Texas Baseball

[StarkVegasSteve]

David Pierce out at Texas. I would expect them to offer Vitello the naming rights to the damn stadium for him to agree. Tennessee and Texas are about to be in a bidding war for him. Win or Lose tonight, he will be the highest paid college baseball coach next week.

[Santiago]

I read somewhere also that Schloss and the TX AD were friends.
At the very least, agents are about to get to work.

Lock. Down... Lemonis ***

[StarkVegasSteve]

I read somewhere also that Schloss and the TX AD were friends.
At the very least, agents are about to get to work.

Lock. Down... Lemonis ***

Schloss and O’Sullivan are also two names that will be mentioned. If it gets past Vitello, which I ultimately think it will, I could see them ending up with O’Sullivan. If he was going to leave, now would be the time. Then again, it could be like when LSU missed on Vitello and Bianco, they pivoted to Jay Johnson. Maybe Texas pivots to Wes Johnson.

[Santiago]

The timing of it being today almost leads to think that Vitello and/or Schloss told them no distractions last week.
Or TX spent last week in talks with candidate interest before announcing today.

[StarkVegasSteve]

The timing of it being today almost leads to think that Vitello and/or Schloss told them no distractions last week.
Or TX spent last week in talks with candidate interest before announcing today.

I think part of it is Texas wanting some national mentions tonight on the broadcast. The other part of this is that A&M is their biggest rival, they want to steal some thunder from them on the biggest night in their program history.

[Coach34]

When was the last time a baseball HC at a top program left to go to another school?

It may happen but it will surprise. Vitello, Sully, Schloss are already among the highest paid in the country. What can they do at Texas they cant do at their current jobs?

A&M has millions committed to upgrade Bluebell. Tenn has millions committed to upgrade things at Tenn. Fla just re-did their stadium and facilities.

[MStateDawg]

I think part of it is Texas wanting some national mentions tonight on the broadcast. The other part of this is that A&M is their biggest rival, they want to steal some thunder from them on the biggest night in their program history.

Texas couldnt have know there would be a game 3. If they were doing it to distract from A&M, they would have announced a day or 2 earlier. I think they're going after one of the 2 coaches in the finals.

[The Federalist Engineer]

David Pierce out at Texas. I would expect them to offer Vitello the naming rights to the damn stadium for him to agree. Tennessee and Texas are about to be in a bidding war for him. Win or Lose tonight, he will be the highest paid college baseball coach next week.

Vitello to Texas makes total sense. The devil team steals another coach because people love gourmet tacos and cowboy dance clubs.

I bet they already got Vitello, that's why the went ahead and fired Pierce.

[The Federalist Engineer]

When was the last time a baseball HC at a top program left to go to another school?

It may happen but it will surprise. Vitello, Sully, Schloss are already among the highest paid in the country. What can they do at Texas they cant do at their current jobs?

A&M has millions committed to upgrade Bluebell. Tenn has millions committed to upgrade things at Tenn. Fla just re-did their stadium and facilities.

Baseball arms race is heating up, people used to never fire assistants mid-season. Welcome to modern SEC baseball, it's war.

Texas A&M being in the National Championship is probably eating a hole in the stomach of Texas Longhorn people. 30 years ago, few would care.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Vitello to Texas makes total sense. The devil team steals another coach because people love gourmet tacos and cowboy dance clubs.

I bet they already got Vitello, that's why the went ahead and fired Pierce.

A lot seem to think it's the other way around and they actually have Schloss. I mean he's been known to be amiable to moving and if Texas doubles his salary.......

I definitely think Vitello has the right of first refusal though. They'd be stupid to not throw 3 mil at him just to see.

[HoopsDawg]

When was the last time a baseball HC at a top program left to go to another school?

It may happen but it will surprise. Vitello, Sully, Schloss are already among the highest paid in the country. What can they do at Texas they cant do at their current jobs?

A&M has millions committed to upgrade Bluebell. Tenn has millions committed to upgrade things at Tenn. Fla just re-did their stadium and facilities.

