View Full Version : Lemon gets 2nd portal position player
Coach34
06-11-2024, 02:11 PM
https://citadelsports.com/sports/baseball/roster/sawyer-reeves/9599
One of the toughest to strike out this past season.
Johnson85
06-11-2024, 02:35 PM
https://citadelsports.com/sports/baseball/roster/sawyer-reeves/9599
One of the toughest to strike out this past season.
Is .304 as a RS Jr in the Southern Conference good?
It'd also be nice if we could get some of these lower tier conference players with more than one year of eligibility left.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 02:53 PM
Saw where he also visited SC and Kentucky
Santiago
06-11-2024, 02:55 PM
Is .304 as a RS Jr in the Southern Conference good?
It'd also be nice if we could get some of these lower tier conference players with more than one year of eligibility left.
Is this a backup/utility type guy for us?
Commercecomet24
06-11-2024, 02:56 PM
https://citadelsports.com/sports/baseball/roster/sawyer-reeves/9599
One of the toughest to strike out this past season.
And has speed and good obp. Very successful stealing bases. Seems like we're looking for more contact players after watching all the k's with runners on this year. I can agree with that.
Leroy Jenkins
06-11-2024, 02:57 PM
Is he competing for Larry's old job? He was a SS, but hopefully we don't have an opening there.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 03:02 PM
Is he competing for Larry's old job? He was a SS, but hopefully we don't have an opening there.
In what I've read in each interview with the transfers- they both mention being able to play multiple positions
basedog
06-11-2024, 03:03 PM
Looks like a solid pickup.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 03:05 PM
D1 listed him as a Top 50 SS in college baseball before the season
Cooterpoot
06-11-2024, 03:35 PM
Punch and Judy hitter like we love under Gotro. Should be another banner ground ball season in Starkville. Gotro teams don't K a ton but damn, they do little else again and it's another long year. Better find some power in a big way.
BigDawg81
06-11-2024, 05:07 PM
Meanwhile, LSU gets Indiana State power hitter who hit 23 homers.
KOdawg1
06-11-2024, 05:23 PM
Meh. Not awful. Not great
TNDawg35
06-11-2024, 05:31 PM
We’re gonna be a good mid major team next year…
Coach34
06-11-2024, 05:46 PM
Meanwhile, LSU gets Indiana State power hitter who hit 23 homers.
We?re not going to sign anybody in the portal LSU or Fla wants no matter who our coach is.
We?re not going to sign anybody in the portal LSU or Fla wants no matter who our coach is.
Is that because of money?
RockyDog
06-11-2024, 06:34 PM
Is that because of money?
Because they are better programs and they don?t have whiny pu$$y ass fans like Queef that bitch after a natty
CaptainObvious
06-11-2024, 06:37 PM
We?re not going to sign anybody in the portal LSU or Fla wants no matter who our coach is.
Wow! You are either Nostradamus reincarnate or Jesus. And I absolutely know for a fact you aren't Jesus!
You have 0 and I MEAN ZERO idea how another coach might do in the portal! When you get through folding Chrissy's Underwear and darning his socks, spin us up some more GUARANDAMNTEES!
Coach34
06-11-2024, 06:39 PM
Wow! You are either Nostradamus reincarnate or Jesus. And I absolutely know for a fact you aren't Jesus!
You have 0 and I MEAN ZERO idea how another coach might do in the portal! When you get through folding Chrissy's Underwear and darning his socks, spin us up some more GUARANDAMNTEES!
You can whine and hate all you want. People dont like hearing it- but its just the reality of things.
Offshore Dawg
06-11-2024, 06:59 PM
Is that because of money?
Dawgs do not have Raising Canes money, at all.
Saltydog
06-11-2024, 07:06 PM
Don't kid yourself. We may not even be that good.
archdog
06-11-2024, 07:26 PM
We need 6 Mershons
Coach34
06-11-2024, 07:34 PM
We’re gonna be a good mid major team next year…
D1 named this guy one of the 50 best SS in college baseball. Let's chill with the dumb shit.
It was just one short year ago we had posters laughing at Lemon for signing Purdue. He went on to become 1st team SEC and one of the best in conference.
Our last 2 CF'ers were G5 and great for us
D1 named this guy one of the 50 best SS in college baseball. Let's chill with the dumb shit.
It was just one short year ago we had posters laughing at Lemon for signing Purdue. He went on to become 1st team SEC and one of the best in conference.
Our last 2 CF'ers were G5 and great for us
No kidding!!!!
We act like G5 is so far off. As a team, usually but individual players?.nah.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 08:00 PM
No kidding!!!!
