View Full Version : How do you manage our pitching?
KOdawg1
05-27-2024, 01:04 PM
I see 3 options:
1. Keep everything the same and just roll.
-Purdue vs. St John's
-Loo vs Virginia
-Auger/Dohm/Pico to finish the job
2. Work backwards to give yourself a better chance to close it out
-Auger vs St. J
-Khal vs UVA
-Loo vs UVA in winners bracket or elimination game
3. Swap Purdue and Loo to have your best pitcher vs UVA while still taking STJ seriously
-Loo vs St J
-Khal vs UVA
-Auger/Dohm/Pico
KOdawg1
05-27-2024, 01:05 PM
I lean towards option 2, but I understand why we'll probably choose option 1
DEDawg
05-27-2024, 01:17 PM
Option 2 but I can see the logic in 1
HoopsDawg
05-27-2024, 01:18 PM
Some years it's debatable. Not this year. Only interesting scenario is who to pitch Game 3 if we lose Game 2.
Quaoarsking
05-27-2024, 01:18 PM
I don't think there's enough difference between the pitchers to vary it.
Stephen vs. St. John's
Loo vs. Virginia (hopefully)
Auger against whoever is next
Kohn if we need a game 4
?? if we need a game 5
If beat St. John's and face Penn, still pitch Loo in game 2
If we lose to St. John's and face Virginia, still pitch Loo in game 2
If we lose to St. John's and face Penn, probably pitch Kohn or someone and save Auger and Loo for later.
basedog
05-27-2024, 01:30 PM
Go with 1, 2 and then 3. We aren't good enough to over think. You play to win the game and it starts with the first one.
Coach34
05-27-2024, 01:55 PM
Yeah I’m all for keeping it the same- especially with the way Auger, Pico, and Dohm have been throwing
BigDawg81
05-27-2024, 03:14 PM
I see 3 options:
1. Keep everything the same and just roll.
-Purdue vs. St John's
-Loo vs Virginia
-Auger/Dohm/Pico to finish the job
2. Work backwards to give yourself a better chance to close it out
-Auger vs St. J
-Khal vs UVA
-Loo vs UVA in winners bracket or elimination game
3. Swap Purdue and Loo to have your best pitcher vs UVA while still taking STJ seriously
-Loo vs St J
-Khal vs UVA
-Auger/Dohm/Pico
Stay in the winners bracket so I?m okay with Khal/ Loo/ Auger or Kohn
maroonmania
05-27-2024, 03:26 PM
Games 1 and 2 are key in the 4 team regional so you have to pitch your best 2 to stay out of the loser's bracket. I think we should keep the rotation as is so Option 1 for me. If we were a #1 playing a #4 you might could consider changing something but not playing a #3.
Churchill
05-27-2024, 03:35 PM
Make our "hitters" give them at least a little help !!!
DownwardDawg
05-27-2024, 03:48 PM
Option 1
MetEdDawg
05-27-2024, 04:10 PM
Keep it the same. Auger did great the other day but that was an anomaly. If he screws the pooch the bullpen is torched.
Stephen and Loo have to pitch. If you win both, and you can't win one of 2 with Auger and Pico, you don't deserve to go on.
Commercecomet24
05-27-2024, 04:19 PM
I would be tempted to go option 2, but I'd keep it the same. Starting pitching has been excellent so don't mess with it.
Todd4State
05-27-2024, 04:20 PM
I don't think this team can afford to play around and overthink anything. Go with Stephen, Loo, and then Auger. If we need him for a game four go with Pico.
We have Tyler Davis, Hardin, Dohm, and Schuelke in the bullpen. And Gavin Black for maybe an inning.
I like where we stand.
parabrave
05-27-2024, 05:43 PM
Go with 1, 2 and then 3. We aren't good enough to over think. You play to win the game and it starts with the first one.
This all day long. Anything else is trying to prove to smart you think you are.
Leroy Jenkins
05-27-2024, 05:47 PM
Does UVA throw off in their game, save their #1 for us?
Option 2. Loo and Kahl are the only two I trust not to grenade our bullpen in game 1.
Homedawg
05-27-2024, 06:39 PM
I lean towards option 2, but I understand why we'll probably choose option 1
Option 1,3. 2 is just asking for it. The whole key is win the first 2 games. Option 2 gives you a great shot to lose game 1. Then it's over.
DawgFromOxford
05-27-2024, 06:46 PM
Don't think we have the pen to work through a losers bracket so I'd play every game like its an elimination game. Through your best arm you have that day and take it 1 game at a time.
Tbonewannabe
05-27-2024, 08:29 PM
I would go Loo against St Johns and Stephen against Virginia. I doubt Virginia throws their 1 against a bad Penn team. We need Khal against Virginia.
Cooterpoot
05-27-2024, 08:34 PM
You leave the rotation alone. Lose game one and you're done with our lacking pen. St John's already handled FL and has some good wins.
