Schloss to Texas

[StateDawg44]

Rough few days for Aggie

[BuckyIsAB****]

Well they know how good lemon looks in maroon come get him

[StarkVegasSteve]

Be interesting to see the dominos fall on this one. I could see Tim Corbin, Kevin O’Sullivan, and Wes Johnson all getting calls. Definitely would not be surprised to see Lemonis name thrown in the mix, but he would be a ways down the list.

My money would be on Corbin right now.

[SaintDawg]

Lemonis needs to get on the horn and go get some of that pitching. If they dont all leave with Schloss for TX.

[Pinto]

Lemonis was granted permission to talk to A&M today and took a call today to gauge interest on both sides. There is some.

[msstate7]

Lemonis was granted permission to talk to A&M today and took a call today to gauge interest on both sides. There is some.

Assuming he could live in that weird place, he probably should. aTm will back up trucks full of money to the baseball program to try and beat Texas now

[Coach34]

That rivalry just went up a huge notch.

Hope working for your best friend works out Schloss.

A&M is loaded for next year. let the poaching begin

[chef dixon]

Schloss is and always has been a dick head

[Dawgface]

Lemonis was granted permission to talk to A&M today and took a call today to gauge interest on both sides. There is some.

Don't tease us like this.

[Ranchdawg]

Just wow! TAM just lost in a big way. Could y?all imagine the hate if we made to the finals in the College World Series and just days afterwards Ole Miss came in and stole our coach. I know it will not happen. But it would be off the charts hate.

I guess money ?just means more? in today?s world. Pardon the pun!

I guess we should be glad he didn?t come here only to leave to Texas.

[BigDawg81]

Lemonis to Texas A&M

[bigbub50]

What is the story on “I left my family to come to Texas AM”? Did they just refuse to go with him?

[Coach34]

What is the story on “I left my family to come to Texas AM”? Did they just refuse to go with him?

supposedly one of the reasons he left TCU was because of some shenanigans by him and his wife (she may be his ex-wife now I believe which would be why they didnt move too)

[DawgFromOxford]

Rough few days for Aggie

Schloss lost the CWS on purpose. Couldn?t have A&M winning it all while he was working for the horns***

[WinningIsRelentless]

We dodged a bullet here in 2019

[SpaceBully]

Just wow! TAM just lost in a big way. Could y?all imagine the hate if we made to the finals in the College World Series and just days afterwards Ole Miss came in and stole our coach. I know it will not happen. But it would be off the charts hate.

I guess money ?just means more? in today?s world. Pardon the pun!

I guess we should be glad he didn?t come here only to leave to Texas.

That rivalry just got really spicey.

[TheLostDawg]

We dodged a bullet here in 2019

I guess that Cohen really is the smartest guy in the room. If only he directed those smarts and got our nil going***

[Todd4State]

Be interesting to see the dominos fall on this one. I could see Tim Corbin, Kevin O’Sullivan, and Wes Johnson all getting calls. Definitely would not be surprised to see Lemonis name thrown in the mix, but he would be a ways down the list.

My money would be on Corbin right now.

I'm not sure why A&M would want Corbin as old as he is?

[Todd4State]

What is the story on “I left my family to come to Texas AM”? Did they just refuse to go with him?

Well that's definitely one way to look at it for sure. LOL.

[Todd4State]

supposedly one of the reasons he left TCU was because of some shenanigans by him and his wife (she may be his ex-wife now I believe which would be why they didnt move too)

There were definitely some rumors about Schlossnagle having some similar issues to Cann and that being part of the reason why we didn't hire him.

From what I heard basically TCU's AD forced him to either resign while we were still playing in Omaha or commit to the TCU job. And so Schloss basically tried to force Cohen to announce him as the HC while we were still in Omaha and then Cohen said no and moved on to McDonnell who didn't want our job and then recommended Lemonis.

[sandjunky]

Word on street is it?s been a done deal since April and he?d been actively recruiting for Texas rather than AM

I guess it can be kept quiet when ever assistant is going with you

[StarkVegasSteve]

Word on street is it?s been a done deal since April and he?d been actively recruiting for Texas rather than AM

I guess it can be kept quiet when ever assistant is going with you

So you are telling me that he and all his assts were recruiting for Texas since mid April and NO ONE said a thing or spilled the beans??? Hell, screw coaching Texas, he and his staff need to run the CIA.

