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Leroy Jenkins
04-19-2024, 09:51 AM
Last year 7.01, currently this year it's 4.35.

Commercecomet24
04-19-2024, 10:14 AM
Amazing how good a pitching staff can be when they challenge hitters and throw strikes. I hope no matter what happens this year we find a way to keep Parker.

ZedFedder
04-19-2024, 10:44 AM
Just seeing the way Parker conducts himself, he may not be the worst choice for HC if (BIG IF) we miss out on the top 3 or 4 targets.

Todd4State
04-19-2024, 11:39 AM
Just seeing the way Parker conducts himself, he may not be the worst choice for HC if (BIG IF) we miss out on the top 3 or 4 targets.

We need an experienced head coach at a program like MSU.

basedog
04-19-2024, 01:39 PM
We need an experienced head coach at a program like MSU.

I agree!

Cooterpoot
04-19-2024, 01:55 PM
Hitting, Fielding, and ERA are all ok. What's not is the number of extra base hits and power numbers. It's one base at a time for us and why we lose so many close games.We also sacrifice bunt like damn mad men which further hurts us. We're at the bottom in saves as well.

Pancho
04-19-2024, 05:28 PM
nothing wrong with a good short game if it gets followed up with an rbi single.

Coach34
04-19-2024, 05:39 PM
Hitting, Fielding, and ERA are all ok. What's not is the number of extra base hits and power numbers. It's one base at a time for us and why we lose so many close games.We also sacrifice bunt like damn mad men which further hurts us. We're at the bottom in saves as well.

Weaknesses are no power/no closer. Other than that we are a good baseball team

Brobi-wan
04-19-2024, 05:49 PM
If we keep Lemo we should probably require he fire the hitting coach. I think keeping Lemo may still be a mistake. Time will tell.

Cooterpoot
04-19-2024, 06:28 PM
nothing wrong with a good short game if it gets followed up with an rbi single.

We're second in sac bunts in the league. That's not what you want to see.

Cooterpoot
04-19-2024, 06:29 PM
Weaknesses are no power/no closer. Other than that we are a good baseball team

Other than that, we're a middle of the pack SEC team, Without it, we'll see. We could always catch fire or tank. This team seems to be all over the place.

smootness
04-19-2024, 06:58 PM
nothing wrong with a good short game if it gets followed up with an rbi single.

Right, which you will only get about 30% of the time. No reason to give away outs.

Todd4State
04-20-2024, 01:09 AM
Hitting, Fielding, and ERA are all ok. What's not is the number of extra base hits and power numbers. It's one base at a time for us and why we lose so many close games.We also sacrifice bunt like damn mad men which further hurts us. We're at the bottom in saves as well.

Losing Highfill hurt as far as power production goes. Add in injuries to Kohler and Hines refusing to use the whole field and it explains the power drought.

Todd4State
04-20-2024, 01:14 AM
If we keep Lemo we should probably require he fire the hitting coach. I think keeping Lemo may still be a mistake. Time will tell.

To me that just seems like putting lipstick on a pig.

We're right in the middle of the SEC in most hitting categories. Not great. But is that fireable? It's not like we're dead last in hitting by a good margin like we were dead last in ERA last year.

To me, not having a closer has been much more of an issue than hitting.

Now if Gautreau leaves or is fired or whatever that's fine but I would be surprised if that is a demand from the AD.

Todd4State
04-20-2024, 01:16 AM
We're second in sac bunts in the league. That's not what you want to see.

Unfortunately we have to manufacture runs. A lot of those bunts are from Johnny Long. They're better than him hitting into a double play. Mershon and Larry are speed guys so I'm always good with them bunting for hits.

Cooterpoot
04-20-2024, 06:46 AM
Unfortunately we have to manufacture runs. A lot of those bunts are from Johnny Long. They're better than him hitting into a double play. Mershon and Larry are speed guys so I'm always good with them bunting for hits.

Which means the team has issues and your coach is scared to play for a big inning. You don't do that if you have players. And as much as Long is a fiery guy, Powell is a much better hitter. I don't really get the Long hype other than he's the only guy with some fire. He can't throw out anybody, and he can't hit. Lemonis & staff just hasn't recruited adequately. Going to be ugly next year. Were going to be hoping to squeeze into a regional this year unless we get rolling (we could).

TheLostDawg
04-20-2024, 07:40 AM
Which means the team has issues and your coach is scared to play for a big inning. You don't do that if you have players. And as much as Long is a fiery guy, Powell is a much better hitter. I don't really get the Long hype other than he's the only guy with some fire. He can't throw out anybody, and he can't hit. Lemonis & staff just hasn't recruited adequately. Going to be ugly next year. Were going to be hoping to squeeze into a regional this year unless we get rolling (we could).