Todd4State
05-27-2024, 11:05 PM
Don't think we have the pen to work through a losers bracket so I'd play every game like its an elimination game. Through your best arm you have that day and take it 1 game at a time.
A regional should be easier on our pitching staff than the SEC Tournament. The only real issue we have with our bullpen is we can really only use Dohm once probably.
My game plan would be to go with Stephen in game one and hope he can give us his typical 6-7 innings and then go with Hardin and Davis.
For game 2 Loo usually only goes about 6 so I would unleash Dohm at this point if we are ahead. Might have to steal an inning with Davis because I'm not sure if Dohm can go three.
Game three is Auger and all hands on deck. I'm not sure that we can expect him to be Greg Maddux 2.0 again and the issue with him is that he is going to max out at 80 pitches probably.
We're going to need Schuelke and Black to step up.
As always it is all situational. If we're way up in the first game we need to save Hardin and Davis if we can.
The Federalist Engineer
05-28-2024, 12:12 AM
What would Skip Bertman do...
Pitch CJ versus St Johns
Pitch Stephen versus UVA
Pitch Pico versus UVA
Head to Fayetteville. CJ is not dominant yet as a collegiate. You must use the All-SEC guy versus UVA.
UVA's pitching is not great, so if need a 4th game, still have Auger and Dohm.
Haven't looked at UVA's Left/Right mix of hitters but they hit RHP for a 343 average and LHP for 320 average. But hit for more Power on LHP.
Tbonewannabe
05-28-2024, 07:15 AM
What would Skip Bertman do...
Pitch CJ versus St Johns
Pitch Stephen versus UVA
Pitch Pico versus UVA
Head to Fayetteville. CJ is not dominant yet as a collegiate. You must use the All-SEC guy versus UVA.
UVA's pitching is not great, so if need a 4th game, still have Auger and Dohm.
Haven't looked at UVA's Left/Right mix of hitters but they hit RHP for a 343 average and LHP for 320 average. But hit for more Power on LHP.
This is what I think. You have to save Stephen for UVA game 2. They are going to have a cake walk with Penn who has a losing record. Go Loo in game 1. Yes, we can't go into the losers bracket but the big game is UVA.
shoeless joe
05-28-2024, 08:23 AM
i go CJ game one stephen game 2. but i'm fine with going status quo. gotta win the first two.
basedog
05-28-2024, 08:45 AM
I just don't see a lot of difference in CJ and Khal, maybe Khal with a very slight edge. But regardless we need to win the first two games and I have confidence in both, but we gotten clutch hit.
Todd4State
05-28-2024, 09:39 AM
I just don't see a lot of difference in CJ and Khal, maybe Khal with a very slight edge. But regardless we need to win the first two games and I have confidence in both, but we gotten clutch hit.
The biggest difference is Khal is more efficient.
Cooterpoot
05-28-2024, 10:01 AM
I'm far less concerned with our pitching than our hitting. Pitching good enough, it's the damn hitting that's putrid right now.
Bdawg
05-28-2024, 10:02 AM
Option 1. Our bats are cold as ice. We can?t afford to chance it with the way we are hitting. If we were smashing the ball, I may be tempted but still probably not.
StarkVegasSteve
05-28-2024, 11:31 AM
What I wish we could do:
Auger
Stephen
Cjintje
What I imagine we will do:
Cjintje
Stephen
Auger
Leroy Jenkins
05-28-2024, 05:14 PM
I just don't see a lot of difference in CJ and Khal, maybe Khal with a very slight edge. But regardless we need to win the first two games and I have confidence in both, but we gotten clutch hit.
Yeah. Loo has more talent but Kahl has the edge in polish and experience.
DawgFromOxford
05-28-2024, 05:48 PM
Yeah. Loo has more talent but Kahl has the edge in polish and experience.
Loo always seem to have that one inning that gets away from him a little bit
Offshore Dawg
05-29-2024, 08:50 AM
I'm far less concerned with our pitching than our hitting. Pitching good enough, it's the damn hitting that's putrid right now.
Much truth to this statement !!
State82
05-29-2024, 09:37 AM
Pitching good enough, it's the damn hitting that's putrid right now.
You are being kind in defining the hitting as "putrid".
GoDawgz
05-29-2024, 09:42 AM
I'm far less concerned with our pitching than our hitting. Pitching good enough, it's the damn hitting that's putrid right now.
This right here!
Unless someone sticks a red hot coal in the rear end of 42 and 44.... pitching rotation probably wont be an issue!
StarkVegasSteve
05-29-2024, 04:02 PM
This right here!
Unless someone sticks a red hot coal in the rear end of 42 and 44.... pitching rotation probably wont be an issue!
Way less worried about 42 than 44. 42 just needed to see one find a hole. And he hit 3 on the damn screws in Hoover that'd be 60 ft out of UVA's ballpark.