We act like G5 is so far off. As a team, usually but individual players?.nah.
G5 is the new development program for P5 programs to raid and steal their best
Commercecomet24
06-11-2024, 08:10 PM
G5 is the new development program for P5 programs to raid and steal their best
Exactly. Every p5 program is taking the best players from g5. It's like the minor leagues for p5 now. It's not the 80s where you develop your own players anymore
Coach34
06-11-2024, 08:22 PM
Exactly. Every p5 program is taking the best players from g5. It's like the minor leagues for p5 now. It's not the 80s where you develop your own players anymore
Jay Johnson just said as much. Every season now is a 1 year deal. You are totally rebuilding your roster every season now.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jay Johnson told us the days of building a program are gone, and that this year's LSU team was too deep. Now he's focusing on building his team one year at a time.<br><br>"I want the guy that Skip Bertman was able to red-shirt...the reality of it is that's much more difficult to do." <a href="https://t.co/VoOtg8cbNl">pic.twitter.com/VoOtg8cbNl</a></p>— Pat Timlin (@pat_timlin) <a href="https://twitter.com/pat_timlin/status/1800651745980293619?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Coach34
06-11-2024, 08:25 PM
And we have to Moneyball with the portal. We arent going to get the high end guys commanding big money. We arent that team. We are literally the Oakland A's
LSU, Florida, A&M, UPig, etc- they all have that booster they can go to for a big check for someone. We dont have that like they do
No BS Dawg
06-11-2024, 08:52 PM
If this is the case, and it certainly seems to be based on the last few years, we will be playing second fiddle to LSU, Florida, AM, Tennessee in baseball. We will be stuck in the 5-10 part of the SEC and lose out in regional play most years. We can?t pull mainly G5 and D2 players and expect to compete more than that. That is also the reality of the situation. Our best hope is to get a guy that cocky baseball players want to play for and can pull with his fire and passion. Lemonis is not that guy and Vittellos do not grow on trees.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 09:03 PM
If this is the case, and it certainly seems to be based on the last few years, we will be playing second fiddle to LSU, Florida, AM, Tennessee in baseball. We will be stuck in the 5-10 part of the SEC and lose out in regional play most years. We can?t pull mainly G5 and D2 players and expect to compete more than that. That is also the reality of the situation. Our best hope is to get a guy that cocky baseball players want to play for and can pull with his fire and passion. Lemonis is not that guy and Vittellos do not grow on trees.
We will see if Lemon is a Moneyball guy or not. But no doubt- this is where we are
our fans have to understand- college baseball as we knew it is gone from 2021. The portal, NIL, and unlimited transfers has changed the game.
maroonmania
06-11-2024, 09:15 PM
We will see if Lemon is a Moneyball guy or not. But no doubt- this is where we are
our fans have to understand- college baseball as we knew it is gone from 2021. The portal, NIL, and unlimited transfers has changed the game.
Yep, which is exactly why I said I'm glad we got our NC in 2021 because we likely won't see another unless we get a top.of the line coach at some point that recruits and develops his ass off. All the recruiting advantages we had pre NIL are gone. It's just a money game for the elite guys now. College baseball used to be the most pure amateur college sport out there but those days are long gone.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 09:26 PM
Yep, which is exactly why I said I'm glad we got our NC in 2021 because we likely won't see another unless we get a top.of the line coach at some point that recruits and develops his ass off. All the recruiting advantages we had pre NIL are gone. It's just a money game for the elite guys now. College baseball used to be the most pure amateur college sport out there but those days are long gone.
Yes and its why I loved college baseball more than MLB since I was 5.
But without money- Vitello is not Vitello. We have fans that hear shit and want to spout we are middle of the pack in NIL- well thats what we are going to be in the SEC- middle of the pack. LSU, Tenn, Candy, Fla, A&M are spending twice what we are so they are getting the top of the line guys. We wont be getting those guys. We are Moneyball and we better hit on more than we miss.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 09:32 PM
and to add- with our budget in the big sports- our main goal is to keep what we have. So we have to recruit well- which is also hampered by NIL- and keep the good ones from being raided.
This is college sports now
Coach34
06-11-2024, 09:44 PM
If you want us to get the guy from Indiana State that hit 23 HR's and is going to LSU? Contribute 100K to the NIL so we can get him
Otherwise? STFU. Stop blaming Lemon because you dont make enough money
Pinto
06-11-2024, 10:15 PM
So much BS and outright lies in this thread. Folks threads like this are why you don?t believe what you read on message boards.