Unless we get some big transfers which Lemonis hasn't been able to do. That being said we missed the SEC tournament twice which didn't help us recruit. It's possible to get an improved roster but I'm not holding my breath

basedog
04-20-2024, 08:49 AM
Unless we get some big transfers which Lemonis hasn't been able to do. That being said we missed the SEC tournament twice which didn't help us recruit. It's possible to get an improved roster but I'm not holding my breath

Maybe with a good run thru the regional this year will help us in the portal. Last two years did us no favors.

Btw, good win last night, lets get another one today. Stephens is a Dude!

The Federalist Engineer
04-20-2024, 08:59 PM
Last year 7.01, currently this year it's 4.35.

Basically having Scott Foxhall on campus was like injecting AIDS into the baseball program

He probably even costed MSU the Todd Skenes transfer.

Todd4State
04-20-2024, 11:54 PM
Which means the team has issues and your coach is scared to play for a big inning. You don't do that if you have players. And as much as Long is a fiery guy, Powell is a much better hitter. I don't really get the Long hype other than he's the only guy with some fire. He can't throw out anybody, and he can't hit. Lemonis & staff just hasn't recruited adequately. Going to be ugly next year. Were going to be hoping to squeeze into a regional this year unless we get rolling (we could).

I have always believed that as a coach on offense in baseball you do whatever your players do well. If they're more power hitters you play for the 3 run home run. If they're more speed oriented you do things to take advantage of that such as steal, hit and run, and bunt. You can absolutely cause a big inning by playing small ball. It's not about being "scared". That's all there really is to it.

It's not their fault that Highfill and Kohler got hurt. It's partially their fault that Hines won't adjust.

We don't know what next year will look like until after portal season ends.

Todd4State
04-20-2024, 11:56 PM
Unless we get some big transfers which Lemonis hasn't been able to do. That being said we missed the SEC tournament twice which didn't help us recruit. It's possible to get an improved roster but I'm not holding my breath


Maybe with a good run thru the regional this year will help us in the portal. Last two years did us no favors.

Btw, good win last night, lets get another one today. Stephens is a Dude!

We were able to land some good players in the portal we just haven't been able to land a Skenes or Montgomery.

I do think that having a legit pitching coach will help immensely with that. Especially the way guys like Khal Stephen have improved under Parker.

basedog
04-21-2024, 07:40 AM
We were able to land some good players in the portal we just haven't been able to land a Skenes or Montgomery.

I do think that having a legit pitching coach will help immensely with that. Especially the way guys like Khal Stephen have improved under Parker.

Stephen by far a great portal get. Also, you still have to sign some good freshman classes you can't ignore recruiting freshmen, it may not be the same but still it's a must.

maroonmania
04-21-2024, 09:21 AM
If we keep Lemo we should probably require he fire the hitting coach. I think keeping Lemo may still be a mistake. Time will tell.

I'm very concerned if we keep him as well. This should be a PEAK year and it looks like we will at best be a 2 seed in somebody else's regional. Will require a massive portal haul to be as good next year as we are this year. Makes me think we will likely never host again as long as Lemonis is here.

smootness
04-21-2024, 09:31 AM
I have always believed that as a coach on offense in baseball you do whatever your players do well. If they're more power hitters you play for the 3 run home run. If they're more speed oriented you do things to take advantage of that such as steal, hit and run, and bunt. You can absolutely cause a big inning by playing small ball. It's not about being "scared". That's all there really is to it.

It's not their fault that Highfill and Kohler got hurt. It's partially their fault that Hines won't adjust.

We don't know what next year will look like until after portal season ends.

If you have guys who can consistently bunt for hits, that is fine. Giving away outs is almost always bad for every offense.

smootness
04-21-2024, 09:32 AM
Hard not to think Lemonis has to go. This team is not bad but as the best team in 3 years, it just is not good enough.

maroonmania
04-21-2024, 11:23 AM
Hard not to think Lemonis has to go. This team is not bad but as the best team in 3 years, it just is not good enough.

I could live with the results this year if I felt we were building. Next year is likely a step back from this year talent wise.

The Federalist Engineer
04-22-2024, 10:24 PM
I could live with the results this year if I felt we were building. Next year is likely a step back from this year talent wise.

Talent wise, pitching, keeping

Stevens, Dotson, Pico, Hardin, Siary, Grant, Loftin, Ligon?, Holcombe?

If you can replace Dohm, Stephen, Auger, Davis, and Schulke with new transfers, should be ok

Leroy Jenkins
04-29-2024, 08:44 AM
1. Arkansas 3.01
2. Tennessee 3.79
3. aTm 3.84
4. MSU 4.20

From dead last to 4th. Nearly 3 runs a game improvement, without our "ace".

