Demonte Russell-sucker punch

[HaggardDawg]

https://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2024/05/msu-football-player-accused-of-sucker.html

Allegedly sucker punched a 150lb guy at Two Brothers causing a brain bleed. He admitted to it in a message to the victim. We need DEs but this is unacceptable and should be kicked out of the school immediately.

[Pinto]

If the attorney is trying to get out in front of this and win in the court of public opinion, then there is way more to the story. Additionally, the message sent by the player says he just wanted to talk. This shows they obviously had an issue and it popped off.

Should the player face charges and be in trouble, yes. However, every time something is put out like this, the back story has way more info.

[99jc]

Maybe the 150lb guy needed a punch.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

Maybe the 150lb guy needed a punch.

That is not how the law works I do not think. Unless Russell was acting in self defense I do not think you can punch someone. So if Russell punched him because the little guy was acting stupid, Russell is still liable. You cannot assault people simply because you think “they need it”. I can name at least 1000 people that need killing. But law will not let me kill them. I am not a lawyer however.

[Activated Alpha]

Nah, unless he was preventing the student from abducting a child or it was in complete self defense, he needs be kicked off the team and arrested. Reading on the injuries, they are serious enough he needed to be transferred out to Memphis. He will have long acting effects from a head bleed in his frontal cortex not to mention bulging discs that could require surgery. Unfortunately our football player did not keep his cool and needs to experience the consequences

[Pinto]

He fell and hit the concrete which caused the bulk of the injuries. Don?t act like it was some massive assault. It was one punch.

Also if the punch would have been thrown by a frat bro, white guy, or non football player, or if he had hit another black student; would we be hearing about it at all? Would the lawyer have written and op Ed in the paper? Would we have all the clutching of pearls outrage?



Nah, unless he was preventing the student from abducting a child or it was in complete self defense, he needs be kicked off the team and arrested. Reading on the injuries, they are serious enough he needed to be transferred out to Memphis. He will have long acting effects from a head bleed in his frontal cortex not to mention bulging discs that could require surgery. Unfortunately our football player did not keep his cool and needs to experience the consequences

[Activated Alpha]

He fell and hit the concrete which caused the bulk of the injuries. Don?t act like it was some massive assault. It was one punch.

Also if the punch would have been thrown by a frat bro, white guy, or non football player, or if he had hit another black student; would we be hearing about it at all? Would the lawyer have written and op Ed in the paper? Would we have all the clutching of pearls outrage?

Oh ok so if all the witnesses said he just fell and hit his on the concrete and that it wasn?t the result of being knocked unconscious by Russell?s punch then yeah there is no need to have him arrested. However, we both know that is not the case. And yes, if the dude was white, black, or purple it would not matter

[Walkerhill]

Some coaches may have leeway on how to handle this kind of thing - how Dan Mullen handled the Jeffrey Simmons high school incident, for example. But the spotlight has gotten even brighter and fair or not the media will be eager to jump on Lebby given his closeness to the Baylor train wreck.

Lebby has no leeway and can allow no hint or perception of an undisciplined locker room. He knows this and every player should have known also.

[RiverCityDawg]

He fell and hit the concrete which caused the bulk of the injuries. Don?t act like it was some massive assault. It was one punch.

Also if the punch would have been thrown by a frat bro, white guy, or non football player, or if he had hit another black student; would we be hearing about it at all? Would the lawyer have written and op Ed in the paper? Would we have all the clutching of pearls outrage?

Well known people committing crimes gets more attention than random nobodies committing crimes, news at 11.

And the lawyer didn't write an op Ed in the paper, he wrote a letter to the DA and a copy of the letter was put in a blog.

And yeah I would think if Russell sucker punched a black kid causing the same injuries we would still hear about it.

Lastly, maybe you should add more hypotheticals to your list... Would Russell have sucker punched a black kid the way he did this white kid? Or would he have sucker punched him if the kid weighed 250 instead of 150?