So much BS and outright lies in this thread. Folks threads like this are why you don?t believe what you read on message boards.
Explain specifically please.
Quaoarsking
06-11-2024, 10:24 PM
D1 named this guy one of the 50 best SS in college baseball. Let's chill with the dumb shit.
I'm not necessarily down on this guy, but "top 50 in college baseball" isn't a huge compliment when, if you exclude the Big 10 which isn't really a power conference in baseball, there aren't 50 power conference teams.
Coach34
06-11-2024, 10:37 PM
So much BS and outright lies in this thread. Folks threads like this are why you don?t believe what you read on message boards.
feel free to call out the lies and lets discuss what you think is BS
Please bring us some facts and data- not just your opinion
Coach34
06-11-2024, 10:38 PM
I'm not necessarily down on this guy, but "top 50 in college baseball" isn't a huge compliment when, if you exclude the Big 10 which isn't really a power conference in baseball, there aren't 50 power conference teams.
Hard to discount the Big Ten when we and other teams get guys from there that excel in our league
Todd4State
06-12-2024, 12:25 AM
Exactly. Every p5 program is taking the best players from g5. It's like the minor leagues for p5 now. It's not the 80s where you develop your own players anymore
This is the thing about the portal that most of our fans don't understand. It's not that common for anyone- even LSU or Tennessee to take a bunch of legit guys from the SEC and ACC. Are there some out there like Billy Amick, Chase Burns, Tommy White, etc.? Sure but it's only a handful of players like that so the pool is small to start with.
The vast majority of the players teams in the SEC get out of the portal are going to be from mid majors and smaller schools. It's just how the system is set up really. To make it 3-4 years at a SEC school you have to be a high end prospect like a Nolan Stevens or you have to be a guy that can come in and contribute right away almost like Hunter Hines.
Most of the SEC guys that transfer out are going to be like Aiden Moffett that maybe have a high upside which got them recruited by a SEC school to start with but if they don't make progress quickly the funds dry up and they essentially have to go somewhere else to play.
The mid majors are going to get the "good ball player/late bloomer" types and those are the ones that end up in the SEC eventually. Conner Hujsack probably falls in that category.
In the immediate future for us- we're going to have to build around guys like Nolan Stevens, Makhai Grant, Luke Dotson, Ross Highfill, Dylan Cupp, and whomever we get through the draft like Henry Allen, maybe Dante Nori, etc. And then the portal guys like Gehrig are going to fill in the gaps.
Todd4State
06-12-2024, 01:08 AM
Is he competing for Larry's old job? He was a SS, but hopefully we don't have an opening there.
I think this is a player that can play multiple positions and we can play him wherever we need him. It helps with the uncertainty of Mershon because he can play MIF and was a Brooks Wallace Award watch player so he's someone that can at least adequately play MIF. He also has the ability to play the OF and of course DH. At 6'3" he is tall enough to even profile at first base even though the bat doesn't profile there. He doesn't have a ton of power but he doesn't strike out a lot and he makes contact. He again like Gehrig Frei has an almost 1/1 K/BB ratio and he has some speed.
Odd as this sounds- from reading up on him I think he actually may replace Johnny Long in terms of being a team leader. He sounds like a very mature, hard working kid who was able to thrive at a military school. He'll probably lead in a different way than Long.
Will he start? Maybe/maybe not depending on what else we bring in the portal and how the draft shakes out but at worst it looks like on paper we got a guy that is versatile, makes contact, isn't going to cause problems on or off the field and can run a little bit.
When you're talking about lineup depth this is the kind of guy that we're talking about.
basedog
06-12-2024, 07:32 AM
As far as the future with any college baseball team, you don't have to have 8 or or 9 superstars, u do need leaders who want to work hard and get better. Making the regionals is the goal, once you get in regional play, anything can happen. In baseball, the most talented team doesn't always win, our Natty team and Ole Dixie Natty team got hot at the right time. Pitching is the most important position in baseball, they can control the outcome more than not.
Mjoelner34
06-12-2024, 07:46 AM
As long as Downs, Frei and House play like their first names are their last names, we'll be good.
PMDawg
06-12-2024, 08:09 AM
No kidding!!!!
We act like G5 is so far off. As a team, usually but individual players?.nah.
