View Full Version : We hate Ole Miss - Game 2 thread
parabrave
04-13-2024, 11:36 PM
Dam Stevens not the way to start a inning
preachermatt83
04-13-2024, 11:36 PM
Stevens hasn’t had a good outing in a while
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:37 PM
Who the heck is starting on the mound tomorrow?
Win this one, and I don't carw
BulldogBear
04-13-2024, 11:37 PM
We should just intentionally walk their leadoff man and save our pitchers' arms***
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:38 PM
Stephens hasn't thrown a strike yet. The dude hit a comebacker that should have been a double play on a low pitch.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:38 PM
Man, Stevens sucks
BeardoMSU
04-13-2024, 11:38 PM
Why...
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
Please throw strikes
Lord McBuckethead
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
Steven?s has only thrown one strike so far.
Commercecomet24
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
Nothing easy
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
8 straight balls by Stevens. Lucky one idiot swung at it.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
Does this team have any lemonis recruit worth a ****
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
We just can’t
HoopsDawg
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
Why pull Ligon?
RockyDog
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
Stevens is a stud!!!!
Lord McBuckethead
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
Now the double play is out. Might as well put this guy on.
preachermatt83
04-13-2024, 11:39 PM
We have no bullpen. None
Saltydog
04-13-2024, 11:40 PM
The moment is too big for Stevens.
bobtail bob
04-13-2024, 11:40 PM
This is not high level baseball
BeardoMSU
04-13-2024, 11:40 PM
Jfc...
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:40 PM
Steven?s has only thrown one strike so far.
It wasn't a strike. The guy swung at a low pitch.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:40 PM
Why pull Ligon?
Lemonis is trash. This is reason #10342
Lord McBuckethead
04-13-2024, 11:40 PM
Time to man up. Pop fly or double play ball. Let?s go.
DawgFromOxford
04-13-2024, 11:40 PM
Cmon Long. You can't pimp a home run and then let a ball go through the legs
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:41 PM
I mean who else do we have. We’ve seen this before
DawgFromOxford
04-13-2024, 11:41 PM
Lemonis is trash. This is reason #10342
I mean I didn't exactly have any confidence in Ligon
Quaoarsking
04-13-2024, 11:41 PM
Stevens' confidence is going to be shot.
Lord McBuckethead
04-13-2024, 11:41 PM
Steven?s literally will not throw strikes.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:41 PM
Stevens is a stud!!!!
General rule of thumb - if lemonis signed a guy? He sucks
DawgFromOxford
04-13-2024, 11:42 PM
Stevens is literally going to walk in the runs to lose this game
bobtail bob
04-13-2024, 11:42 PM
Get him out of the game or we lose
HoopsDawg
04-13-2024, 11:42 PM
I mean I didn't exactly have any confidence in Ligon
Ligon did fine. Error cost us the win
RockyDog
04-13-2024, 11:42 PM
Steven’s is on the take. Send his ass back to Cali
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:42 PM
I mean I didn't exactly have any confidence in Ligon
Sure, this was a great move
preachermatt83
04-13-2024, 11:42 PM
This is once again, all on coaching
Lord McBuckethead
04-13-2024, 11:42 PM
Just pipe them down the middle. Walking in a run and then losing is dumb. Make them earn it.
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:43 PM
Stupid coaching! Damn I want Lemonis gone!
Saltydog
04-13-2024, 11:43 PM
We lose this one, we lose the series. Book it.
EdwardDrayton
04-13-2024, 11:43 PM
Amazing what happens when you throw strikes.
Lord McBuckethead
04-13-2024, 11:43 PM
Big time three pitches.
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:43 PM
Big K.
Commercecomet24
04-13-2024, 11:44 PM
We lose this one, we lose the series. Book it.
That's what everyone said after last Saturday too
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:44 PM
I stayed up for this shit
Quaoarsking
04-13-2024, 11:44 PM
)p(*@u#%()*&@#$%()*&@$)(*&@#)($*&@#$)(%*&9)@345
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:45 PM
Anyone lemons signs sucks... book
It
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:45 PM
Amazing what happens when you throw strikes.
