Hosts are 1-8 in RPI, 11-15, 18, 22, and 31

[Quaoarsking]

So not as strictly by RPI as in the last few years.

1 Tennessee
2 Texas A&M
3 Kentucky
4 North Carolina
5 Arkansas
6 Georgia
7 Clemson
8 Florida State
9 Wake Forest
10 Indiana State
11 Oklahoma State
12 Virginia
13 UC Santa Barbara
14 Oklahoma
15 NC State
16 Duke
17 Dallas Baptist
18 Oregon State
19 San Diego
20 Vanderbilt
21 South Carolina
22 East Carolina
23 LSU
24 Alabama
25 Mississippi State
26 Southern Miss
27 UC Irvine
28 Nebraska
29 Louisiana Tech
30 Florida
31 Arizona

[BeardoMSU]

Gotta be geography, then.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Time to go into FU mode. I hope we embarrass Godwin on his own MF field. Rub his GD face in the MF dirt. 17 that sorry sack of horseshit. Run rule their 17 ass

[Mjoelner34]

Gotta be geography, then.

How do you explain NC, NC State and ECU then?

[Quaoarsking]

Arizona was 3-9 in Q1 games, compared to our 16-14.

I was fully prepared not to be mad because I thought our RPI eliminated us. But now that we know that it didn't, WTF committee??

[Ranchdawg]

Well damn! I said it earlier that we NEVER get breaks go our way when it comes to our own conference and especially the NCCA. As others said don’t schedule ridiculous weak out of conference teams and especially don’t lose to them.

[CaptainObvious]

Well damn! I said it earlier that we NEVER get breaks go our way when it comes to our own conference and especially the NCCA. As others said don’t schedule ridiculous weak out of conference teams and especially don’t lose to them.

And I said it earlier. This OOC schedule was set up to save Lemonis's ass. He did just enough in SEC play to overcome the inability to get his team to play worth a crap in mid-week games. But this tells me State woul had to at least play today if not win today to get a host!

[Coach34]

Well damn! I said it earlier that we NEVER get breaks go our way when it comes to our own conference and especially the NCCA. As others said don’t schedule ridiculous weak out of conference teams and especially don’t lose to them.

Arizona is hosting with a 31 RPI. The schedule really didn’t matter- the bad losses did

[HoopsDawg]

Well damn! I said it earlier that we NEVER get breaks go our way when it comes to our own conference and especially the NCCA. As others said don’t schedule ridiculous weak out of conference teams and especially don’t lose to them.

SEC teams have a huge advantage when it comes to RPI. The committee looked at our non-conference schedule and results and said...nah. It sucks because postseason at The Dude is good for college baseball. But we dropped too many 1 run games. Now we just have to hope we dodge Tenn and Arkansas.

[Hypnodawg]

So attendance, atmosphere, stadium size mean jack s***. I don't want to hear any of that b******* in the future

[Coach34]

We have more Q1 wins than Arizona played

Arizona SOS is 31- ours is 14

[Coach34]

So attendance, atmosphere, stadium size mean jack s***. I don't want to hear any of that b******* in the future

Exactly

[Coach34]

SEC teams have a huge advantage when it comes to RPI. The committee looked at our non-conference schedule and results and said...nah. It sucks because postseason at The Dude is good for college baseball. But we dropped too many 1 run games. Now we just have to hope we dodge Tenn and Arkansas.

Arizona is 3-9 in Q1 games.

We won 16

Schedule didn’t matter- the 2-3 bad losses did

[PGHBulldogBG]

If we split with Austin Peay and beat Central Arkansas we are hosting. Those two teams did us in.

[Saltydog]

Geography matters.

[SaintDawg]

17’em. We play better with a chip on our shoulder anyway. Hines and Jordan need a chip on each shoulder.

[Quaoarsking]

Ultimately we just don't know what the committee would have decided in a hypothetical scenario because there's no consistency in what they did pick. RPI mattered a lot (13 sites are in the top 15 in RPI) but in a few cases it didn't. Winning the conference mattered except when it didn't. Geography matters, except they left the only Northern team out of hosting despite a top 10 RPI.

[Cooterpoot]

Stop playing a shit OOC schedule

[Todd4State]

East Carolina's AD is on the committee. We got ****ed over. Period.