Yeah, it doesn't worry me too bad. I'm in no position to say whether these guys can be successful at the next level or not, but if you can play baseball you can play baseball. I don't mind hitting for average either. As a matter of fact, stringing together a bunch of singles and doubles is what I like to see moreso than 3 strike outs sandwiched around a solo HR or just praying for a walk and a HR. That said, we could definitely use a bit more power in the lineup. I think a good balance is important.
maroonmania
06-12-2024, 01:41 PM
As far as the future with any college baseball team, you don't have to have 8 or or 9 superstars, u do need leaders who want to work hard and get better. Making the regionals is the goal, once you get in regional play, anything can happen. In baseball, the most talented team doesn't always win, our Natty team and Ole Dixie Natty team got hot at the right time. Pitching is the most important position in baseball, they can control the outcome more than not.
You don't need a team full of superstars but you definitely need 1 or 2. Florida and Georgia probably wouldn't have even been regional teams without Caglione and Condin. Those type hitters totally change a team. We lose our 2 big bats in DJ and Hines and we have to get at least one big time bat to be what we need to be offensively next season. Offense is going to be a real challenge at this point with what we have available next year.
Bdawg
06-13-2024, 07:51 AM
Yeah, it doesn't worry me too bad. I'm in no position to say whether these guys can be successful at the next level or not, but if you can play baseball you can play baseball. I don't mind hitting for average either. As a matter of fact, stringing together a bunch of singles and doubles is what I like to see moreso than 3 strike outs sandwiched around a solo HR or just praying for a walk and a HR. That said, we could definitely use a bit more power in the lineup. I think a good balance is important.
Stringing together some hits and extending inning can definitely run pitch counts up too. We put a lot of zeros on the board the year. It seems a lot of times we would have a good inning and that would be it. Hope we put together a more complete lineup because the voids were real this year.
TheLostDawg
06-13-2024, 08:02 AM
Yeah, it doesn't worry me too bad. I'm in no position to say whether these guys can be successful at the next level or not, but if you can play baseball you can play baseball. I don't mind hitting for average either. As a matter of fact, stringing together a bunch of singles and doubles is what I like to see moreso than 3 strike outs sandwiched around a solo HR or just praying for a walk and a HR. That said, we could definitely use a bit more power in the lineup. I think a good balance is important.
Lsu just signed the Wofford pitcher and they have money to pull power 5 guys as people on here constantly bring up
Cooterpoot
06-13-2024, 12:09 PM
Stringing together some hits and extending inning can definitely run pitch counts up too. We put a lot of zeros on the board the year. It seems a lot of times we would have a good inning and that would be it. Hope we put together a more complete lineup because the voids were real this year.
Stringing together hits is the hard part of run scoring. Our power numbers hurt us this year and we need power numbers, not just HRs.
WSOPdawg
06-13-2024, 12:46 PM
You don't need a team full of superstars but you definitely need 1 or 2. Florida and Georgia probably wouldn't have even been regional teams without Caglione and Condin. Those type hitters totally change a team. We lose our 2 big bats in DJ and Hines and we have to get at least one big time bat to be what we need to be offensively next season. Offense is going to be a real challenge at this point with what we have available next year.
Yep, 1 or 2 alpha dogs. Mershon and Hujsak emerged as the year went on. Hopefully, these alpha dogs show up earlier in the season next year.
Santiago
06-13-2024, 12:50 PM
If Parker keeps improving our staff, and bringing in his evaluations over what he inherited, then these position players that are dirtbags make it a fun team. Speed, running on contact, putting pressure on other defenses, distracting the other pitchers. Meanwhile our pitchers are lock down guys. My favorite brand of baseball. We do need those couple of stars that take over games.
confucius say
06-13-2024, 12:55 PM
And we have to Moneyball with the portal. We arent going to get the high end guys commanding big money. We arent that team. We are literally the Oakland A's
LSU, Florida, A&M, UPig, etc- they all have that booster they can go to for a big check for someone. We dont have that like they do
KY spends way less than us and is making it work.
We didn't lose Holman and Montgomery because of money last year. We lost them because they didn't want to play here.
I do agree we are middle of the pack in baseball NIL, but we had more money to spend last year and the guys worth big money didn't want to play here with our situation.
confucius say
06-13-2024, 12:56 PM
I'm more interested in replacing arms right now.
Commercecomet24
06-13-2024, 01:03 PM
If Parker keeps improving our staff, and bringing in his evaluations over what he inherited, then these position players that are dirtbags make it a fun team. Speed, running on contact, putting pressure on other defenses, distracting the other pitchers. Meanwhile our pitchers are lock down guys. My favorite brand of baseball. We do need those couple of stars that take over games.
Yes, this! This is how I built my teams! And it's fun for everyone, coaches, players, fans! Other teams hate it because there's always pressure!! You can drive other teams crazy! Run, run and run some more!