TCU to A&M
Arizona to LSU
Michigan to Clemson
Notre Dame to FSU

All those moves make sense though.

[DawgFromOxford]

I read somewhere also that Schloss and the TX AD were friends.
At the very least, agents are about to get PAID.

Lock. Down... Lemonis ***

FIFY

[StarkVegasSteve]

TCU to A&M
Arizona to LSU
Michigan to Clemson
Notre Dame to FSU

All those moves make sense though.

The difference is Texas will moneywhip a program just to do it. I mean look at the Schaefer thing....women's basketball loses probably 2-3 mil a year there and they pay Schaefer 2 mil a year to not even make a Final 4. They'd pay Schloss or Vitello 3 mil to actually get results and NOT lose 2-3 mil. Hell they'd pay them 4 if they thought that would get it done. They have people who cut 10 million dollar checks like you or I cut 100 dollar checks

[Coach34]

TCU to A&M
Arizona to LSU
Michigan to Clemson
Notre Dame to FSU

All those moves make sense though.

All those moves are a step up tho. Going to Texas would be a lateral move

[Santiago]

A lot seem to think it's the other way around and they actually have Schloss. I mean he's been known to be amiable to moving and if Texas doubles his salary.......

I definitely think Vitello has the right of first refusal though. They'd be stupid to not throw 3 mil at him just to see.

Schloss and Vitello are bigger city type guys. Austin has that appeal to both.

[The Federalist Engineer]

A lot seem to think it's the other way around and they actually have Schloss. I mean he's been known to be amiable to moving and if Texas doubles his salary.......

I definitely think Vitello has the right of first refusal though. They'd be stupid to not throw 3 mil at him just to see.

I'm biased to my hopes. I want to see Tennessee go Campbell Camel.

I think this beneficial to the entire SEC. I actually don't think Vitello can run Texas like he does Tennessee.

Also Schloss to Austin, is this dude so slimy to quit A&M for Austin? That's like switching teams during Gettysburg or Waterloo. When was the last time such a thing happened in American sports. Seems you damning yourself. I guess Dennis Francione did this to Alabama to join Texas A&M but that was outr? State and outre Conference, so less slimy.

[BrunswickDawg]

I'm biased to my hopes. I want to see Tennessee go Campbell Camel.

I think this beneficial to the entire SEC. I actually don't think Vitello can run Texas like he does Tennessee.

Also Schloss to Austin, is this dude so slimy to quit A&M for Austin? That's like switching teams during Gettysburg or Waterloo. When was the last time such a thing happened in American sports. Seems you damning yourself. I guess Dennis Francione did this to Alabama to join Texas A&M but that was outr? State and outre Conference, so less slimy.

Dudy Noble knows what hell is like - he coached at Ole Miss.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

All those moves are a step up tho. Going to Texas would be a lateral move

Agreed. These big name guys already have great facilities, NIL, assistant money, recruiting, boosters in reasonable levels of check (a coach that wins will have more support than a new coach that hasn't won yet) and a winning culture set up.

Only thing Texas can offer is 1) more cash (though the schools the coaches are at now can also counter offer) and 2) a fresh start. Often, the "fresh start" is when the HC is trying to outrun major issues he created, like Jimbo when he left FSU who was outrunning awful OL recruiting

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'm biased to my hopes. I want to see Tennessee go Campbell Camel.

I think this beneficial to the entire SEC. I actually don't think Vitello can run Texas like he does Tennessee.

Also Schloss to Austin, is this dude so slimy to quit A&M for Austin? That's like switching teams during Gettysburg or Waterloo. When was the last time such a thing happened in American sports. Seems you damning yourself. I guess Dennis Francione did this to Alabama to join Texas A&M but that was outr? State and outre Conference, so less slimy.

Tommy "Take Me Out of Here In A Pinebox" Tuberville would like a word

[Activated Alpha]

All those moves are a step up tho. Going to Texas would be a lateral move

Can you explain why TN baseball to Texas is a lateral move? I can maybe see ATM because of resources and facilities, but definitely not TN

[CaptainObvious]

All those moves are a step up tho. Going to Texas would be a lateral move

Is State to Texas a step up?