[Commercecomet24]

Ultimately we just don't know what the committee would have decided in a hypothetical scenario because there's no consistency in what they did pick. RPI mattered a lot (13 sites are in the top 15 in RPI) but in a few cases it didn't. Winning the conference mattered except when it didn't. Geography matters, except they left the only Northern team out of hosting despite a top 10 RPI.

This. The logic for selecting the top 16 is all over the place. You're 100% correct and I guarantee you the committee can't really give a straight answer on the selection process. Doesn't really make sense.

[Todd4State]

Stop playing a shit OOC schedule

More like win the games on the shit OOC schedule.

[redstickdawg]

Arizona is 3-9 in Q1 games.

We won 16

Schedule didn’t matter- the 2-3 bad losses did

BS, I think that this is strictly politics trying to get the folks on the left coast teams to look at, a 31 RPI if f****ing ridiculous as a host team. some others I could see but a #31 is totally BS as is #22 screwed over a lot of better teams.

[ZedFedder]

Time to go prove them wrong.

[Quaoarsking]

BS, I think that this is strictly politics trying to get the folks on the left coast teams to look at, a 31 RPI if f****ing ridiculous as a host team. some others I could see but a #31 is totally BS as is #22 screwed over a lot of better teams.

If all they were doing is balancing out the geography, they would have included the only Northern candidate (#10 Indiana State), and they would have picked San Diego (#19) over Arizona (#31).

I think the committee is just a bunch of morons who didn't put much thought into it, rather than anything sinister.

[Todd4State]

Ultimately we just don't know what the committee would have decided in a hypothetical scenario because there's no consistency in what they did pick. RPI mattered a lot (13 sites are in the top 15 in RPI) but in a few cases it didn't. Winning the conference mattered except when it didn't. Geography matters, except they left the only Northern team out of hosting despite a top 10 RPI.

It's very evident that the committee was looking out for their own interests if you are looking for a theme.

[HoopsDawg]

More like win the games on the shit OOC schedule.

It's both. But Lemonis did us no favors with that schedule. Hilarious that you and 34 can't admit that. I told you last night we wouldn't be hosting.

[CaptainObvious]

Well damn! I said it earlier that we NEVER get breaks go our way when it comes to our own conference and especially the NCCA. As others said don’t schedule ridiculous weak out of conference teams and especially don’t lose to them.

Let's see how much geography factors when they place teams tomorrow. If the send any southern team other then Grambling to Santa Clara, it wasn't about geography.

[ScooterDog]

Who all are on the Committee? Anybody know?

[State82]

I think the committee is just a bunch of morons who didn't put much thought into it, rather than anything sinister.

Well it was a moronic selection process for sure.

[maroonmania]

More like win the games on the shit OOC schedule.

Pretty obvious that a few bad losses mean way more to the committee than a bunch of high quality wins. Best thing is not to risk having the opportunity for having more than one or two really bad losses.

[Offshore Dawg]

Let's see how much geography factors when they place teams tomorrow. If the send any southern team other then Grambling to Santa Clara, it wasn't about geography.
Can Grambling afford to get to Santa Clara.

[maroonmania]

If we split with Austin Peay and beat Central Arkansas we are hosting. Those two teams did us in.

Yes, it's now clear that low RPI early season and midweek games are actually more impactful than how you do in your league and Q1 games. And also that KPI is irrelevant.

[Bdawg]

Arizona is 3-9 in Q1 games.

We won 16

Schedule didn?t matter- the 2-3 bad losses did

Our quad one wins should out way those bad losses when being compared to Arizona. That is just total ****ing joke. I could understand if it was somebody else, but not Arizona. Committee can go F itself.

[Coach34]

It's both. But Lemonis did us no favors with that schedule. Hilarious that you and 34 can't admit that. I told you last night we wouldn't be hosting.

You have yet to explain to me how scheduling tougher and losing more games would have helped us??? We are all waiting

We have already explained to you that 2-3 of those bad losses cost us.

[Coach34]

Who all are on the Committee? Anybody know?

Loafers
East Carolina AD
Fla St AD
Guy at SE La
Another couple of Mid Major guys

[Cooterpoot]

You have yet to explain to me how scheduling tougher and losing more games would have helped us??? We are all waiting

We have already explained to you that 2-3 of those bad losses cost us.

