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Coach34
06-01-2024, 08:26 PM
They brought their RP in and he was 3-0 with Dirtbag. He bailed him out on a close 3-0. Then he bailed him out again on a 3-1 that was a bad call. He stretched the zone. Dirtbag got out and we didnt score.

Parker had some really bad pitch calls from the dugout. Terrible calls to a couple of their guys. But him letting that lefty 8 hole hit when when we could have walked him to face the next 2 RHH's- bad call.

This is big boy baseball- Parker needs to be better

TALL DAWG
06-01-2024, 08:33 PM
You nailed it on both topics!
Should have walked the guy for sure.

the_real_MSU_is_us
06-01-2024, 08:35 PM
1) 2 outs, top of the 9th, tied game. YOur best basestealer is on 1st. Do you A) send him s oyou only need 1 2 out hit to score him, or B) rely on back to back 2 out hits to take the lead? We somehow did B). That's on Lemo

2) 1 out, bottom 9th, runner on first, tied game. Pitcher gets a picture perfect DP ball and the 2B errors it.

3) Through 9 innings, our offense scored 3 earned runs (all in 1 inning) off a team who's WEAKNESS is their pitching. We have the recruiting rankings to be a top 15 offense yet we scored way less than Virginias team ERA shows we should have.

4) Whatever bad calls Parker made, he ultimately allowed an elite offense to score 5 runs. That's not a terrible end result vs Virginia

Parker was the least of our issues today. Jake G has to go

HoopsDawg
06-01-2024, 08:38 PM
They brought their RP in and he was 3-0 with Dirtbag. He bailed him out on a close 3-0. Then he bailed him out again on a 3-1 that was a bad call. He stretched the zone. Dirtbag got out and we didnt score.

Parker had some really bad pitch calls from the dugout. Terrible calls to a couple of their guys. But him letting that lefty 8 hole hit when when we could have walked him to face the next 2 RHH's- bad call.

This is big boy baseball- Parker needs to be better

Ump squeezed Lo on their 2 run inning early in the game as well. Agree, we should have walked Becker with 1st base open. Not sure what's up with Dohm either.

tcdog70
06-01-2024, 08:38 PM
34 exactly. 90% of Coaches would have walked the lefty.. low IQ.by our Coach.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
06-01-2024, 08:40 PM
Why was Larry still in the game at that point? Defensive sub would've extended the game. Umps were inconsistent.

Brobi-wan
06-01-2024, 08:40 PM
Jake has to go, yes the ump bailed them out. It’s not over until we lose again.

RockyDog
06-01-2024, 08:44 PM
Parker is light in the IQ department

the_real_MSU_is_us
06-01-2024, 08:53 PM
Why was Larry still in the game at that point? Defensive sub would've extended the game. Umps were inconsistent.

Good point- we're in a tie game with an ump as likely to walk you as ring you up for a ball at your feet. Larry had done nothing offensively. Hines and Hujsak were coming up in the 10th that could have given us the lead. The defensive 2B absolutely makes the most sense to play

Coach34
06-01-2024, 08:54 PM
Parker is light in the IQ department

No- Parker is a really good coach. But damn he made a big mistake tonight. Huge

Tomorrow is a new day

basedog
06-01-2024, 09:07 PM
Ump was bad no doubt but they didn’t beat us, we had our chances and couldn’t get the clutch hits. 3 run homer by Hunter was only clutch hit. We should beat St John and get another chance. If we can win two Sunday anything can happen Monday.

Leeshouldveflanked
06-01-2024, 09:09 PM
No- Parker is a really good coach. But damn he made a big mistake tonight. Huge

Tomorrow is a new day
Got beat by a Freshman. Do we even have a Freshman that contributes at all?

Coach34
06-01-2024, 09:11 PM
Got beat by a Freshman. Do we even have a Freshman that contributes at all?

What does that matter? College sports are about the portal now.

the_real_MSU_is_us
06-01-2024, 09:15 PM
Got beat by a Freshman. Do we even have a Freshman that contributes at all?