Hey Texas! Coach Lemonis on line 1!

[KOdawg1]

From a resource and history standpoint, Texas is a step up from Tennessee. Texas with the right coach can be a problem. Hell, they just fired a guy who went to the CWS 3 times in 7 years.

[Ranchdawg]

Let me assure y’all baseball is a very BIG thing to University of Texas at Austin. It may not be big as football but it is very important. Sure their fan base doesn’t show up as much as some other SEC schools (it’s still weird to say/type University of Texas at Austin is a part of the SEC). My neice’s husband played baseball for the University of Texas at Austin. He was born and raised in the state of Texas.

I call it the Univ. of Texas at Austin because it really gets under their skin.

[CaptainObvious]

We call UT-Arlington the University of Texas @ The Airport!

[Ranchdawg]

We call UT-Arlington the University of Texas @ The Airport!

Hahahaha!

[Santiago]

Agreed. These big name guys already have great facilities, NIL, assistant money, recruiting, boosters in reasonable levels of check (a coach that wins will have more support than a new coach that hasn't won yet) and a winning culture set up.

Only thing Texas can offer is 1) more cash (though the schools the coaches are at now can also counter offer) and 2) a fresh start. Often, the "fresh start" is when the HC is trying to outrun major issues he created, like Jimbo when he left FSU who was outrunning awful OL recruiting

Add this:
3. More than half of that talent rich state of TX grow up wanting to play for the longhorns. And that is a very large pool of talent already wanting to play there. TN is having to recruit all over the place. In TX you just drive up and down I-35 corridor, and to Houston mostly.

[Coach34]

Can you explain why TN baseball to Texas is a lateral move? I can maybe see ATM because of resources and facilities, but definitely not TN

Tenn is the winningest program in college baseball the last 5 years. He competes for Omaha every year there. They have created a rowdy fun atmosphere and they are building him everything he wants. There’s nothing Texas can give him that Tenn cant

[Ranchdawg]

Add this:
3. More than half of that talent rich state of TX grow up wanting to play for the longhorns. And that is a very large pool of talent already wanting to play there. TN is having to recruit all over the place. In TX you just drive up and down I-35 corridor, and to Houston mostly.

Texas is crazy with the amount of talent they have. My neice's husband that played baseball at Univ. of Texas at Austin exhausted his eligibility the year before they won their last Natty in baseball. He had friend/teammate that won Tx state high school championship and got a ring, then went to jr. college in Tx and won a National Jr. College championship and got another ring, then went to Univ. Texas at Austin won the College World Series and got another ring. Crazy! Played in the Minor leagues for couple of years then hung it up.

Niece and her husband have brought their 12yr old son to MSU from Texas to participate in several camps under Lemonis. The kid will be playing D-1 baseball someday. The kids grandparents graduated from MSU.

[Ranchdawg]

Tenn is the winningest program in college baseball the last 5 years. He competes for Omaha every year there. They have created a rowdy fun atmosphere and they are building him everything he wants. There’s nothing Texas can give him that Tenn cant

I agree! But one thing that Texas has that Tennessee doesn’t is all that high school talent dying to play ball for the Univ. of Texas at Austin.

Sorta like the old Polk story. Polk said one time that he was talking to a college coach in California(I believe Pepperdine) and the coach said that he was about to go on recruiting trip and have to drive an hour to see 6 high school prospects at different schools. Polk told the coach if he drove a hour from Starkville he would be Ackerman, Ms. and no high school prospects.

I know times have changed but still you have to have the horses in the barn to win the race. And Texas has a zillion of them.

[Coach34]

It’s hard for me to believe he will feel like he can recruit better at Texas when he has 5 guys in his lineup with 20 or more HR’s. We’ll see

[DawgFromOxford]

It’s hard for me to believe he will feel like he can recruit better at Texas when he has 5 guys in his lineup with 20 or more HR’s. We’ll see

Maybe not better but maybe it?s easier, idk? But I agree hard to see him moving unless he just wants to be in Austin wearing burnt orange instead of Knoxville in bright orange. Don?t see Texas paying him money that TN wouldn?t at least match or get close to.