[Todd4State]

Since when is hitting someone that's facing you a "sucker punch"?

[Saltydog]

I don't give a shit what may or may not have happened immediately prior to the incident Russell should be charged and suspended from the team, if not expelled.

[RiverCityDawg]

Since when is hitting someone that's facing you a "sucker punch"?

Do we know he was facing him?

That aside, I would say if neither person has their hands up and all the sudden one person slugs the other seemingly out of nowhere it's still a sucker punch even if they're facing one another. I'm not saying that's was happened just that facing each other doesn't automatically mean it's not a sucker punch.

Again, I wasn't there so I don't know, but common sense says a 150lb political science frat boy named "Trace" was not squaring up with 6-4 280 football player.

[DownwardDawg]

He fell and hit the concrete which caused the bulk of the injuries. Don?t act like it was some massive assault. It was one punch.

Also if the punch would have been thrown by a frat bro, white guy, or non football player, or if he had hit another black student; would we be hearing about it at all? Would the lawyer have written and op Ed in the paper? Would we have all the clutching of pearls outrage?

One punch is all it takes to kill somebody. If you don't realize this, then you don't keep up with any news these days. It happens all the time and the "puncher" is almost always convicted of something very serious.

He's in big trouble, as he should be.

[HogsandDogs]

He fell and hit the concrete which caused the bulk of the injuries. Don?t act like it was some massive assault. It was one punch.

Also if the punch would have been thrown by a frat bro, white guy, or non football player, or if he had hit another black student; would we be hearing about it at all? Would the lawyer have written and op Ed in the paper? Would we have all the clutching of pearls outrage?

No, we likely would not be hearing about it, but the criminal and civil legal issues for the alleged attacker would be the same if not more on the criminal side.

Russel made a mistake, and he is paying for it.

[Todd4State]

Do we know he was facing him?

That aside, I would say if neither person has their hands up and all the sudden one person slugs the other seemingly out of nowhere it's still a sucker punch even if they're facing one another. I'm not saying that's was happened just that facing each other doesn't automatically mean it's not a sucker punch.

Again, I wasn't there so I don't know, but common sense says a 150lb political science frat boy named "Trace" was not squaring up with 6-4 280 football player.

I don't know either but I will say I do know some frat boys that would have been dumb enough to try to kick some linebacker's ass.

[DownwardDawg]

I just read it. He's going to jail.
I hope his victim recovers fully.

[civildawg]

I just read it. He's going to jail.
I hope his victim recovers fully.

Obviously if what is alleged is true, he needs to be put in jail and at a minimum kicked off the team and school

[BrunswickDawg]

Do we know he was facing him?

That aside, I would say if neither person has their hands up and all the sudden one person slugs the other seemingly out of nowhere it's still a sucker punch even if they're facing one another. I'm not saying that's was happened just that facing each other doesn't automatically mean it's not a sucker punch.

Again, I wasn't there so I don't know, but common sense says a 150lb political science frat boy named "Trace" was not squaring up with 6-4 280 football player.

I can think of at least a dozen times I saw dumb frat boys try to square up with baseball players, basketball players, or football players that were way larger. It was called Thursday night at The Landing. Hell, bid night my freshman year I saw a 5'8" drunk dumbass try to square up on Sleepy and 3 offensive lineman in parking lot. They laughed at his ass, but he still tried.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I don't know either but I will say I do know some frat boys that would have been dumb enough to try to kick some linebacker's ass.

Garrett Schaefer was in a frat?

[PGHBulldogBG]

I am a bit confused here. If this happened almost 2 weeks ago it’s strange we are just seeing this now. When I google this incident I am not finding anything. Obviously if what he did is true then he needs to be sent to jail and expelled, but it seems odd this happened awhile ago and we are just seeing it now. Usually this stuff if brought front and center news right away

[archdog]

All that hard work for years and dumb ass jeopardized all of it for a one second, ?I?ll show you? moment. 150 lb dude endangered him zero. What a weak ass dude.