I hate station to station baseball and waiting on hrs. I learned a lot from Whitey Herzog the few times I was able to visit with him.
CaptainObvious
06-13-2024, 01:47 PM
Yeah, it doesn't worry me too bad. I'm in no position to say whether these guys can be successful at the next level or not, but if you can play baseball you can play baseball. I don't mind hitting for average either. As a matter of fact, stringing together a bunch of singles and doubles is what I like to see moreso than 3 strike outs sandwiched around a solo HR or just praying for a walk and a HR. That said, we could definitely use a bit more power in the lineup. I think a good balance is important.
This is exactly what we had this year with DJ and Hines in SEC play but also in the midweek games we lost. Too many times they were non productive outs in kep situations. Rarely were they in the middle of a big inning with a big extra base hit if a HR. Usually in a big inning, they walked or singled with no one on or only a runner in first. And way too many times in games that mattered, they both k's 3 times in big situations. And don't get me started on the number of times our 9 hole hitter led off an inning with an easy out. Which means our 8 hole hitter continued to make the last out of the previous inning. So when your 1, 3, 4, 8, and 9 hitters are constantly making outs. How can you build big innings or even spread the scoring out?
basedog
06-13-2024, 02:00 PM
KY spends way less than us and is making it work.
We didn't lose Holman and Montgomery because of money last year. We lost them because they didn't want to play here.
I do agree we are middle of the pack in baseball NIL, but we had more money to spend last year and the guys worth big money didn't want to play here with our situation.
You are exactly right, money was never the issuse with many, it was the players and them not wanting to play for our coach or Msu.
Cooterpoot
06-13-2024, 04:10 PM
If Parker keeps improving our staff, and bringing in his evaluations over what he inherited, then these position players that are dirtbags make it a fun team. Speed, running on contact, putting pressure on other defenses, distracting the other pitchers. Meanwhile our pitchers are lock down guys. My favorite brand of baseball. We do need those couple of stars that take over games.
If we don't improve our slugging numbers we aren't getting better. We don't have a bunch of speed and dirt bags either at this point. We're bottom half of the conference in talent right now. Agree about Parker though.
Coach34
06-13-2024, 05:46 PM
KY spends way less than us and is making it work.
Link?? Show me where this published?
NIL started 3 years ago- look how good Kentucky has been since. Kentucky missed the NCAA's from 2018-2022. NIL kicks in? Kentucky has made a Super and now a CWS
Bdawg
06-13-2024, 11:30 PM
Stringing together hits is the hard part of run scoring. Our power numbers hurt us this year and we need power numbers, not just HRs.
No doubt. I hope our doubles go up significantly. I just want a more complete lineup. Too many voids this year in the lineup to go along with some rough slumps
Cooterpoot
06-14-2024, 04:00 AM
No doubt. I hope our doubles go up significantly. I just want a more complete lineup. Too many voids this year in the lineup to go along with some rough slumps
We were two real good lineup pieces and closer from hosting. Lots of inconsistency with our better players killed us too. Next year we've got tons of holes all over until we fill them. We're getting killed in the portal early. Hope some rumors are true and hope we win some battles for good position players. So far we have one.
basedog
06-14-2024, 07:55 AM
I would think after CWS things will pick up, but now days it doesn't seem to be a rush to enroll in school.
PMDawg
06-14-2024, 09:12 AM
If we don't improve our slugging numbers we aren't getting better. We don't have a bunch of speed and dirt bags either at this point. We're bottom half of the conference in talent right now. Agree about Parker though.
I get it. I'm not advocating for a line-up full of .300 hitters with NO power. We need a good balance. But people are complaining about signing a couple of guys that hit over .300 last year, and I think we need them too. We have to go find some power bats too, but here's a few people we had in the lineup last year and their BA at the end of the season.
Hunter Hines - .257
Amani Larry - .252
Logan Kohler - .244
Dylan Cupp - .258
Ethan Pulliam - .227
Nate Chester - .208
Johnny Long - .188
If the top 4 listed are all around .300, it's a much different team/season. The bottom 3, all hovering around .200 (or below), should never be major pieces in an SEC lineup. That's just pathetic. Pullium, at least he's a FR that showed some potential, so I guess I take that back on him, but Chester as a JR and Long as a super SR....that's just embarrassing. I understand why we had to play him, but geez that's bad. I'm in my mid 40s now, and I never played past age 20, but I'd put a healthy wager that I could bat higher than that if given the same amount of ABs as he got against D1 pitching.