[CaptainObvious]

Yeah. I bet that street runs right down the middle of College Station, Tx. No way thst was happening!

[EdwardDrayton]

Must be nice to be affiliated with schools that actually can demonstrate home run coaching hires.

[sandjunky]

So you are telling me that he and all his assts were recruiting for Texas since mid April and NO ONE said a thing or spilled the beans??? Hell, screw coaching Texas, he and his staff need to run the CIA.
Not recruiting to TU since April but since CWS started was actively recruiting to TU

[StarkVegasSteve]

Not recruiting to TU since April but since CWS started was actively recruiting to TU

Yep. Just listened to Billy Liucci and he would be one to know. Said basically that they have known since April that Schloss was actively negotiating with Texas and Del Conte because he would never shoot down the rumors. Just absolutely insane. That guy is a slimeball. He would have been Mullen 2.0 with trying to leave if we had hired him.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Texas is going to wreck the SEC, countdown to the Apocalypse is 8 years and they are not even wearing SEC patches on their uniforms yet.

[Offshore Dawg]

Texas is going to wreck the SEC, countdown to the Apocalypse is 8 years and they are not even wearing SEC patches on their uniforms yet.

It should be interesting watching how the SEC "big Boys" deal with Texas trying to run the conference.

[StateDawg44]

Must be nice to be affiliated with schools that actually can demonstrate home run coaching hires.

You don't enjoy pipedream recruiting convo's that were never going to pan out because our current coach can't recruit?

Or being told we need to just accept it and settle for Lemonis because we aren't an attractive place to coach?

[Coach34]

Must be nice to be affiliated with schools that actually can demonstrate home run coaching hires.

State of Mississippi lawmakers made sure that would never be us in 1878 when they put the campus in the middle of nowhere Mississippi

[Coach34]

You don't enjoy pipedream recruiting convo's that were never going to pan out because our current coach can't recruit?

Or being told we need to just accept it and settle for Lemonis because we aren't an attractive place to coach?

You guys can pout and everything- but baseball changed in 2022 when the portal/NIL/easy transfers all took hold. We dont offer anything really Kentucky and others have now. We did for years but that 40 year advantage was wasted with only 1 title- won by Lemon.

We can hire another coach and frankly I hope we do next June. Many of you will then figure out not much will change and we will still be in about the same place in the SEC. Middle of the pack with a chance to win a title every 5 years or so

[Coach34]

And middle of the pack SEC is not a bad place to be in baseball. Adding OU and Texas makes the SEC a league with 15 teams competing to host every year. We have never seen anything like this in history. Nobody is dominating the SEC. Tenn has been damn good lately- but they still have only 1 title- just like we do. 6 different Nattys the last 7 years.

But it will make being Top 5 in the SEC hard to do every year

[Santiago]

You guys can pout and everything- but baseball changed in 2022 when the portal/NIL/easy transfers all took hold. We dont offer anything really Kentucky and others have now. We did for years but that 40 year advantage was wasted with only 1 title- won by Lemon.

We can hire another coach and frankly I hope we do next June. Many of you will then figure out not much will change and we will still be in about the same place in the SEC. Middle of the pack with a chance to win a title every 5 years or so


This is not true. We offered last season and this season some nice NIL offers to players and we were turned down. That is where our program is at now.
NIL is not the problem right now.
With all due respect, and I enjoy your posts, I just disagree with this from what I know.

[EdwardDrayton]

State of Mississippi lawmakers made sure that would never be us in 1878 when they put the campus in the middle of nowhere Mississippi

Gospel truth. And we have two too many state schools.

[Coach34]

This is not true. We offered last season and this season some nice NIL offers to players and we were turned down. That is where our program is at now.
NIL is not the problem right now.
With all due respect, and I enjoy your posts, I just disagree with this from what I know.

But these guys are getting some nice NIL offers from other schools too. And you dont go to StarkVegas when you can go to nicer cities and such. Kids with money in their pocket dont want to be in small towns- especially young people. They want to go and do things.

200K to go play in Athens, Georgia or 250K to play in StarkVegas???? Most would choose Athens

[Santiago]

But these guys are getting some nice NIL offers from other schools too. And you dont go to StarkVegas when you can go to nicer cities and such. Kids with money in their pocket dont want to be in small towns- especially young people. They want to go and do things.