Have to think Texas has their guy lined up though before letting Pierce go this long after their season ended.

[Homedawg]

It’s hard for me to believe he will feel like he can recruit better at Texas when he has 5 guys in his lineup with 20 or more HR’s. We’ll see

And had no interest in the lsu job. Guess I won't be floored either way. But more surprised if he took it honestly why leave ??

[Santiago]

It?s hard for me to believe he will feel like he can recruit better at Texas when he has 5 guys in his lineup with 20 or more HR?s. We?ll see

If he is coaching in TX, he can recruit those kids within a 2 hour radius of Austin.
No need to be traveling all over to other states like he has to at TN. At some point that will become a grind, and sounds like it already has for him.

[mparkerfd20]

If you think TN is gonna let Vitello go to Texas after he wins tonight you've lost your damn mind. I can't stand the son of a bitch but he's fixing to be the Saban of college baseball at TN for years to come. He can name his price there.

[Santiago]

If you think TN is gonna let Vitello go to Texas after he wins tonight you've lost your damn mind. I can't stand the son of a bitch but he's fixing to be the Saban of college baseball at TN for years to come. He can name his price there.

TN cannot out bid TX, unless it gets to a silly point.
TX has more money than anyone can imagine. TN though will be forced to pay some silly money to Vitello.

That said, I hear TX is looking more for a "CEO COACH". They like our business model approach to college baseball ***

[EdwardDrayton]

It’s hard for me to believe he will feel like he can recruit better at Texas when he has 5 guys in his lineup with 20 or more HR’s. We’ll see

Juice bars travel well

[CaptainObvious]

TN cannot out bid TX, unless it gets to a silly point.
TX has more money than anyone can imagine. TN though will be forced to pay some silly money to Vitello.

That said, I hear TX is looking more for a "CEO COACH". They like our business model approach to college baseball ***

Boy do I have a guy for them!****

[SPMT]

I agree! But one thing that Texas has that Tennessee doesn’t is all that high school talent dying to play ball for the Univ. of Texas at Austin.

Sorta like the old Polk story. Polk said one time that he was talking to a college coach in California(I believe Pepperdine) and the coach said that he was about to go on recruiting trip and have to drive an hour to see 6 high school prospects at different schools. Polk told the coach if he drove a hour from Starkville he would be Ackerman, Ms. and no high school prospects.

I know times have changed but still you have to have the horses in the barn to win the race. And Texas has a zillion of them.

There aren?t many kids that wouldn?t go play for Vitello. Nowhere in the country. Not Texas or California etc.

He?s all in 100% unless he gets married and has kids.

[TheLostDawg]

If he is coaching in TX, he can recruit those kids within a 2 hour radius of Austin.
No need to be traveling all over to other states like he has to at TN. At some point that will become a grind, and sounds like it already has for him.

Wait I thought yall said the HC doesn't do that, just goes to tournaments. That's what the assistance are for. ***

[Santiago]

Wait I thought yall said the HC doesn't do that, just goes to tournaments. That's what the assistance are for. ***

I hear ya. I am not in that particular "yall" category that was defending Lemonis for laziness.
It is interesting to hear how hard Vitello recruits, and travels and hear him talk about all the hotels he has stayed on the road evaluating players. Then we read here how its ok Lemonis doesn't do it because he is a CEO coach.

It is funny hearing people say that a coach that has 2 or 3 assistants under him is a "CEO".

[Santiago]

Tenn is the winningest program in college baseball the last 5 years. He competes for Omaha every year there. They have created a rowdy fun atmosphere and they are building him everything he wants. There?s nothing Texas can give him that Tenn cant

What about all the historical records of the program and what the TN fanbase should expect historically? Does it apply to them as it did to MSU fans wanting a change?

[Coach34]

What about all the historical records of the program and what the TN fanbase should expect historically? Does it apply to them as it did to MSU fans wanting a change?

NIL and the Portal have basically eliminated history. Society today is about right now