Saltydog
06-14-2024, 12:24 PM
He can't prove it but you can't disprove it either. Either way, Mingione (or clown show like you call him) is doing damn well at his carnival. Meanwhile Lemz is sitting on the dunking booth.
Coach34
06-14-2024, 12:32 PM
He can't prove it but you can't disprove it either. Either way, Mingione (or clown show like you call him) is doing damn well at his carnival. Meanwhile Lemz is sitting on the dunking booth.
But that’s the point.
Clown Show couldn’t even make a Regional before NIL. Now he is thriving. His recruiting didn’t just suddenly get better because he is awesome- NIL has allowed them to get guys they would have never gotten before. Meanwhile- NIL is keeping us from getting guys that we would have gotten before.
If you think we are spending a lot more than Kentucky- you are totally detached from reality
Homedawg
06-14-2024, 12:41 PM
I get it. I'm not advocating for a line-up full of .300 hitters with NO power. We need a good balance. But people are complaining about signing a couple of guys that hit over .300 last year, and I think we need them too. We have to go find some power bats too, but here's a few people we had in the lineup last year and their BA at the end of the season.
Hunter Hines - .257
Amani Larry - .252
Logan Kohler - .244
Dylan Cupp - .258
Ethan Pulliam - .227
Nate Chester - .208
Johnny Long - .188
If the top 4 listed are all around .300, it's a much different team/season. The bottom 3, all hovering around .200 (or below), should never be major pieces in an SEC lineup. That's just pathetic. Pullium, at least he's a FR that showed some potential, so I guess I take that back on him, but Chester as a JR and Long as a super SR....that's just embarrassing. I understand why we had to play him, but geez that's bad. I'm in my mid 40s now, and I never played past age 20, but I'd put a healthy wager that I could bat higher than that if given the same amount of ABs as he got against D1 pitching.
No you couldn't. Not even close.
Coach34
06-14-2024, 12:58 PM
I could still hit 80-85 at 33/34 years old. 20 years later? Hayyyyyyle no
I’m happy to be slamming it off the 60 mph pitching machine now with my 12 year old.
confucius say
06-14-2024, 01:26 PM
Link?? Show me where this published?
NIL started 3 years ago- look how good Kentucky has been since. Kentucky missed the NCAA's from 2018-2022. NIL kicks in? Kentucky has made a Super and now a CWS
Ask Nick.
Show me where ours is published that we're middle of the pack. You can't. But lemonis said it himself.
Commercecomet24
06-14-2024, 01:29 PM
No you couldn't. Not even close.
This, it aint easy even when you're young and practicing every day.
State82
06-14-2024, 05:01 PM
I'm in my mid 40s now, and I never played past age 20, but I'd put a healthy wager that I could bat higher than that if given the same amount of ABs as he got against D1 pitching.
I am in. Just name the wager. Hardest thing to do in sports.
Commercecomet24
06-14-2024, 05:58 PM
I am in. Just name the wager. Hardest thing to do in sports.
I just watched a video the other day where Micah Parsons(Cowboys DE) said he could hit .200 in mlb. Tyler Glasnow(pitcher) said if he got 500 abs he MIGHT get 5 hits, maybe, lol!
PMDawg
06-14-2024, 06:25 PM
No you couldn't. Not even close.
Not even close? That's the point. I could bat 0.000 and still be pretty "close" to .188. It's laughable.
PMDawg
06-14-2024, 06:39 PM
I am in. Just name the wager. Hardest thing to do in sports.
Alright fair enough. It's really just hyperbole or talking smack. But .188 is hard to do when you've been doing it for so long. Today's game is full of .220 hitters and it just sucks.
basedog
06-14-2024, 06:58 PM
But that’s the point.
Clown Show couldn’t even make a Regional before NIL. Now he is thriving. His recruiting didn’t just suddenly get better because he is awesome- NIL has allowed them to get guys they would have never gotten before. Meanwhile- NIL is keeping us from getting guys that we would have gotten befo
If you think we are spending a lot more than Kentucky- you are totally detached from reality
I like the clown’s style. They put pressure on their opponents. Seems Ky likes baseball now days. I saw interview with him Ky job was his first time to be HC at any level, the interview was pretty awesome on things he talked about, lots were about his family. Seemed humble but very thankful also.
State82
06-14-2024, 06:59 PM
Alright fair enough. It's really just hyperbole or talking smack. But .188 is hard to do when you've been doing it for so long. Today's game is full of .220 hitters and it just sucks.
Oh I know. I was just woofing with ya.