200K to go play in Athens, Georgia or 250K to play in StarkVegas???? Most would choose Athens

We had some recruits turn us down and he had the best offer. It may be the city, but I think if a Vitello type or dynamic coach was here, then that we have a different outcome.

[Quaoarsking]

But these guys are getting some nice NIL offers from other schools too. And you dont go to StarkVegas when you can go to nicer cities and such. Kids with money in their pocket dont want to be in small towns- especially young people. They want to go and do things.

200K to go play in Athens, Georgia or 250K to play in StarkVegas???? Most would choose Athens

Come on, maybe Athens over Starkville is worth 5K to some people, but not 50K unless you're already too rich to care.

[Commercecomet24]

Gospel truth. And we have two too many state schools.

Yep, way to many!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Come on, maybe Athens over Starkville is worth 5K to some people, but not 50K unless you're already too rich to care.

If you're giving a kid 200K then he doesn't care about the 50K he misses out on. They will chose Athens 10 times out of 10. Now if we offered 400K to their 100K then it might be a different story. I think some of y'all are still thinking like Mississippi St fans. To us, Starkville is great. But to the outside, Starkville is a sleepy college town.

[TStationDawg]

If you're giving a kid 200K then he doesn't care about the 50K he misses out on. They will chose Athens 10 times out of 10. Now if we offered 400K to their 100K then it might be a different story. I think some of y'all are still thinking like Mississippi St fans. To us, Starkville is great. But to the outside, Starkville is a sleepy college town.

meh....MANY (but not all) baseball kids are different. I know plenty here in Nashville HATE the town, the SCHOOL and social scene at Vandy- but they love Scott Brown and his track record....we'll see if Parker pays off this soon or not, and yeah Starkville being small might hurt us with a few, but if we're competitive with the $, the Dude, tradition and fan support along with a competent staff that can develop players, can overcome that more times than not.

[StateDawg44]

If a Vitello type or dynamic coach was here, then we have a different outcome.

This sums it up. Not saying we would all of a sudden rule the portal by any means but Lemonis and his culture aren't the deciding factor for the small victories we have had.

[Santiago]

This sums it up. Not saying we would all of a sudden rule the portal by any means but Lemonis and his culture aren't the deciding factor for the small victories we have had.

We run the Citadel ***

[StarkVegasSteve]

meh....MANY (but not all) baseball kids are different. I know plenty here in Nashville HATE the town, the SCHOOL and social scene at Vandy- but they love Scott Brown and his track record....we'll see if Parker pays off this soon or not, and yeah Starkville being small might hurt us with a few, but if we're competitive with the $, the Dude, tradition and fan support along with a competent staff that can develop players, can overcome that more times than not.

They may care about all that after they are here, but the stadium and town are empty for their visits. Those kids may HATE the town after they get there, but I'd rather have that town to recruit off of than Starkville any day of the week.

[Pancho]

with the town simply being what it is in attracting talent it just further necessitates the need for a HC with a vibrant personality. it is what it is

[StarkVegasSteve]

with the town simply being what it is in attracting talent it just further necessitates the need for a HC with a vibrant personality. it is what it is

There's probably some truth in that, but how many vibrant personalities do you know in college baseball? I can name 3, maybe 4.

[smootness]

But these guys are getting some nice NIL offers from other schools too. And you dont go to StarkVegas when you can go to nicer cities and such. Kids with money in their pocket dont want to be in small towns- especially young people. They want to go and do things.

200K to go play in Athens, Georgia or 250K to play in StarkVegas???? Most would choose Athens

Then why would that player have chosen Starkville before NIL?

You are arguing NIL changed everything and then your rationale is that it is because of the city and campus.

[Coach34]

Then why would that player have chosen Starkville before NIL?.

Because before NIL- playing at State was greater than playing at Kentucky. Baseball has only 11.7 schollys and players/families had to pay out of pocket. Thats all out the window now. Baseball parents and players had to weigh cost of education into it and the Mississippi schools were cheaper. Our advantage is gone now. We also see it hurting Vandy and Mississippi now in realtime

Rosters are larger now
Players are getting paid
Players can now get into the draft at age 21 which is killing us this year with Dirtbag and Jordan- imagine having those 2 back for Y3?