How bout we actually be Miss State baseball and schedule well AND 17ing win. Lemonis is scared to schedule with his ass on the block. He'll get fired in two years. He can't recruit

[TheLostDawg]

If we split with Austin Peay and beat Central Arkansas we are hosting. Those two teams did us in.

Loss to usa didn't help either

[Todd4State]

It's both. But Lemonis did us no favors with that schedule. Hilarious that you and 34 can't admit that. I told you last night we wouldn't be hosting.

Good for you asshole. Guess what? Still waiting on you "we should have scheduled harder" people to tell me where the crystal ball is that will tell us what everyone's RPI is going to be. As it is we lost to an Air Force team that won their conference and an Austin Peay team that won their conference and a top 60 Georgia Southern team that made it to the Sun Belt finals. All of them are better than Arkansas State I assure you.

[Todd4State]

Pretty obvious that a few bad losses mean way more to the committee than a bunch of high quality wins. Best thing is not to risk having the opportunity for having more than one or two really bad losses.

You can't come to that conclusion when you have Tennessee winning a National Seed with a worse SOS than us and a worse OOC SOS than us. Oh and they lost to Queens.

The data simply doesn't support that.

And so why should WE have to schedule harder than everyone else to get the same reward that everyone else gets for scheduling easier?

Also our RPI dropped after we played Tennessee- actually dropped more than it did for playing and beating North Alabama.

[Quaoarsking]

We shouldn't "have" to schedule smarter, we just should have anyway. Don't look at it as a negative, a knock on Lemonis. (Does he even make the schedule anyway? I would have assumed it was some athletic staffer.)

Look at it as a positive - we should be manipulating our schedule to gain an advantage. Instead of having an RPI that's beneath our general perception/ranking (perceived as a top 16 team despite some bad losses), we should have tried to rig up a resume that would make our RPI better than our poll ranking. It would be one thing if we tried to do that and it just didn't work out. It clearly wasn't a priority at all. Don't we all try to get every advantage we can in life?

[Todd4State]

It's also really hard to say that our schedule was the main issue when we got shafted by a team with a RPI of 31 which is only one better than Ole Miss which had a losing record this year and only had Q1 wins.

Everyone is focusing on ECU but I've never heard of a team hosting with a RPI of 31 before like Arizona.

[Quaoarsking]

It's also really hard to say that our schedule was the main issue when we got shafted by a team with a RPI of 31 which is only one better than Ole Miss which had a losing record this year and only had Q1 wins.

Everyone is focusing on ECU but I've never heard of a team hosting with a RPI of 31 before like Arizona.

That much is true. Who knows if the committee would have cared if we had scheduled or way into an RPI in the teens OR if we had won our way into an RPI in the teens with this schedule.

They just made up who they wanted to host without any rhyme or reason.

[HoopsDawg]

How bout we actually be Miss State baseball and schedule well AND 17ing win. Lemonis is scared to schedule with his ass on the block. He'll get fired in two years. He can't recruit

A-MEN

[Todd4State]

We shouldn't "have" to schedule smarter, we just should have anyway. Don't look at it as a negative, a knock on Lemonis. (Does he even make the schedule anyway? I would have assumed it was some athletic staffer.)

Look at it as a positive - we should be manipulating our schedule to gain an advantage. Instead of having an RPI that's beneath our general perception/ranking (perceived as a top 16 team despite some bad losses), we should have tried to rig up a resume that would make our RPI better than our poll ranking. It would be one thing if we tried to do that and it just didn't work out. It clearly wasn't a priority at all. Don't we all try to get every advantage we can in life?

Do you think we don't do that? You're acting like there is a sure fire way to predict RPI and there simply is not. Three of our Q4 losses are to teams that won their conference. What else do you want MSU to do? We could have easily gotten burned by Arkansas State or Northwestern State had we LOST to them. It's the same result just a different team.

Our fans looked at our schedule and didn't see any brand name PAC 12, Big 12, or ACC teams and came up with this narrative that we drummed up this easy schedule to save Lemonis.

And by your own admission in this thread the committee clearly didn't factor in RPI like years before which is another factor that is completely unknown. There is no way to know what the committee will do from one year to the next. And they don't always announce what they plan on doing either.