Commercecomet24
06-14-2024, 07:05 PM
Alright fair enough. It's really just hyperbole or talking smack. But .188 is hard to do when you've been doing it for so long. Today's game is full of .220 hitters and it just sucks.
Now that's something I agree with.
Commercecomet24
06-14-2024, 07:08 PM
I like the clown’s style. They put pressure on their opponents. Seems Ky likes baseball now days. I saw interview with him Ky job was his first time to be HC at any level, the interview was pretty awesome on things he talked about, lots were about his family. Seemed humble but very thankful also.
I watched that interview as well. Pretty cool. I met him a couple times over the years at some national championship tournaments and he was kind of a jerk. People can change and become more humble as they get older though. The interview was really good with him and sometimes becoming a husband and father can settle you right down. I do love their style of play. Very aggressive and fun.
basedog
06-14-2024, 07:19 PM
I watched that interview as well. Pretty cool. I met him a couple times over the years at some national championship tournaments and he was kind of a jerk. People can change and become more humble as they get older though. The interview was really good with him and sometimes becoming a husband and father can settle you right down. I do love their style of play. Very aggressive and fun.
I thought the same thought after the interview. His team is fun to watch, steal bases, sac bunts, hit and run plus they have some power. Not sure how good there overall pitching.
Coach34
06-14-2024, 07:26 PM
I like the clown’s style. They put pressure on their opponents. Seems Ky likes baseball now days. I saw interview with him Ky job was his first time to be HC at any level, the interview was pretty awesome on things he talked about, lots were about his family. Seemed humble but very thankful also.
Clown Show is 100% personal and not anything related to coaching. He has done a really good job the last couple of years. They are the last SEC team to finallyyyy make it to Omaha. That's great for them.
I'm just pointing out- he didnt put together these teams until NIL. He went 4 straight seasons missing a Regional. Today? That gets you fired at probably every SEC school sans Mizzou
basedog
06-14-2024, 07:52 PM
Clown Show is 100% personal and not anything related to coaching. He has done a really good job the last couple of years. They are the last SEC team to finallyyyy make it to Omaha. That's great for them.
I'm just pointing out- he didnt put together these teams until NIL. He went 4 straight seasons missing a Regional. Today? That gets you fired at probably every SEC school sans Mizzou
Don’t you think inexperienced played a big part also. Nick is sorta strange but I saw a different side in the interview.
basedog
06-14-2024, 07:54 PM
Btw, this FSU pitcher got off to a rough start but he looks very impressive.
basedog
06-14-2024, 07:56 PM
Btw, this FSU pitcher got off to a rough start but he looks very impressive.
Well all for my last post. LOL. Two really good hitting teams.
Coach34
06-14-2024, 07:57 PM
Don’t you think inexperienced played a big part also. Nick is sorta strange but I saw a different side in the interview.
Not really when you miss 4 Straight years. How did he become a much better recruiter at 44 than he was at 40 or 42? How does that answer compare vs the start of NIL?
basedog
06-14-2024, 08:11 PM
Not really when you miss 4 Straight years. How did he become a much better recruiter at 44 than he was at 40 or 42? How does that answer compare vs the start of NIL?
Ky has come a long ways in football and baseball. But it’s a basketball school for sure. Gonna be interesting with their new HC in basketball.
Btw, I wonder if Stoops damaged what he built with the fan base while dealing with the Aggies.
Todd4State
06-14-2024, 08:28 PM
Not really when you miss 4 Straight years. How did he become a much better recruiter at 44 than he was at 40 or 42? How does that answer compare vs the start of NIL?
Hire a MLB scout and Nick Ammirrati as your hitting coaches probably had a big impact.
BrunswickDawg
06-14-2024, 09:27 PM
Hire a MLB scout and Nick Ammirrati as your hitting coaches probably had a big impact.
We need to call Nick home
Todd4State
06-14-2024, 09:37 PM
We need to call Nick home
We need to call both of them home. Both are MSU alumni.
I'm not even sure why Gautreau even coaches honestly with his ties to Boras. Especially given the rumors that he is a lazy recruiter and is more focused on his family than anything. Which to be clear is not a bad thing but it's going to limit success in the SEC unfortunately.
Go ahead and roast me. It is what it is.
ZedFedder
06-14-2024, 11:04 PM
We need to call both of them home. Both are MSU alumni.
I'm not even sure why Gautreau even coaches honestly with his ties to Boras. Especially given the rumors that he is a lazy recruiter and is more focused on his family than anything. Which to be clear is not a bad thing but it's going to limit success in the SEC unfortunately.
Go ahead and roast me. It is what it is.