Baseball changed in 2022 and we are seeing it now

[Coach34]

meh....MANY (but not all) baseball kids are different. I know plenty here in Nashville HATE the town, the SCHOOL and social scene at Vandy- but they love Scott Brown and his track record....we'll see if Parker pays off this soon or not, and yeah Starkville being small might hurt us with a few, but if we're competitive with the $, the Dude, tradition and fan support along with a competent staff that can develop players, can overcome that more times than not.

I have yet to meet anybody thats hates Nashville and have multiple friends that have moved there. Comparing that to StarkVegas is ridiculous. Think back to being that age- bars/concerts/and other fun shit. Now compare the two.

National acts have concerts in Nashville- compare that to the State amphitheater? But even with that- now with pay that has taken Vandy's advantage they had. Not every kid wants the grind of a Vandy education when they can get paid as well somewhere else

[Coach34]

and to push it even farther- We got Tanner Allen because LSU wasnt going to give much at all in scholly money. In today's college baseball- Tanner Allen would be purple and gold.

This is what our fans havent grasped yet

[SPMT]

and to push it even farther- We got Tanner Allen because LSU wasnt going to give much at all in scholly money. In today's college baseball- Tanner Allen would be purple and gold.

I don?t know that I can accept that at face value.

I LSU wouldn?t give him enough ecology money, why would they give him more NIL money than we would?

Not being a dick but the logic doesn?t compute.

[Coach34]

I don?t know that I can accept that at face value.

I LSU wouldn?t give him enough ecology money, why would they give him more NIL money than we would?

Not being a dick but the logic doesn?t compute.

All top recruits get some type of NIL now- so at the very least they get school paid for. LSU wasnt going to pay very much for him as he was down the line but we were willing to give him more of a scholly to help offset costs for his parents. Plus- its cheaper to go to State than LSU. Today? A Tanner Allen doesnt pay a dime to go to LSU, Tenn, A&M, UPig, etc

[Schultzy]

So Schloss has been recruiting kids to the longhorns since SEC tourney with burner phones?

[Coach34]

thats the rumor

[Todd4State]

So Schloss has been recruiting kids to the longhorns since SEC tourney with burner phones?

Yeah. It's going to get pretty messy I imagine. Texas A&M will likely turn them in for tampering is what I suspect will happen.

Even if they don't it's a really bad look because Texas was essentially looking for a coach before they even fired their coach and had postseason in play on the line.

I think Texas A&M going deep in the postseason plus July coming up really complicated this situation. Which is ironically what complicated things when we tried to hire Schlossnagle.

[Todd4State]

There is going to be a lot of fallout from this. A&M will probably overspend on someone to try to make amends. They're going to go after guys like O'Sullivan and Corbin but even if they get a guy like Cliff Godwin it's going to cause a lot of ripples in the industry.

I do seriously wonder if they go after Lemonis if they miss on O'Sullivan, Corbin, and Mingione?

[Santiago]

There is going to be a lot of fallout from this. A&M will probably overspend on someone to try to make amends. They're going to go after guys like O'Sullivan and Corbin but even if they get a guy like Cliff Godwin it's going to cause a lot of ripples in the industry.

I do seriously wonder if they go after Lemonis if they miss on O'Sullivan, Corbin, and Mingione?

I would think it does not get past Mingione

[BrunswickDawg]

thats the rumor

Wasn't it rumored - and I think confirmed by a couple of reliable posters here - that Schloss was reaching out and telling our recruits he was coming to MSU during the '18 postseason?

[StarkVegasSteve]

There is going to be a lot of fallout from this. A&M will probably overspend on someone to try to make amends. They're going to go after guys like O'Sullivan and Corbin but even if they get a guy like Cliff Godwin it's going to cause a lot of ripples in the industry.

I do seriously wonder if they go after Lemonis if they miss on O'Sullivan, Corbin, and Mingione?

I think Lemonis is probably in that 3rd grouping. From what I've gathered and heard it goes:

1st Group: Corbin, O'Sullivan

2nd Group: Bakich, Savage

3rd Group: Mingione, Lemonis, Vaughn, Walter, Godwin, Sarloos

[StarkVegasSteve]

Wasn't it rumored - and I think confirmed by a couple of reliable posters here - that Schloss was reaching out and telling our recruits he was coming to MSU during the '18 postseason?