[Jarius]

I assume this frat boy has a trust fund and a job lined up by his daddy, because his name is about to get drug through the mud and he's about to get painted as a racist, big time. I don't know if he actually said racist things or not, but that's the card that's about to be played and the groundwork for that has been floating around for about a week now.

[Coach34]

This is the age of cell phone video. Somebody has what happened on their phone and that will show whether he needs serious discipline or not.

[Dawgface]

I don't give a shit what may or may not have happened immediately prior to the incident Russell should be charged and suspended from the team, if not expelled.

Expelled.

[Coach34]

I can think of at least a dozen times I saw dumb frat boys try to square up with baseball players, basketball players, or football players that were way larger. It was called Thursday night at The Landing. Hell, bid night my freshman year I saw a 5'8" drunk dumbass try to square up on Sleepy and 3 offensive lineman in parking lot. They laughed at his ass, but he still tried.

We have poster on here that's hit a frat guy so hard the other 10 frat guys with him backed away and decided they didnt want any of the medicine he was handing out. Idiots get that liquid courage in them and think they are suddenly a world ranked boxer. Reality hurts when stupidity leads you somewhere you dont belong

[Brobi-wan]

What kind of moron squares up on a DE?

[starkvegasdawg]

I have no idea what transpired that night. The first I heard about it was reading it on our boards so I have no sources or inside info on any of it. I'm just really hoping there's more to it than that article. I do know a lawyer's job is to paint his client as innocent and perfect angel as there ever has been, and the other person as someone so evil Satan himself is scared to be around him. The truth is usually somewhere in between, and I hope that is the case here. But if he truly was out there playing eenie, meenie, miney, mo your ass is about to hit the floor then good riddance. But if the frat boy was full of Southern Comfort and Taaka vodka and talking shit and let some words fly then that might change the complexion of things. All I'm saying is before I join the pitchfork and torch mob marching on the Bryan Building I at least want try and here the whole story.

[Brobi-wan]

There’s always more to these stories. Frat bros are the most annoying people on campus. That’s saying a lot. Not saying the kid deserved the brain bleed. There’s just consequences to actions. Just hope we get the full story and the right decision is made no matter which way this goes.

[Bdawg]

I have no idea what transpired that night. The first I heard about it was reading it on our boards so I have no sources or inside info on any of it. I'm just really hoping there's more to it than that article. I do know a lawyer's job is to paint his client as innocent and perfect angel as there ever has been, and the other person as someone so evil Satan himself is scared to be around him. The truth is usually somewhere in between, and I hope that is the case here. But if he truly was out there playing eenie, meenie, miney, mo your ass is about to hit the floor then good riddance. But if the frat boy was full of Southern Comfort and Taaka vodka and talking shit and let some words fly then that might change the complexion of things. All I'm saying is before I join the pitchfork and torch mob marching on the Bryan Building I at least want try and here the whole story.

This is the correct take. We’ve only heard one side. When it all comes out, hopefully the right decision will be made.

[Jarius]

This is the correct take. We?ve only heard one side. When it all comes out, hopefully the right decision will be made.

You can obviously tell Russell wanted this to go away. He tried apologizing and that didn't work so his attorney is going to come out blazing next I'm sure. Kid may get what he wants with Russell getting arrested but his life is about to change for the worse for pursuing this, I just about guarantee it. Every single job interview he goes to for the rest of his life he's going to have to explain why he was using racial slurs.

[msudawg1200]

He fell and hit the concrete which caused the bulk of the injuries. Don?t act like it was some massive assault. It was one punch.

Also if the punch would have been thrown by a frat bro, white guy, or non football player, or if he had hit another black student; would we be hearing about it at all? Would the lawyer have written and op Ed in the paper? Would we have all the clutching of pearls outrage?