For what it?s worth, I did see Gautreau in the Houston Airport this week. I?m assuming he was out recruiting.
Todd4State
06-14-2024, 11:33 PM
For what it?s worth, I did see Gautreau in the Houston Airport this week. I?m assuming he was out recruiting.
Maybe. Houston is his hometown I believe.
Cooterpoot
06-15-2024, 05:58 AM
But that’s the point.
Clown Show couldn’t even make a Regional before NIL. Now he is thriving. His recruiting didn’t just suddenly get better because he is awesome- NIL has allowed them to get guys they would have never gotten before. Meanwhile- NIL is keeping us from getting guys that we would have gotten before.
If you think we are spending a lot more than Kentucky- you are totally detached from reality
I think he just got lucky with some guys and they didn't play the toughest SEC schedule or get a tough regional draw and they're a scrappy team. I don't think they necessarily recruit that great but Ming has surprisingly done a good job. He was a bit of a weirdo here.
BigDawg81
06-15-2024, 09:33 AM
Maybe. Houston is his hometown I believe.I am willing to bet that he is from SSE Louisiana
going by his surname
CaptainObvious
06-15-2024, 09:34 AM
Kentucky had $4 million in NIL funds total. After announcing Mark Pope as head basketball coach, they raised another $1 million.
Baseball isn't getting much NIL out of that total.
Football is getting a lot more than baseball and we know basketball gets the lion's share of that $5 million. I doubt KY spends more if even as much as State does on Baseball.
Coach34
06-15-2024, 11:06 AM
Kentucky had $4 million in NIL funds total. After announcing Mark Pope as head basketball coach, they raised another $1 million.
Baseball isn't getting much NIL out of that total.
Football is getting a lot more than baseball and we know basketball gets the lion's share of that $5 million. I doubt KY spends more if even as much as State does on Baseball.
That’s ludicrous. They spend more than $4MM in basketball alone
Todd4State
06-15-2024, 11:44 AM
I am willing to bet that he is from SSE Louisiana
going by his surname
He's from McAllen, Tx
The Federalist Engineer
06-15-2024, 04:58 PM
I like the clown?s style. They put pressure on their opponents. Seems Ky likes baseball now days. I saw interview with him Ky job was his first time to be HC at any level, the interview was pretty awesome on things he talked about, lots were about his family. Seemed humble but very thankful also.
Watching the Clown show, when they have a runner on 2nd base, they don't get thrown out. It's like his baserunners have above 70 IQ and don't get thrown out routinely.
Also, they have only 3 hitting under 255 in the everyday lineup. MSU had 255 hitters batting lead-off and clean-up in 2024. MSU had too many limited and marginal players in the everyday lineup. Hunter Hines would have been a Samford or Georgia Southern hall of famer, same for Amani Larry at Louisiana Monroe or SEMO.
basedog
06-15-2024, 05:28 PM
Watching the regionals and Supers, I was amazed at all of the lead off batters with double digit home runs.
Clutch hitting is so important.
Offshore Dawg
06-15-2024, 05:29 PM
When is #3 from the portal to be announced.
DownwardDawg
06-15-2024, 05:36 PM
When is #3 from the portal to be announced.
Yeah. We need more.
Cooterpoot
06-15-2024, 05:49 PM
When is #3 from the portal to be announced.
Waiting on these small school kids to decide if they'll take our $19.95 worth of NIL.
Coach34
06-15-2024, 08:26 PM
Waiting on these small school kids to decide if they'll take our $19.95 worth of NIL.
It takes time for the players to go thru the coupon book also
schddog72
06-15-2024, 09:49 PM
We?re gonna be a good mid major team next year?
Yes, we might do quite alright in the AAC. I'd be concerned about CUSA, though. Sunbelt might be a competitive option for us. . . . . . .
The Federalist Engineer
06-15-2024, 10:17 PM
Watching the regionals and Supers, I was amazed at all of the lead off batters with double digit home runs.
Clutch hitting is so important.
True, I would add that power potential is critical too. Seems the best teams can snag a quick run with one swing. Nearly all the CWS teams have +100 team HRs.
Tbonewannabe
06-17-2024, 05:12 AM
That’s ludicrous. They spend more than $4MM in basketball alone
UK probably has more than that but I would bet we spend more on baseball. We care about softball about as much as they do baseball prior to winning the SEC. A friend up there was surprised when we went to our game last year and there was more than 1,000 people there. About 1/4 were MSU fans.
Pancho
06-17-2024, 11:40 AM
maybe we need a half full dude and better players and coaching.
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