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TheLostDawg
05-29-2024, 06:46 AM
https://247sports.com/longformarticle/ncaa-baseball-tournament-2024-takeaways-from-bracket-reveal-as-bubble-decisions-host-sites-draw-ire-232225630/

I know this is all excuses but seems our ooc bad losses are what they used from what a gather from this

Todd4State
05-29-2024, 07:01 AM
The only thing that was consistent this year was that if you were a school that had someone on the committee you got in.

Really one of the worst fields in years.

Homedawg
05-29-2024, 08:46 AM
The only thing that was consistent this year was that if you were a school that had someone on the committee you got in.

Really one of the worst fields in years.

Agree.....Arizona being 13th is criminal. Ecu getting host. Same....

Commercecomet24
05-29-2024, 08:52 AM
The only thing that was consistent this year was that if you were a school that had someone on the committee you got in.

Really one of the worst fields in years.

100%.

SaintDawg
05-29-2024, 09:27 AM
I would bet that half of these host schools will not win their regionals. If not more.

State82
05-29-2024, 09:52 AM
I would bet that half of these host schools will not win their regionals. If not more.

I would settle for just a fourth of the hosts losing. Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee and A & M. But I won't be greedy. Let UVA and Arky lose and I'll be good with that.

redstickdawg
05-29-2024, 10:03 AM
The only thing that was consistent this year was that if you were a school that had someone on the committee you got in.

Really one of the worst fields in years.

There is no possible reasonable explanation as to why Arizona or ECU were selected as hosts other than nepotism. There are no on the field metrics that justify their selection at all. Both are almost certain to 2 and Q as well.

Goldendawg
05-29-2024, 11:06 AM
We put ourselves in this position by all our mid-week, OOC, Quad 4 losses. Jackie always said you have to be ready to beat the other team and the officials. In this case, winning these type games would have given a very questionable make up of a committee no choice but to give us a regional slot.

Ranchdawg
05-29-2024, 06:57 PM
How do we fix this committee bull crud. I really would like to know. Do we go to a straight computer system? Using straight and only metrics. Or go to committee of people that have NO concern of who’s in the regionals. Not using AD’s or school presidents. But what we have now is not working and seriously needs to be fixed NOW! But as usual the NCCA doesn’t give a rip about fairness. And damn sure won’t fix things unless forced to. I don’t see how college sports was/is as poplar as it has been when the governing power is so dysfunctional.

maroonmania
05-29-2024, 07:04 PM
There is no possible reasonable explanation as to why Arizona or ECU were selected as hosts other than nepotism. There are no on the field metrics that justify their selection at all. Both are almost certain to 2 and Q as well.

And there is no good reason for Florida or Coastal Carolina to even be in the field at all except their ADs were on the committee.

LC Dawg
05-29-2024, 07:10 PM
There is no possible reasonable explanation as to why Arizona or ECU were selected as hosts other than nepotism. There are no on the field metrics that justify their selection at all. Both are almost certain to 2 and Q as well.

Arizona is geography and ECU is SEC fatigue. In my opinion.
I've heard that Stricklin was stumping for us but I'm more inclined to think he worked with ECU's AD on the committee and voted for ECU to host and ECU's AD voted for FL to get in the field.

CaptainObvious
05-29-2024, 07:54 PM
How do we fix this committee bull crud. I really would like to know. Do we go to a straight computer system? Using straight and only metrics. Or go to committee of people that have NO concern of who?s in the regionals. Not using AD?s or school presidents. But what we have now is not working and seriously needs to be fixed NOW! But as usual the NCCA doesn?t give a rip about fairness. And damn sure won?t fix things unless forced to. I don?t see how college sports was/is as poplar as it has been when the governing power is so dysfunctional.

We expedite the breakaway Super Conferences and tell the NCAA to take their Regional Selection Committee and shove it where the Sun Don't Shine and The Super Conferences schedule their own Championships in All Sports!

the_real_MSU_is_us
05-29-2024, 08:15 PM
Fact is, the committee keeps their criteria vague. Why would they do that instead of instead of making it transparent? So they can do whatever they want, that's why.

In baseball, there's a ton of stats you can go by. Q1 record, avoiding Q4 loses, rewarding a good SOS, RPI, KPI, end of the year finish, ticket sales, conference performance ect. There's so many criteria, the committee can select from about 8 teams for those last 2 host spots and fans like us will assume there's a formula and point out why X team didn't make it. There isn't a singular reason- if the committee wants you, they pick you. If they don't want you, whatever your weakest stat is is what we assume was the problem. Arizona got in because of either politics or geography, but it certainly wasn't resume. ECU's best resume point is 5-2 vs Q1, that's it. But they haven't played a decent team since their OOC so that 5-2 record is pretty irrelevant to who they are today.

Ultimately, if we didn't have 4 Q4 losses we'd probably host because at that point our resume would force their hand. Is what it is- we lost some games we shouldn't and failed to steal enough vs top SEC teams to make up for it and so we were in that bubble group. We are a really dangerous team just not quite good enough to avoid the bubble.

ECU stole DBU's spot, Arizona stole Dukes' spot in my opinion.

the_real_MSU_is_us
05-29-2024, 08:19 PM
And there is no good reason for Florida or Coastal Carolina to even be in the field at all except their ADs were on the committee.

Florida's resume is 1) they are capable of beating good teams, and 2) their RPI was high. Would have been the highest RPI to miss the tournament this year. But the fact a team that's almost .500 can have a top 30 RPI is just proof of how bad of a metric RPI is. No team should be punished for winning a game, and no team should be rewarded for losing. Sure maybe you shouldn't be punished for loosing at a top team, but you shouldn't be rewarded either. RPI is trash but changes to the math would make it ok

Todd4State
05-29-2024, 11:09 PM
Arizona is geography and ECU is SEC fatigue. In my opinion.
I've heard that Stricklin was stumping for us but I'm more inclined to think he worked with ECU's AD on the committee and voted for ECU to host and ECU's AD voted for FL to get in the field.

The theory is that he relented on ECU hosting to get the Gators in the tournament. Which is plausible.