Holy crap what an asinine take. Quit simping for a guy just because he plays football. To reverse your question, if it had been some random black dude and not a State football player would you be "white knighting" for him?

[civildawg]

There is so much victim shaming in this thread, it's crazy. I bet everyone would be doing the same as the family if it was their child laying in the hospital with a brain bleed. Where is it confirmed that the victim was throwing slurs? I don't see that in the link and the link even shows a message from Russell trying to apologize.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

explain why he was using racial slurs.

What evidence is pointing to that? Only evidence we can go off of is Russell's past. Does Trace have a history of being racist?

[Brobi-wan]

It’s not really victim blaming. Just because he has a brain bleed doesn’t mean he was innocent. He may not have started anything with Russel. We don’t know the whole story, but if he did, he’s hardly the victim. It’s not black and white. It’s we’ll wait and see.

[Jarius]

There is so much victim shaming in this thread, it's crazy. I bet everyone would be doing the same as the family if it was their child laying in the hospital with a brain bleed. Where is it confirmed that the victim was throwing slurs? I don't see that in the link and the link even shows a message from Russell trying to apologize.

I’m not victim blaming. Russell should not have hit him. The kid’s family is stupid for pursuing it because people that know the situation say that’s what started this. The racial slur. It may or may not be true but he’s going to be painted as a racist and he’s going to have to deal with that going forward. Good luck with that in this climate. Russell has millions of dollars at stake. He’s not just going to go quietly. The kid’s gonna get mud thrown at him. That’s a fact.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

It’s not really victim blaming. Just because he has a brain bleed doesn’t mean he was innocent. He may not have started anything with Russel. We don’t know the whole story, but if he did, he’s hardly the victim. It’s not black and white. It’s we’ll wait and see.

So if the guy that was punched showed no aggression and was sucker punched, you think it's justified by the use of one word? Holy shit

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I’m not victim blaming. Russell should not have hit him. The kid’s family is stupid for pursuing it because people that know the situation say that’s what started this. The racial slur. It may or may not be true but he’s going to be painted as a racist and he’s going to have to deal with that going forward. Good luck with that in this climate. Russell has millions of dollars at stake. He’s not just going to go quietly. The kid’s gonna get mud thrown at him. That’s a fact.

Check out the kids lawyer. He's going to get his and more. Russell better have his shit in one sock.

[Brobi-wan]

So if the guy that was punched showed no aggression and was sucker punched, you think it's justified by the use of one word? Holy shit

Way to take things out of context. That wasn’t said. We don’t know what caused the fight. If you walked into a bar and I slapped your wife on the ass in front of you, would you hit me if I was only 130 pounds? I hope so. How big the kid was is irrelevant. Context is key.

[mparkerfd20]

From experience I always always always remember there are 3 sides to a story. Your side, my side and the truth.

[BrunswickDawg]

How quickly we have forgotten Dak getting jumped for no reason on Spring Break other than some dumb asses wanting make a name for themselves.

College students of all ilks do stupid things for stupid reasons - and most of the time alcohol is involved. I've been there. A lot on this board have been. Facts are no one here has any info, the article on the Jambalaya provides only one side of the story, and says a whole lot that a fight like this in a highly visible location with cops regularly all around has not resulted in charges.

[Brobi-wan]

How quickly we have forgotten Dak getting jumped for no reason on Spring Break other than some dumb asses wanting make a name for themselves.

College students of all ilks do stupid things for stupid reasons - and most of the time alcohol is involved. I've been there. A lot on this board have been. Facts are no one here has any info, the article on the Jambalaya provides only one side of the story, and says a whole lot that a fight like this in a highly visible location with cops regularly all around has not resulted in charges.

Ding-ding-ding

[RiverCityDawg]

How quickly we have forgotten Dak getting jumped for no reason on Spring Break other than some dumb asses wanting make a name for themselves.

