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preachermatt83
06-20-2024, 01:59 PM
It really seems like there?s very little hype around our program right now as far as the fan base is concerned. I personally think we have a 6 win team and I feel like Lebby was a very good hire. Time will tell but I can see him having us on a similar trajectory as Mullen did. Hoping to see a little more excitement as football season approaches. Just my two cents.

KOdawg1
06-20-2024, 02:00 PM
If and when the offense is good, then people will get excited.

Quaoarsking
06-20-2024, 02:06 PM
Beat Arizona in week 2 and we'll start getting hyped.

Then beat Florida in week 4 and we'll be at full hype.

TrapGame
06-20-2024, 02:10 PM
When we beat Florida the hype machine will go into overdrive. This offense is going to be fun to watch. Lebby is a better version of Mullen.

DawgFromOxford
06-20-2024, 02:34 PM
I'm excited to see what Lebby brings come fall. But knowing we are probably a 5-7 win team doesn't do a whole lot for me during the off season (I'd definitely be happy with a 6+ win season). Mix that with I don't have a clue who is on the football team any more as there's too many moving pieces for me to care to keep up with.

Winning cures all. Win some big time games consistently and the excitement from the fanbase will be there

Goldendawg
06-20-2024, 02:53 PM
We aren't the only team that is going to have to turn a roster containing 40 or so portal players into a team in a very short time. This is the new college football, (whether we like it or not). They might want to start selling those $5 game programs again.*** Looks like you're going to need a program to know the players every year. The coaches that can turnover the roster and build a team year to year will be the successes. 4-0 OCC with 2 to 3 SEC wins. Hail State!

preachermatt83
06-20-2024, 03:25 PM
Going 6-6 would be a win for Lebby in year 1

Walkerhill
06-20-2024, 05:11 PM
If and when the offense is good, then people will get excited.

Lebby looks to be the real deal in terms of recruiting and offensive scheme, but…

Until the defense is even average, people will not get excited.

On paper, we needed an SEC caliber edge rusher and a cornerback to put ourselves in that position this year and didn’t get them. That is why hype is subdued.

But people can see we are in a rebuild and Ole Miss looks to be absolutely loaded so excitement is subdued for now.

If Shapen shows out and it turns out Lebby knows something about Huzler and Barnes the rest of the world didn’t and/or Lebby’s speed, strength and conditioning investments pay off early, well then.

PGHBulldogBG
06-20-2024, 05:47 PM
If Lebby 2024 resembles a Mullen 2009 team and beats Ole Miss to knock them out of the playoff it will get our fans re-excited. If he can do that we are in good shape for the future. I still think we should have done everything possible to hire Clawson but if he can get us to 6-6 this year then he has done a great job

TrapGame
06-20-2024, 05:55 PM
Lebby looks to be the real deal in terms of recruiting and offensive scheme, but…

Until the defense is even average, people will not get excited.

On paper, we needed an SEC caliber edge rusher and a cornerback to put ourselves in that position this year and didn’t get them. That is why hype is subdued.

But people can see we are in a rebuild and Ole Miss looks to be absolutely loaded so excitement is subdued for now.

If Shapen shows out and it turns out Lebby knows something about Huzler and Barnes the rest of the world didn’t and/or Lebby’s speed, strength and conditioning investments pay off early, well then.

Oklahoma's defense was nothing to write home about last year. They were mediocre. That's not good for a head coach that was supposedly a defensive guru on a national championship team. Oklahoma is gonna miss Lebby. I can't believe that went 10-2 last season with a defense getting gashed on the ground they way they were. But, that mediocre defense got stops when they needed them and got turnovers that Lebby's offense turned into points.

And what is this measuring stick for SEC caliber defenses? Bama and LSU or Mizzou and Tennessee? If we have an average to slightly below average defense we'll be fine. 6 wins is obtainable.

Homedawg
06-20-2024, 07:23 PM
Oklahoma's defense was nothing to write home about last year. They were mediocre. That's not good for a head coach that was supposedly a defensive guru on a national championship team. Oklahoma is gonna miss Lebby. I can't believe that went 10-2 last season with a defense getting gashed on the ground they way they were. But, that mediocre defense got stops when they needed them and got turnovers that Lebby's offense turned into points.

And what is this measuring stick for SEC caliber defenses? Bama and LSU or Mizzou and Tennessee? If we have an average to slightly below average defense we'll be fine. 6 wins is obtainable.

Avg is 8/9. Just can't see it.

maroonmania
06-20-2024, 07:32 PM
When we beat Florida the hype machine will go into overdrive. This offense is going to be fun to watch. Lebby is a better version of Mullen.

Right now Lebby seems to be a Mullen that actually doesn't dislike recruiting.