[Todd4State]

A-MEN

Yeah- you two would have been really impressed had we scheduled Northwestern State and Arkansas State like others have suggested. L.O.L.

[Quaoarsking]

Yeah- you two would have been really impressed had we scheduled Northwestern State and Arkansas State like others have suggested. L.O.L.

Yes? I've have been saying for over a decade (including basketball back when it used RPI) that we should be optimizing our schedule for RPI, not for "good games" or "easy wins." I don't know if you're confusing me with someone else, but I've never advocated playing a bunch of power 5 games, it's always been "use metrics to predict how good teams are going to be, and also predict how a win or loss to those teams helps or hurts your RPI, and look for exploits." Remember when Siena always had a great RPI in basketball for several years, despite never seeming like they were playing a very hard schedule? That was inspirational. If we had played teams like Arkansas State and Northwestern State, I never would have criticized the schedule.

[Quaoarsking]

Note: D1B is creating their mock bracket live on Twitter right now:

https://twitter.com/d1baseball/status/1794903254738043137

[Todd4State]

Yes? I've have been saying for over a decade (including basketball back when it used RPI) that we should be optimizing our schedule for RPI, not for "good games" or "easy wins." I don't know if you're confusing me with someone else, but I've never advocated playing a bunch of power 5 games, it's always been "use metrics to predict how good teams are going to be, and also predict how a win or loss to those teams helps or hurts your RPI, and look for exploits." Remember when Siena always had a great RPI in basketball for several years, despite never seeming like they were playing a very hard schedule? That was inspirational. If we had played teams like Arkansas State and Northwestern State, I never would have criticized the schedule.

I know you haven't said that and I get that you aren't saying that. I was also talking to Hoops and Cooter.

[SilentSteel16]

Any bets on LSU going to Arizona because of Johnson? If so they get a super regional

[BuckyIsAB****]

Raise your hand if you are remembering the lemonis will do just enough to save his Job posts

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Who was the team the last week of the season we didn't cancel the game due to threats of not hosting? Looking back, maybe we should've done it anyway since we didn't get the benefit of the doubt.

[The Federalist Engineer]

If the D1 projection is right, we could host a Super Regional and face LSU for Omaha.

We better put-in a bid for the Super, ASAP.

MSU will smoke right through NC State and LSU will stomp through Clemson. So, who hosts the Super between #2 MSU and #2 LSU?

The Super will probably be worth more economically as an event than the regular Regional. You rather have both, of course.

[Cooterpoot]

If the D1 projection is right, we could host a Super Regional and face LSU for Omaha.

We better put-in a bid for the Super, ASAP.

MSU will smoke right through NC State and LSU will stomp through Clemson. So, who hosts the Super between #2 MSU and #2 LSU?

The Super will probably be worth more economically as an event than the regular Regional. You rather have both, of course.

NC State and LSU both got hot late in the season. That would be a really rough draw.

[MetEdDawg]

Does anyone have an idea of what our RPI would be had we not lost the game we did to Air Force and one of the games to Austin Peay?

People forget we were missing Mershon and Kohler in both those games. Win those or any of the 1 run conference games we lost and I feel like we might not be in this position.

[Todd4State]

Does anyone have an idea of what our RPI would be had we not lost the game we did to Air Force and one of the games to Austin Peay?

People forget we were missing Mershon and Kohler in both those games. Win those or any of the 1 run conference games we lost and I feel like we might not be in this position.

How about what our RPI would be had we not lost game two against Georgia?

Although looking at the selections I don't think RPI mattered all that much.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Does anyone have an idea of what our RPI would be had we not lost the game we did to Air Force and one of the games to Austin Peay?

People forget we were missing Mershon and Kohler in both those games. Win those or any of the 1 run conference games we lost and I feel like we might not be in this position.

The Johnny Long little league tantrums were way worse. MSU with 19 SEC wins vs UGA with 16 wins would have been a slam dunk host. Yeah those OOC loses were big too.

[The Federalist Engineer]

NC State and LSU both got hot late in the season. That would be a really rough draw.

You are not playing many non Hot teams right now. Other than Arkansas, TAM, and Kentucky all the other folks look super tough.