College students of all ilks do stupid things for stupid reasons - and most of the time alcohol is involved. I've been there. A lot on this board have been. Facts are no one here has any info, the article on the Jambalaya provides only one side of the story, and says a whole lot that a fight like this in a highly visible location with cops regularly all around has not resulted in charges.

What "fight"? One guy threw a punch that knocked out another guy. That's not a fight.

And we have a little bit more than only one side of the story. We have Russell in his own words apologizing, saying it was a foolish act and saying he's not asking Trace to let it go, which pretty clearly admits that he was the one in the wrong.

[Brobi-wan]

What evidence is pointing to that? Only evidence we can go off of is Russell's past. Does Trace have a history of being racist?

Trace is a frat boy from Clinton who posts pictures of himself in crop tops. More like the ?if you touch me I?m suing? look than squaring up and calling Russel then N word. Slurs don?t justify a brain bleed, but if they were both drunk and other things happened that would explain why things transpired that way.

[BrunswickDawg]

What "fight"? One guy threw a punch that knocked out another guy. That's not a fight.

And we have a little bit more than only one side of the story. We have Russell in his own words apologizing, saying it was a foolish act and saying he's not asking Trace to let it go, which pretty clearly admits that he was the one in the wrong.

You are right - I should have said incident and not fight.

That's still not the whole side of Russell's story. It is something presented by the accusatory side without context from Russell. The message is also cut off and undated. Is it authentic? Is it something related to the incident or something prior? You can never trust items thrown out into to the public in an attempt to impeach the character of someone without context.

[somebodyshotmypaw]

After reading Russell’s apology, he clearly slept through his English classes. Goodness.

[Jarius]

Check out the kids lawyer. He's going to get his and more. Russell better have his shit in one sock.

That kid is going to be portrayed as Edgar Ray Killen if he goes forward with this, whether he is or not. Straight out of the playbook. There is also a reason that kid’s attorney did not put that entire message from Russell in that release if I had to guess. It probably doesn’t make his client look favorable.

[RiverCityDawg]

You are right - I should have said incident and not fight.

That's still not the whole side of Russell's story. It is something presented by the accusatory side without context from Russell. The message is also cut off and undated. Is it authentic? Is it something related to the incident or something prior? You can never trust items thrown out into to the public in an attempt to impeach the character of someone without context.

Lol. Okay, Matlock. Yeah maybe Russell is apologizing for a previous foolish act (Do you think that would make this incident better?) or maybe the DM has been fabricated. Maybe the moon landing was made up too.

The mental gymnastics some of y'all are doing to dismiss or justify this foolishness is wild.

[RiverCityDawg]

That kid is going to be portrayed as Edgar Ray Killen if he goes forward with this, whether he is or not. Straight out of the playbook. There is also a reason that kid’s attorney did not put that entire message from Russell in that release if I had to guess. It probably doesn’t make his client look favorable.

Seems a simpler explanation is the entire DM didn't fit within one screen shot so he just included the relevant part where Russell apologized for the foolish act.

But yeah sure maybe on page 2 Russell changes his tone and goes on to say "...even though you called me the n word"...

[BrunswickDawg]

Lol. Okay, Matlock. Yeah maybe Russell is apologizing for a previous foolish act (Do you think that would make this incident better?) or maybe the DM has been fabricated. Maybe the moon landing was made up too.

The mental gymnastics some of y'all are doing to dismiss or justify this foolishness is wild.

It's not mental gymnastics - it's experience in watching things like this unfold. There is always more to the story. I don't care if Russell did it or not. If he did and it was how the accuser has presented it he should be punished. But, you are being just as Matlocky being convinced by a single side of the story.

[Churchill]

Good grief. I thought most of the State internet idiots were on SPS. Boy was I wrong, trying to justify what Russell did is cowardly on top of insane. WOW

[Jarius]

Seems a simpler explanation is the entire DM didn't fit within one screen shot so he just included the relevant part where Russell apologized for the foolish act.