CaptainObvious
04-29-2024, 08:55 AM
Bama team batting is .311. If you just take their 9 starters it is closer to .325. They do have some pitching. This weekend will probably tell the tale of where State ends up in Hoover. Probably a Top 9 seed with Missouri still on the schedule though and that should mean Regional. Top 5 or 6 and very much in the Hosting talk. When is the last time the SEC had less than 5 in the Host Role?

BigDawg81
04-29-2024, 10:30 AM
Alabama is 7-5 at home and 2-7 on the road. There only two road wins against Ole Miss. They got swept on the road vs Kentucky and Georgia. Completely different team at home vs away

Commercecomet24
04-29-2024, 10:42 AM
Alabama is 7-5 at home and 2-7 on the road. There only two road wins against Ole Miss. They got swept on the road vs Kentucky and Georgia. Completely different team at home vs away

It seems like home field is a bigger advantage than it's ever been this year. Maybe not but it sure seems that way.

Homedawg
04-29-2024, 11:17 AM
1. Arkansas 3.01
2. Tennessee 3.79
3. aTm 3.84
4. MSU 4.20

From dead last to 4th. Nearly 3 runs a game improvement, without our "ace".

2nd in sec era in league games only....

Commercecomet24
04-29-2024, 11:59 AM
2nd in sec era in league games only....

Absolutely incredible, the turn around! Just so impressive by Parker and the players for buying in and working!

Coach34
04-29-2024, 03:31 PM
Absolutely incredible, the turn around! Just so impressive by Parker and the players for buying in and working!

Well, as Parker himself said- "most talented staff he has ever coached"
I said the same thing before the season plus just having guys in their 2nd year as opposed to Freshmen last season.
Improvement was expected. But without a doubt- Parker has made our pitching better.

It stings tho that Simmons, Dohm and Loftin are down while Holcombe is worse. This staff really could have been the #2 staff behind UPig this year

Commercecomet24
04-29-2024, 03:36 PM
Well, as Parker himself said- "most talented staff he has ever coached"
I said the same thing before the season plus just having guys in their 2nd year as opposed to Freshmen last season.
Improvement was expected. But without a doubt- Parker has made our pitching better.

It stings tho that Simmons, Dohm and Loftin are down while Holcombe is worse. This staff really could have been the #2 staff behind UPig this year

Man you got that right. If just those 3 injured were added to this staff, it would be something. Shame that holcombe hasn't made the jump the others have as well.

Todd4State
04-29-2024, 04:06 PM
Well, as Parker himself said- "most talented staff he has ever coached"
I said the same thing before the season plus just having guys in their 2nd year as opposed to Freshmen last season.
Improvement was expected. But without a doubt- Parker has made our pitching better.

It stings tho that Simmons, Dohm and Loftin are down while Holcombe is worse. This staff really could have been the #2 staff behind UPig this year

We're also missing Makhai Grant. He is a big loss for this year as well while he is recovering from Tommy John surgery.

Tbonewannabe
04-29-2024, 04:18 PM
If Parker isn't assistant coach of the year, I would like to see what someone else did. He took a pitching staff from worst to one of the better staffs and still doesn't have a true closer.

Saltydog
04-29-2024, 04:27 PM
We didn't do a heck'uva lot in the portal a year after winning the CWS, other than Yeager. That's about what we're getting, one decent player and a bunch of average joe's.

State82
04-29-2024, 04:32 PM
We're also missing Makhai Grant. He is a big loss for this year as well while he is recovering from Tommy John surgery.

When did he have surgery?

Homedawg
04-29-2024, 04:33 PM
Well, as Parker himself said- "most talented staff he has ever coached"
I said the same thing before the season plus just having guys in their 2nd year as opposed to Freshmen last season.
Improvement was expected. But without a doubt- Parker has made our pitching better.

It stings tho that Simmons, Dohm and Loftin are down while Holcombe is worse. This staff really could have been the #2 staff behind UPig this year

Our sec era is number two behind ark. But yes it would be a lot closer wo injury!!

Lord McBuckethead
04-29-2024, 06:07 PM
Can we teach Holcolm to change his grip, arm angle, and tempo to get him as a closer?

Grip, so he can get a little movement.
Arm Angle to add a little movement.
Tempo to attack hitters when he gets ahead.

Commercecomet24
04-29-2024, 07:48 PM
Can we teach Holcolm to change his grip, arm angle, and tempo to get him as a closer?

Grip, so he can get a little movement.
Arm Angle to add a little movement.
Tempo to attack hitters when he gets ahead.

Heck his slider is an elite pitch if he could command it just throw nothing but sliders like the Mets used to do with Turk Wendell. But of course command is his problem with everything. His fastball is plenty good enough but he's always behind in counts and has to groove to many pitches. Can't do that at this level. None of those things you mentioned will help him with command. Some people just never get command.