I'll take "No" for $600, Alex

All this "elite" recruiting and yet on a team with only 2 starters and 1 good bullpen arm, we have no Fr pitchers. On a team with sub par LF, 2B, C, 3B, and DH, we have 1 Fr that kinda can play 2B MAYBE over the error prone .250 hitting Larry?

the_real_MSU_is_us
06-01-2024, 09:22 PM
What does that matter? College sports are about the portal now.

HS recruiting gives a HUGE edge. A lot of guys have no interest in jumping schools to gain a buck. A lot of guys are actually loyal to their first team. A lot of guys will pass on more NIL money elsewhere because they don't want to have to move. For example, did Jordan leave State after last season? No. If he was from another school and entered the Portal, would State have gotten him? Unlikely.

We cannot afford to hire an entire team of Portal players every year. You know this. You recruit HS studs, pay the good ones what's needed to stay, and Portal in expensive talent to fill the gaps.

DawgFromOxford
06-01-2024, 09:27 PM
Ump didn?t do us any favors behind the dish but we were what 1-7 with RISP? It?s been the same song and dance for a while now, nail biter at the end but we couldn?t finish this one off.

maroonmania
06-01-2024, 09:28 PM
I'll take "No" for $600, Alex

All this "elite" recruiting and yet on a team with only 2 starters and 1 good bullpen arm, we have no Fr pitchers. On a team with sub par LF, 2B, C, 3B, and DH, we have 1 Fr that kinda can play 2B MAYBE over the error prone .250 hitting Larry?

Absolutely not and that's why most of us are thinking next year is going to be a nightmare given all we lose.

basedog
06-01-2024, 09:43 PM
HS recruiting gives a HUGE edge. A lot of guys have no interest in jumping schools to gain a buck. A lot of guys are actually loyal to their first team. A lot of guys will pass on more NIL money elsewhere because they don't want to have to move. For example, did Jordan leave State after last season? No. If he was from another school and entered the Portal, would State have gotten him? Unlikely.

We cannot afford to hire an entire team of Portal players every year. You know this. You recruit HS studs, pay the good ones what's needed to stay, and Portal in expensive talent to fill the gaps.

Good post, Portals to fill the gaps.

Commercecomet24
06-01-2024, 09:49 PM
Ump didn?t do us any favors behind the dish but we were what 1-7 with RISP? It?s been the same song and dance for a while now, nail biter at the end but we couldn?t finish this one off.

Yeah the ump sucked and he changed that whole 7th inning but we should've already been comfortably ahead at that point but couldn't get the big hit.

basedog
06-01-2024, 09:54 PM
Yeah the ump sucked and he changed that whole 7th inning but we should've already been comfortably ahead at that point but couldn't get the big hit.

Seems late innings have killed us in close games most of season. We just don’t seem to get 5 or 6 hitters hot at the same time. It’s like 2 or 3.

Commercecomet24
06-01-2024, 10:01 PM
Seems late innings have killed us in close games most of season. We just don’t seem to get 5 or 6 hitters hot at the same time. It’s like 2 or 3.

Yeah we can't get the right people hot at the right time seems like.

basedog
06-01-2024, 10:25 PM
Yeah we can't get the right people hot at the right time seems like.

Big game in the morning. Got to swing the bats.

basedog
06-01-2024, 10:27 PM
Hogs catching up now.

Brobi-wan
06-01-2024, 10:51 PM
Hogs lose.

basedog
06-01-2024, 10:54 PM
I just can’t see KSU winning that region but they are in the drivers seat!

Commercecomet24
06-01-2024, 11:02 PM
I just can’t see KSU winning that region but they are in the drivers seat!

I agree.

The Federalist Engineer
06-02-2024, 12:39 AM
Got beat by a Freshman. Do we even have a Freshman that contributes at all?

But we have the #2 or #5 recruiting class in the nation!

But our freshman don't play at all and the ones that pitch are dog meat when facing anyone but SWAC opponents.

Not dogging the kids, seems that Goat didn't get a ready player in 2024. He had Westburg, Foscue, Rowdey, TA, Hatcher, Logan Tanner, Hunter Hines, Kamren James, Mershon, Dakota Jordan all playing and contributing as Freshmen in years past.