But yeah sure maybe on page 2 Russell changes his tone and goes on to say "...even though you called me the n word"...

Oh ok.

[Jarius]

Good grief. I thought most of the State internet idiots were on SPS. Boy was I wrong, trying to justify what Russell did is cowardly on top of insane. WOW

Russell 100 % deserves to be punished. The extent some of you people think he should be punished for a fight is quite frankly delusional. There is more to this story or his attorney would not be fighting this battle through the paper and Russell would be out on bail. The lack of critical thinking here is amazing.

[Brobi-wan]

Russell 100 % deserves to be punished. The extent some of you people think he should be punished for a fight is quite frankly delusional. There is more to this story or his attorney would not be fighting this battle through the paper and Russell would be out on bail. The lack of critical thinking here is amazing.

Correct. Nobody says he should not have any punishment. Just that everything should fit the bill. If the way it’s presented is right, then he should go to jail. Why wasn’t he arrested at the scene if it was as brutal as the lawyer makes it out to be? There’s nothing wrong with questions. It’s part of the process.

[Jarius]

Correct. Nobody says he should not have any punishment. Just that everything should fit the bill. If the way it’s presented is right, then he should go to jail. Why wasn’t he arrested at the scene if it was as brutal as the lawyer makes it out to be? There’s nothing wrong with questions. It’s part of the process.

It’s been a week since he knocked the guy out and no charges have been pressed. That’s odd if it’s cut and dry.

[Coach34]

It’s been a week since he knocked the guy out and no charges have been pressed. That’s odd if it’s cut and dry.

As I said- somebody has video on their cell phone most likely. The truth will eventually come out.

[Jarius]

As I said- somebody has video on their cell phone most likely. The truth will eventually come out.

I agree, but the police have had this video for a week. It’s not as cut and dry as some want us to think because if that were the case he would have already been arrested. He may get arrested tonight for all I know, but the fact that he has not been is odd and says something else is a factor.

[Coach34]

I agree, but the police have had this video for a week. It’s not as cut and dry as some want us to think because if that were the case he would have already been arrested. He may get arrested tonight for all I know, but the fact that he has not been is odd and says something else is a factor.

oh I 100% believe there is alot more to the story

[LC Dawg]

As I said- somebody has video on their cell phone most likely. The truth will eventually come out.

Most videos of incidents like this are immediately posted on social media and a lot are live feeds. It's weird that there is nothing out there.

[Todd4State]

oh I 100% believe there is alot more to the story

There are definitely two sides to every story.

[Will E Lee]

Most videos of incidents like this are immediately posted on social media and a lot are live feeds. It's weird that there is nothing out there.

Otherwise, it would be out all over social media. I would think all of these bar/restaurants have cameras to protect them from liability/slip and fall lawsuits.

[MoreCowbell]

This is ***likely what happened:

While both had been drinking out one night, their paths crossed and something stupid/accidental happened and there was an exchange of words. Instead of cowering down, the frat kid (having liquid courage) said something smart to Russell (I highly doubt it was racial). Russel, now seething that this white frat kid would talk back to him in front of people, felt pressure and thought he had to do something and punched him in the face.

I highly doubt it was a sucker punch in the truest sense of the word but the kid probably thought there was enough people there that talking shit to Russel was not going to get him punched, nor should it have. In the aftermath frat kid ego was hurt so he is having the lawyer reiterate it was a sucker punch. The lesson for everyone here should be to learn how to deescalate situations like this.

While I think Russel should be disciplined I do not think it should ruin his life. I do not believe at all the characterization by the frat kid lawyer of Russel lying in wait deciding to punch this poor random kid he has never met in the face, that is absurd.

I worked for 6 years in bar scene in Tuscaloosa. This scenario happens every weekend on college campuses across the country when students are out and alcohol is flowing. Seen it time and time again.

