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Leroy Jenkins
05-16-2024, 05:04 PM
Who gives a crap how many conference wins you have. Are you one of the best 64 teams? Yes or No?

Schultzy
05-16-2024, 05:40 PM
So what metric should we use?

Todd4State
05-16-2024, 05:41 PM
He is saying that because LSU has 17 losses in conference play.

Todd4State
05-16-2024, 05:42 PM
So what metric should we use?

Technically it's not a metric. It's a coorelation between teams that make it.

Santiago
05-16-2024, 06:19 PM
He is saying that because LSU has 17 losses in conference play.

He is definitely saying that for LSU's sake. So many holes in his comments

msudawg1200
05-17-2024, 07:17 AM
I mean, technically I agree, but there has to be some sort of criteria, or we get into "muh eye test" that's plagued college football. How many "super teams" on paper have we seen in pro sports fail and not make the playoffs? On paper, the Yankees should be the 1 or 2 seed every year. At some point wins and losses matter.

PGHBulldogBG
05-17-2024, 07:27 AM
I would think LSU would have to sweep Ole Miss to make the tournament or at least make a run to the finals in Hoover. Ole Miss same thing they need to win the next 2 and get to the finals in Hoover

Cooterpoot
05-17-2024, 07:54 AM
Without our conference schedule, we played a pathetic excuse for a schedule, so yes, conference wins should matter. We've got several bad losses.
I expect to be on the road for a regional because of that. Plus, the SEC overall hasn't looked as strong as we thought. Outside the top 4, it's pretty pedestrian for the SEC.

Coursesuper
05-17-2024, 08:37 AM
Who gives a crap how many conference wins you have. Are you one of the best 64 teams? Yes or No?

Then how do we judge teams at the end of the season? By height?

RockyDog
05-17-2024, 09:02 AM
Without our conference schedule, we played a pathetic excuse for a schedule, so yes, conference wins should matter. We've got several bad losses.
I expect to be on the road for a regional because of that. Plus, the SEC overall hasn't looked as strong as we thought. Outside the top 4, it's pretty pedestrian for the SEC.

The pedestrian SEC has 7 teams in the top 25 just like the ACC.

Look at 6 thru 25 in the D1 rankings. All have between 32 and 39 wins and losses from 11-20. TN, Arkansas and A&M all top out at 42-10. There's not a dominant team this year and that makes it much more fun. Parity has hit college baseball, even in the mighty SEC. But don't let that fool you into thinking that it has lost it's grip on the dominance of the rest of college baseball. It hasn't.

DownwardDawg
05-17-2024, 02:26 PM
I mean, technically I agree, but there has to be some sort of criteria, or we get into "muh eye test" that's plagued college football. How many "super teams" on paper have we seen in pro sports fail and not make the playoffs? On paper, the Yankees should be the 1 or 2 seed every year. At some point wins and losses matter.

Kinda like Georgia this year in football. Everyone thought they were by far the best team in the country. Then, they played Bama in a game that they knew for weeks was coming. A game where you should be hyper focused and extremely prepared, they got their butts handed to them.

StarkVegasSteve
05-17-2024, 02:45 PM
Ben has to say this. He's trying to pander to the LSU fans who think they deserve to be in. You want to be in? Don't lose 17 games in conference. Pretty simple solution to the problem.

Leroy Jenkins
05-17-2024, 02:46 PM
Then how do we judge teams at the end of the season? By height?

By overall record. Conference record should be used for conference standings. National standings should be based on picking the best 64 teams, conference record be damed.

Schultzy
05-17-2024, 03:58 PM
Your conference record says a lot more about you than your non, which is why it’s given more weight.

You are what your conference record says you are.

was21
05-17-2024, 06:00 PM
He's a good dude. He really respects Mississippi State baseball. OTOH you gotta realize that he's still a homer and campaigning for his school and it's pretty clear.

TALL DAWG
05-17-2024, 06:37 PM
Would it not be best for Old Mess to beat the Corn Dogs tomorrow so both will end the season at 12-18 in sec play.
Unless either one wins 3 in Hoover with a 12-18 conf record I don?t think either deserve to get into a regional.

DownwardDawg
05-17-2024, 06:37 PM
Ben has to say this. He's trying to pander to the LSU fans who think they deserve to be in. You want to be in? Don't lose 17 games in conference. Pretty simple solution to the problem.

100%

DownwardDawg
05-17-2024, 06:38 PM
Your conference record says a lot more about you than your non, which is why it’s given more weight.

You are what your conference record says you are.

Yep