The Federalist Engineer
05-29-2024, 04:44 PM
What I wish we could do:
Auger
Stephen
Cjintje
What I imagine we will do:
Cjintje
Stephen
Auger
Auger-Stephen-JC is the smart play
(1) Virginia feels like they owe us a beating for two big post season TKOs
(2) O'Conner probably wakes up screaming for pitching to Tanner Allen with a RH sidewinder a few years ago
(3) John Grisham is acting like bitch and calling O'Connor about MSU coming to town
(4) UVA is going to absolutely save the two best arms for MSU
(5) If you don't use Auger on St John, you are using Auger on UVA during a much bigger game
(6) Auger is pitching very well, Ole Miss during a make or break pitcher duel was a harder opponent than St John
HoopsDawg
05-29-2024, 04:52 PM
Surprised there is debate. Clearly Khal-Lo-Auger-Kohn
GoDawgz
05-30-2024, 09:31 AM
[QUOTE=StarkVegasSteve;1605293]Way less worried about 42 than 44. 42 just needed to see one find a hole. And he hit 3 on the damn screws in Hoover that'd be 60 ft out of UVA's ballpark.[/QUOTE
I hope they get it figured out quick!
It only takes one clean line drive in the gap to get a good hitter back on track and seeing the ball good again.
Commercecomet24
05-30-2024, 10:23 AM
Khal starting game 1, official. Let's GO!
Commercecomet24
05-30-2024, 10:24 AM
Way less worried about 42 than 44. 42 just needed to see one find a hole. And he hit 3 on the damn screws in Hoover that'd be 60 ft out of UVA's ballpark.
Yeah while DJ still has holes in his swing he hit 3 balls in the sect that would've more than likely been hrs or xbh in 90% of the parks we play in. Hines is just not hitting anything hard at all right now and can't pickup spin at all.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2024, 10:36 AM
Khal starting game 1, official. Let's GO!
It's a risk either way you look at it. I would have preferred to hold Khal for UVA, but maybe we feel Cjintje can handle their lineup better. Their stats are very similar. Far more similar than I thought they would be.
Commercecomet24
05-30-2024, 10:39 AM
It's a risk either way you look at it. Maybe we feel Khal can go 7-8 and Cjintje can only go 4-6 so we're going to need our bullpen more with Cjintje.
I agree and this is probably the best play for us. No reason to leave anything to chance because we have to stay in the winners bracket.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2024, 10:42 AM
I agree and this is probably the best play for us. No reason to leave anything to chance because we have to stay in the winners bracket.
Yea after looking I actually went back and altered my answer. I didn't realize that Stephen and Cjintje had such similar stats. It's probably just a matchup thing.
Commercecomet24
05-30-2024, 10:52 AM
Yea after looking I actually went back and altered my answer. I didn't realize that Stephen and Cjintje had such similar stats. It's probably just a matchup thing.
Our pitching(especially our starters) give us a great chance to win in a short series. I like our chances in the first 2, provided we score a few runs, lol.
StarkVegasSteve
05-30-2024, 11:23 AM
Our pitching(especially our starters) give us a great chance to win in a short series. I like our chances in the first 2, provided we score a few runs, lol.
I think we could beat St. Johns with 3 or 4. Virginia could take 6 or 7 to beat unless Cjintje shuts them down.
DawgFromOxford
05-30-2024, 11:27 AM
Do 7 inning run rules apply during regionals or is that just an SEC deal?
The Federalist Engineer
05-30-2024, 12:16 PM
Do 7 inning run rules apply during regionals or is that just an SEC deal?
Last year UF beat LSU 24-5 in game 2 and that game went 9 innings No mercy
Tbonewannabe
05-31-2024, 08:59 AM
I think we could beat St. Johns with 3 or 4. Virginia could take 6 or 7 to beat unless Cjintje shuts them down.
I was thinking go to Khal against UVA since they are the better hitting team. I would rather have to get 2-3 innings out of the bullpen against the best hitting team instead of Loo which puts at least one more inning out of the pen.
I have faith in both but we will be lucky to get 6 out of Loo. I will say maybe they like the Loo match up since he gets more strike outs.
StarkVegasSteve
05-31-2024, 09:16 AM
I was thinking go to Khal against UVA since they are the better hitting team. I would rather have to get 2-3 innings out of the bullpen against the best hitting team instead of Loo which puts at least one more inning out of the pen.
I have faith in both but we will be lucky to get 6 out of Loo. I will say maybe they like the Loo match up since he gets more strike outs.
The biggest thing with Cjintje is keeping the pitch count down. In his last few starts he elevates his pitch count too early. Case and point, Arkansas. He threw 4.1 and was really good, but he threw 104 pitches in that 4.1 innings. It needs to be like Vandy where he went 6 and only threw 88. Or Mizzou where he went 7 and threw 95.
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