Yep. Same thing. That story is actually crazy. It's damn near as crazy as this one. Schloss is slimy as it gets. He would've won, and probably big, but would've left us high and dry at the first opportunity.

[Santiago]

Yep. Same thing. That story is actually crazy. It's damn near as crazy as this one. Schloss is slimy as it gets. He would've won, and probably big, but would've left us high and dry at the first opportunity.

Savage, to me, seems the guy that might move up.
Corbin is bringing in a nice check at a school that does not really care about sports.

[TStationDawg]

They may care about all that after they are here, but the stadium and town are empty for their visits. Those kids may HATE the town after they get there, but I'd rather have that town to recruit off of than Starkville any day of the week.

And after they get to Nashville, the stadium is empty when they play..... works both ways is all I'm saying. Not all 18 year old players want the glitz/glam...

[TStationDawg]

I have yet to meet anybody thats hates Nashville and have multiple friends that have moved there. Comparing that to StarkVegas is ridiculous. Think back to being that age- bars/concerts/and other fun shit. Now compare the two.

National acts have concerts in Nashville- compare that to the State amphitheater? But even with that- now with pay that has taken Vandy's advantage they had. Not every kid wants the grind of a Vandy education when they can get paid as well somewhere else

I'm not comparing Nashville and Starkville. I grew up in NE MS. I went college in Nashville. I came up here for music industry so yeah, for me...homerun and no brainer. But I've been here for 20+ years now so let me be your first, what's its become and continues to become sucks. But that's a whole other convo. I personally know 4 high profile current and former Vandy players. 2 of them from middle TN. They HATE the fan base, the school itself and going to college on West End aint for everyone. Baseball stuff there, they love. It's not all about Nashville like it was even 10 years ago. For some kids it will be sure, I'm just saying there are plenty of talented kids we could sell Starkville on being all about baseball WITH the proper coach and staff.

[DownwardDawg]

I have yet to meet anybody thats hates Nashville and have multiple friends that have moved there. Comparing that to StarkVegas is ridiculous. Think back to being that age- bars/concerts/and other fun shit. Now compare the two.

National acts have concerts in Nashville- compare that to the State amphitheater? But even with that- now with pay that has taken Vandy's advantage they had. Not every kid wants the grind of a Vandy education when they can get paid as well somewhere else

I agree with you 100% on this one. I'm 57 and live in the Nashville area. Looking to head back home to Mississippi because of family and missing the simple life. However, there is no comparison in Starkville and Nashville especially for a young person in their 20's. It's an absolutely beautiful area to live in especially if you don't live in Nashville itself. There's so much to do and see that it gets overwhelming at times figuring out where to take the family when they're here. Best hunting and fishing I've ever experienced. Hiking to waterfalls with the wife never gets old. Yeah, recruiting should be a million times easier at Vanderbilt for baseball.

[TStationDawg]

I agree with you 100% on this one. I'm 57 and live in the Nashville area. Looking to head back home to Mississippi because of family and missing the simple life. However, there is no comparison in Starkville and Nashville especially for a young person in their 20's. It's an absolutely beautiful area to live in especially if you don't live in Nashville itself. There's so much to do and see that it gets overwhelming at times figuring out where to take the family when they're here. Best hunting and fishing I've ever experienced. Hiking to waterfalls with the wife never gets old. Yeah, recruiting should be a million times easier at Vanderbilt for baseball.

Huh- and guess where Dear Ole' Vandy is????? These kids won't be liviing in Oak Hill, Brentwood or Williamson county.

I never said its a million times easier. I implied its not impossible to beat them in a recruiting battle. That's quite a difference.

[DownwardDawg]

Huh- and guess where Dear Ole' Vandy is????? These kids won't be liviing in Oak Hill, Brentwood or Williamson county.

I never said its a million times easier. I implied its not impossible to beat them in a recruiting battle. That's quite a difference.
I was replying to Coach 34 just commenting on the town differences. I'm quite aware where Vandy is. Talking more about what all it offers. Many students live in apartments outside of the city. You don't have to move down the Franklin or Thompson Station to be in a much nicer area than downtown. But Vandy is in a nice area, just a little close to some not great areas though.