McKenzie, O'Brien, Cupp, and Stevens were supposed to be contributors.

How could MSU have such a limited 2B'man with all this recruiting.

Todd4State
06-02-2024, 12:48 AM
I just can’t see KSU winning that region but they are in the drivers seat!

Arkansas doesn't have Tygart. That's going to make it tough to come back IMO.

Todd4State
06-02-2024, 12:51 AM
But we have the #2 or #5 recruiting class in the nation!

But our freshman don't play at all and the ones that pitch are dog meat when facing anyone but SWAC opponents.

Not dogging the kids, seems that Goat didn't get a ready player in 2024. He had Westburg, Foscue, Rowdey, TA, Hatcher, Logan Tanner, Hunter Hines, Kamren James, Mershon, Dakota Jordan all playing and contributing as Freshmen in years past.

McKenzie, O'Brien, Cupp, and Stevens were supposed to be contributors.

How could MSU have such a limited 2B'man with all this recruiting.

O'Brien is a good kid but not sure he was expected to contribute much.

Cupp, Stevens, Grant, and Rives Reynolds all had injuries this year. I didn't expect McKenzie to contribute much with Hines at first.

Tbonewannabe
06-02-2024, 08:32 AM
O'Brien is a good kid but not sure he was expected to contribute much.

Cupp, Stevens, Grant, and Rives Reynolds all had injuries this year. I didn't expect McKenzie to contribute much with Hines at first.

You didn't expect but also did you expect us to start players at DH with no homerun power and hitting like 0.250?

Santiago
06-02-2024, 08:50 AM
I just can’t see KSU winning that region but they are in the drivers seat!

KSU needs to be reminded of their 20 year historical standing in things ***

Brobi-wan
06-02-2024, 08:50 AM
Something nobody is taking into account is how many high ranked signees left after the last two years. Anyone got any data on that?

TALL DAWG
06-02-2024, 09:14 AM
Virginia scored 2 runs on a ball into a bad sun field (probably would?ve been caught at night) and 1 run on an error.
I hate it for our pitcher.
Baseball Gods weren?t kind to us last night.

the_real_MSU_is_us
06-02-2024, 10:14 AM
You didn't expect but also did you expect us to start players at DH with no homerun power and hitting like 0.250?

Exactly. You can't claim these Fr are SEC hitters kept on the bench by vets in front of them when DH is wide open

Hard not to view this Fr class as the worst one at State in a long time. Seriously, when was the last time we had no Fr contributor on the mound or at the plate when we have so many holes they could step up into?

The Federalist Engineer
06-02-2024, 10:38 AM
You didn't expect but also did you expect us to start players at DH with no homerun power and hitting like 0.250?

It's like Lemons does not under stand the premise of "Designated Hitter"

You are not supposed to staff the role with cats that barely hit better than a pitcher.

Also, you can't portal crappy defenders that can't hit either. Larry is not an SEC player, never was. Highfill hurt? So then MSU has to pull from the collegiate version of the Goodwill store. But even Highfill was not a guaranteed performer. RH was mauled by SEC pitching last year. Yeah, he would be improved by Goat's coaching as a sophomore, right.

WinningIsRelentless
06-02-2024, 02:15 PM
They brought their RP in and he was 3-0 with Dirtbag. He bailed him out on a close 3-0. Then he bailed him out again on a 3-1 that was a bad call. He stretched the zone. Dirtbag got out and we didnt score.

Parker had some really bad pitch calls from the dugout. Terrible calls to a couple of their guys. But him letting that lefty 8 hole hit when when we could have walked him to face the next 2 RHH's- bad call.

This is big boy baseball- Parker needs to be better

I question the bunt in the 7th. No outs one on up 2. Let it play out with top of the order coming.

But yea the ump helped both teams numerous times on 3-0 counts which then carried over to 3-1 counts as well.

I hate umpires working out of the split stance behind the plate. You already struggle to gage the outside corner. Split stances makes even worse.