This is also why it is taking so long to come to a decision, because this happens all the time. Authorities know this but because kids lawyer are now framing it a certain way and it is getting a lot of attention it is making it a very delicate situation involving race and socioeconomics. If serious charges were brought it would never hold up in court. So do you ruin a promising football players life over this? My guess is there will be talks behind closed doors with school/lawyers/family and they will come to a conclusion to try and settle this peacefully.

[Matt3467]

If it was a simple punch and nothing else we probably wouldn't be talking about this. Instead *because* of the punch the victim hit the concrete and had a brain bleed. Now it's serious. If the guy had died Russell very well could be charged with manslaughter or possibly even murder. Some people on here are acting like it's the concretes fault.

Also of note is that some on here are mentioning the victim used a racial slur. It's interesting how in a lot of these situations this is the defense brought up.

Edited to add that would that same defense hold up if the offender was white and claimed the black victim called him a cracker? Doubt it. Not everything has a racist lining like the big mouths would have you believe.

[Cooterpoot]

Always best to wait and see since none of us know everything about it. It'll work out one way or the other. It was all stupid.

[MBDawg601]

Ashame it happened. Frat boys with liquid courage is never a good mix. There are a handful at games that I encounter that need a few lessons in manners and to be careful what they say. This should be one of them. Hate he got knocked cold and hit his head, but I bet he will think twice next time before he tries to write checks with his mouth his ass can't cash. Life lessons come when you least expect it.

[PMDawg]

This is what happened:

While both had been drinking out one night, their paths crossed and something stupid/accidental happened and there was an exchange of words. Instead of cowering down, the frat kid (having liquid courage) said something smart to Russell (I highly doubt it was racial). Russel, now seething that this white frat kid would talk back to him in front of people, felt pressure and thought he had to do something and punched him in the face.

I highly doubt it was a sucker punch in the truest sense of the word but the kid probably thought there was enough people there that talking shit to Russel was not going to get him punched, nor should it have. In the aftermath frat kid ego was hurt so he is having the lawyer reiterate it was a sucker punch. The lesson for everyone here should be to learn how to deescalate situations like this.

While I think Russel should be disciplined I do not think it should ruin his life. I do not believe at all the characterization by the frat kid lawyer of Russel lying in wait deciding to punch this poor random kid he has never met in the face, that is absurd.

I worked for 6 years in bar scene in Tuscaloosa. This scenario happens every weekend on college campuses across the country when students are out and alcohol is flowing. Seen it time and time again.

This is also why it is taking so long to come to a decision, because this happens all the time. Authorities know this but because kids lawyer are now framing it a certain way and it is getting a lot of attention it is making it a very delicate situation involving race and socioeconomics. If serious charges were brought it would never hold up in court. So do you ruin a promising football players life over this? My guess is there will be talks behind closed doors with school/lawyers/family and they will come to a conclusion to try and settle this peacefully.

You posted this on SPS too, except there you said that "based on [reading that thread] that what happened is obvious", then posted this wall of what your imagination came up with. At least there, you pretty much admitted it was made up. Here, you're stating it as fact. So which is it? I'm guessing that, while plausible, this is fan fiction. If he really followed him to a new location, waited outside, then punched him as soon as he came out, then, yes, he did in fact sucker punch him. And if true, he should be gone.

ETA: I see you've edited your SPS to state it as fact there too. But I saw how you originally had it framed. It was obvious you have no first hand knowledge.

[MoreCowbell]

If you read what I posted I am clearly stating an opinion. I will change to what likely happened. Were you there?

[archdog]

Yep, I contemplate smacking a frat boy about once a week, but I don't do it because I am supposed to be responsible and shit.

[schddog72]

No, we likely would not be hearing about it, but the criminal and civil legal issues for the alleged attacker would be the same if not more on the criminal side.

Russel made a mistake, and he is paying for it.

What has he paid so far? Has he been kicked off the team? Expelled from the university? Arrested and charged with a crime?