Leroy Jenkins
06-20-2024, 08:04 PM
I think "hype" is down all across CFB. I don't know why so many smart people can't see they are destroying a great game. When you only keep 20% of the roster year-to-year, it takes some fun out of it for me.

Coach34
06-20-2024, 08:07 PM
Avg is 8/9. Just can't see it.

Yeah. The worry is we'll be 13th or 14th

Cooterpoot
06-20-2024, 09:13 PM
I think "hype" is down all across CFB. I don't know why so many smart people can't see they are destroying a great game. When you only keep 20% of the roster year-to-year, it takes some fun out of it for me.

If we had kept all the dead weight and not brought in talent, we might not win a game this year. I guess that's better for you since you care about the name on back of the jersey? If our fans weren't the sorriest in the SEC, they'd be ecstatic about turning over that roster.
And we kept more than 20 guys by the way.

BuckyIsAB****
06-20-2024, 10:02 PM
I just dont think it will ever be the same. My passion for it was fading with NIL and when Leach died idk if I have even recovered from that. The yacht club made it worse. I think it?s perfectly reasonable for people to not care as much. Because the majority of these kids dont care half as much as you do

BuckyIsAB****
06-20-2024, 10:05 PM
If we had kept all the dead weight and not brought in talent, we might not win a game this year. I guess that's better for you since you care about the name on back of the jersey? If our fans weren't the sorriest in the SEC, they'd be ecstatic about turning over that roster.
And we kept more than 20 guys by the way.

For me it?s not about the name on the back I am 1000000 percent all in for the name on the front. But that doesnt Change the fact this system shits on everything this game was supposed to be about. You cant even pretend anymore that it is

viverlibre
06-20-2024, 10:08 PM
Lebby is a better version of Mullen.

The unknown is will he bring the toughness that Mullen brought.

Todd4State
06-20-2024, 10:28 PM
I think it's a combination of:

1. Scarred from the Two Brother's Yacht Club.

2. Most everyone knowing that this is a rebuilding year.

3. Massive roster turnover. Fans that show up to Eastern Kentucky and see the starting lineup video on the board are going to go "Who the Hell are those guys?"

4. Also it's not really even football season yet. I think it will start to pick up some when the fall gets here.

People are probably wait and see on how much of a rebuild this will be. Hopefully it will be a "feel good" rebuild where we win 7 games and upset someone and go to a bowl instead of "we have a long way to go" 3-9" rebuild.

Todd4State
06-20-2024, 10:29 PM
The unknown is will he bring the toughness that Mullen brought.

I'm not too worried about that. He comes from a family of football coaches at the college level. Plus Selmon being a football guy knows what we need at the head coaching position.

MoreCowbell
06-20-2024, 10:35 PM
I think Lebby was a good hire but he is going to have to completely rebuild it. Roster and culture.

SpaceBully
06-21-2024, 04:32 AM
If and when the offense is good, then people will get excited.
Yeah, then we only get beat by scores like 35-60, 42-59, etc......but people will sho get excited bout that offense! I only see 4-5 wins max......if we're lucky.

Dawgface
06-21-2024, 06:35 AM
I just dont think it will ever be the same. My passion for it was fading with NIL and when Leach died idk if I have even recovered from that. The yacht club made it worse. I think it?s perfectly reasonable for people to not care as much. Because the majority of these kids dont care half as much as you do

Yep. This all day.

Mjoelner34
06-21-2024, 06:48 AM
Yeah, then we only get beat by scores like 35-60, 42-59, etc......but people will sho get excited bout that offense! I only see 4-5 wins max......if we're lucky.

4 or 5 is probably 2 more than we would get if we hadn't changed staffs and flipped the roster.

Pancho
06-21-2024, 06:50 AM
excellent post

Goldendawg
06-21-2024, 09:31 AM
Yeah, then we only get beat by scores like 35-60, 42-59, etc......but people will sho get excited bout that offense! I only see 4-5 wins max......if we're lucky.

We are beyond the point that we should always beat the OOC opponents and if we can't win 2 of the 8 SEC we are indeed a vandy. Other teams are coming off terrible records (both OOC & SEC), and a portal roster flip, not just us. 6-6 floor, Hail State!

preachermatt83
06-21-2024, 10:38 AM
I think "hype" is down all across CFB. I don't know why so many smart people can't see they are destroying a great game. When you only keep 20% of the roster year-to-year, it takes some fun out of it for me.

Absolutely!!!

Leroy Jenkins
06-21-2024, 11:13 AM
If we had kept all the dead weight and not brought in talent, we might not win a game this year. I guess that's better for you since you care about the name on back of the jersey? If our fans weren't the sorriest in the SEC, they'd be ecstatic about turning over that roster.
And we kept more than 20 guys by the way.

Read it again. Then read it again two more times, slowly, so you understand what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote.



