Baseball Draft Help

[bigbub50]

My knowledge of the MLB draft is rather elementary. I?d love some clarification from our baseball experts.

I know a few years ago there was a chance guys out of high school or college guys with remaining eligibility could go rather high and refuse the contract and go to or back to college. But it seems I read a lot of that has changed since the draft has been cut back. Essentially, guys that go in the top 10 rounds are gonna sign because mlb teams have vetted the situation and won?t waste a top ten round pick on a guy they?re not sure will sign. Is this true?

If true, does that cause guys with top round talent but have given indications that they want to go to college or back to college to fall down the draft than where their talents actually project them to go?

Also, I?d like some clarification on these guys decision making in reference to college guys with only one year remaining eligibility. I know they lose signing bonus negotiation if they have expired their college eligibility but NIL has allowed colleges to possibly lure them back. But ignoring NIL do college players with no remaining college eligibility still lose most of their signing bonus money or has that changed?

[StarkVegasSteve]

My knowledge of the MLB draft is rather elementary. I?d love some clarification from our baseball experts.

I know a few years ago there was a chance guys out of high school or college guys with remaining eligibility could go rather high and refuse the contract and go to or back to college. But it seems I read a lot of that has changed since the draft has been cut back. Essentially, guys that go in the top 10 rounds are gonna sign because mlb teams have vetted the situation and won?t waste a top ten round pick on a guy they?re not sure will sign. Is this true?

If true, does that cause guys with top round talent but have given indications that they want to go to college or back to college to fall down the draft than where their talents actually project them to go?

Also, I?d like some clarification on these guys decision making in reference to college guys with only one year remaining eligibility. I know they lose signing bonus negotiation if they have expired their college eligibility but NIL has allowed colleges to possibly lure them back. But ignoring NIL do college players with no remaining college eligibility still lose most of their signing bonus money or has that changed?

1. It is kind of true that if they are drafting a guy high that they believe they will sign, but it's more like the top 4 rounds than the top 10. It can cause guys to drop if they indicate they are going to college, but some teams will still draft them high and throw a big number at them to see if they can entice them. Also keeps a good relationship with that team.

2. College players that have exhausted their eligibility still lose any and all of their negotiation power. They will sign for pennies on the dollar.

[Todd4State]

It is true that the vast majority of players drafted in the top 10 rounds sign. Very rarely you will see a JT Ginn situation where the Dodgers in that case rolled the dice because they didn't like the draft class and they knew if they didn't sign him they would get a top round compensation pick. 99% of the time players sign.

What most teams do is draft the elite prospects on the top 4-5 rounds and then most of rounds 5-10 are college juniors, seniors, and draft eligible sophomores- probably where a guy like Khal Stephen will go.

Rounds 11-20 are kind of a crapshoot.

The second question about NIL. That's on a case by case basis of course but for the player we would have to offer enough NIL to offset their risk financially. I think the minimum bonus is like 125k or something like that so we would have to offer more than that to entice a player to come back. A guy like Houston Harding would have fit that category in the past maybe. Someone like Dakota Jordan? Probably at least 3 million to come back. LOL.

[parabrave]

Top 5 they are gone. Now I've talked to a few of the 1st rounders of the Brewers and the High Schoolers had it in their contracts for money for college because not all 1st rounders get to the bigs/

[TheLostDawg]

Top 5 they are gone. Now I've talked to a few of the 1st rounders of the Brewers and the High Schoolers had it in their contracts for money for college because not all 1st rounders get to the bigs/

In that case why don't we see, or do I just not know about it, more guys that didn't make it go back to college and be an assistant/ help out with the baseball team

[Coach34]

In that case why don't we see, or do I just not know about it, more guys that didn't make it go back to college and be an assistant/ help out with the baseball team

NCAA limits on staff and such

[TheLostDawg]

NCAA limits on staff and such

They don't let student volunteers like ga's?

[Coach34]

You can only have X amount of coaches on the field for a particular sport as allowed by the NCAA

[parabrave]

In that case why don't we see, or do I just not know about it, more guys that didn't make it go back to college and be an assistant/ help out with the baseball team

Alot of them go on to be scouts and coaches for the teams.

[TheLostDawg]

You can only have X amount of coaches on the field for a particular sport as allowed by the NCAA

I knew that about coaches but didn't know if there was a gray zone for "volunteers"/ students

[TheLostDawg]

Alot of them go on to be scouts and coaches for the teams.

Got you.