ETA: It's a CFB issue not a MSU issue. We are doing much, much better than most due to ESPN welfare money. The problem is we live in a very expensive neighborhood. We are the richest people you know on one side of town, not so much on the other.

was21
06-21-2024, 11:21 AM
Not to be picky but we don't play Arizona this fall.

KOdawg1
06-21-2024, 11:22 AM
Yeah, then we only get beat by scores like 35-60, 42-59, etc......but people will sho get excited bout that offense! I only see 4-5 wins max......if we're lucky.

I'll take a 59-42 loss over what we had last year. Ole Miss lost some games like that in 2020 and it built excitement

Leroy Jenkins
06-21-2024, 11:48 AM
I'll take a 59-42 loss over what we had last year. Ole Miss lost some games like that in 2020 and it built excitement

Offense sells tickets.

Homedawg
06-21-2024, 11:53 AM
Offense sells tickets.

true. But, only to a degree. Tech and ten??? Tony Shell slung it all over the field.

archdog
06-21-2024, 12:11 PM
Wish Arnett would have stayed on as defensive coordinator. No idea who the new guy even is.

BuckyIsAB****
06-21-2024, 07:56 PM
Wish Arnett would have stayed on as defensive coordinator. No idea who the new guy even is.

Not by the end you dont. He was not the Same guy he was in 2020-2022

Cooterpoot
06-21-2024, 09:56 PM
For me it?s not about the name on the back I am 1000000 percent all in for the name on the front. But that doesnt Change the fact this system shits on everything this game was supposed to be about. You cant even pretend anymore that it is

What is supposed to be about? Taking advantage of young athletes for the financial benefit of the school?
It's not 1960.

Cooterpoot
06-21-2024, 09:58 PM
Read it again. Then read it again two more times, slowly, so you understand what I wrote instead of what you think I wrote.



ETA: It's a CFB issue not a MSU issue. We are doing much, much better than most due to ESPN welfare money. The problem is we live in a very expensive neighborhood. We are the richest people you know on one side of town, not so much on the other.

So, nothing has actually changed then because it's always been that way, except now, we're a top 40ish program where our history is far worse.

BuckyIsAB****
06-24-2024, 12:18 PM
What is supposed to be about? Taking advantage of young athletes for the financial benefit of the school?
It's not 1960.

Who tf ever said thats what it was about? I love that line. Bc you will say that and then at the same time will say oh well they were getting it anyways now its just legal. If they were getting it anyways, how were they being financially taken advantage of? They were already getting a better gig than anyone on this board could ever ask for, living every young kids dream. But thanks to a crowd that never played and absolutely never had to coach plus todays society we are here.

Fact of the matter is, it?s the anti personal responsibility and greedy selfish no moral values crowd that got what they wanted in the end. I?ll let y?all figure out who that is. We took the second highest level of the greatest team game on earth and turned it into this.

ArrowDawg
06-24-2024, 10:46 PM
I think it's a combination of:

1. Scarred from the Two Brother's Yacht Club.

2. Most everyone knowing that this is a rebuilding year.

3. Massive roster turnover. Fans that show up to Eastern Kentucky and see the starting lineup video on the board are going to go "Who the Hell are those guys?"

4. Also it's not really even football season yet. I think it will start to pick up some when the fall gets here.

People are probably wait and see on how much of a rebuild this will be. Hopefully it will be a "feel good" rebuild where we win 7 games and upset someone and go to a bowl instead of "we have a long way to go" 3-9" rebuild.

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BeardoMSU
06-25-2024, 12:05 AM
Yeah, then we only get beat by scores like 35-60, 42-59, etc......but people will sho get excited bout that offense! I only see 4-5 wins max......if we're lucky.


https://youtu.be/jQY1gCSeQs0?si=3Cqc1S9Xvy5XyeUd

dawgpound
06-25-2024, 10:23 AM
I think Lebby is off to a great start, but cannot make myself get excited about the prospect of a 6 win season

mckeen
06-25-2024, 10:44 AM
It really seems like there?s very little hype around our program right now as far as the fan base is concerned. I personally think we have a 6 win team and I feel like Lebby was a very good hire. Time will tell but I can see him having us on a similar trajectory as Mullen did. Hoping to see a little more excitement as football season approaches. Just my two cents.

That is the question. It's why the excitement level is muted.

TrapGame
06-25-2024, 10:46 AM
I think Lebby is off to a great start, but cannot make myself get excited about the prospect of a 6 win season

A brand new head coach coming into the SEC and winning 6 games his first year with a virtual rebuild is an astonishing accomplishment. Believe me, if that happens the sports media will be shipping him to every open job b/c he's "too good" to be at State. And I've got a feeling if we do bump off Florida this season Lebby will be on their short list, but so will Lane.