Amazing what happens when you walk people too
magrooder
04-13-2024, 11:45 PM
Shocking.
BeardoMSU
04-13-2024, 11:45 PM
**** us for this.
Cowbell
04-13-2024, 11:45 PM
To think that they want to compare their fan atmosphere to Dudy Noble is pathetic - that atmosphere ain't even top 5 in the league
HoopsDawg
04-13-2024, 11:45 PM
Stevens is mainly a 1B and a hitter. Yet we don't let him DH. And we bring him in for a pitcher who was effective.
preachermatt83
04-13-2024, 11:45 PM
You Lemonis apologists keep burying your heads in the sand
EdwardDrayton
04-13-2024, 11:46 PM
We're a scrappy bunch. We will be ready tomorrow.
StarkVegasSteve
04-13-2024, 11:46 PM
I remember when some people thought Stevens was the best player in the country. Good times.
preachermatt83
04-13-2024, 11:47 PM
That's what everyone said after last Saturday too
It doesn’t matter. You don’t lose games like this. Nor the one like last week against Georgia. Not if you’re any good. You just don’t
Coursesuper
04-13-2024, 11:47 PM
This is once again, all on coaching
Exactly how? Show us your depth of baseball knowledge.
DEDawg
04-13-2024, 11:47 PM
You Lemonis apologists keep burying your heads in the sand
You have got to make up your mind dude
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:47 PM
I mean seriously... who on this team is good that was recruited and signed by lemonis? Just take the Ls, and get rid of this herpes MFer
magrooder
04-13-2024, 11:47 PM
Can't leave an army on base and win very often. Even doing that we still should have won. We'll take it tomorrow.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:48 PM
Stevens is mainly a 1B and a hitter. Yet we don't let him DH. And we bring him in for a pitcher who was effective.
He can't hit. He can't pitch. He's trash just like his coach
EdwardDrayton
04-13-2024, 11:48 PM
Amazing what happens when you walk people too
Yeah we have some issues at times with our back end pitching.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:48 PM
Can't leave an army on base and win very often. Even doing that we still should have won. We'll take it tomorrow.
Ha
Ha
Ha
StarkVegasSteve
04-13-2024, 11:48 PM
We had plenty of chances to step on their throat and failed to do it. Our problem is the same problem we have had since 2021. We have no one with a killer instinct and we still do not have a closer.
Saltydog
04-13-2024, 11:49 PM
THIS is a perfect example of why a lot of folks want to part ways with Lemonis. Yes, the players made mistakes but they're his players. We should not be this limited with our position player depth. We just shouldn't. The bottom of the order is pathetic and this team just invents ways to lose close games. Makes you question the mental toughness of the squad. How many games is this now that we've blown late?
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:49 PM
Average team with missing pieces. We will have to get smoking hot to make any real noise. Another 1 run loss.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:49 PM
We're a scrappy bunch. We will be ready tomorrow.
Scrappy bunches don't lose this game
DawgFromOxford
04-13-2024, 11:49 PM
No killer instinct in this team when it comes to crunch time
BulldogBear
04-13-2024, 11:49 PM
It doesn?t matter. You don?t lose games like this. Nor the one like last week against Georgia. Not if you?re any good. You just don?t
You also don't spot them a leadoff baserunner five straight innings at the end of a game and expect to win
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:49 PM
Thst was two crappy baseball teams right there. No wonder they finished 13 &14 last year!
DawgFromOxford
04-13-2024, 11:51 PM
What I would give to have a Cohen mentality esque team back on the diamond
EdwardDrayton
04-13-2024, 11:51 PM
Scrappy bunches don't lose this game
It's a three game series for a reason. Win two on the road and we've done the job.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:51 PM
Making the tourney and losing out in a regional
Isn't better than missing it and ridding ourselves so lemonis. Lemonis sucks... he just does. There's no lemonis recruits worth AF
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:51 PM
Yeah we have some issues at times with our back end pitching.
And our front end hitting!
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:52 PM
What I would give to have a Cohen mentality esque team back on the diamond
Forget the mentality.... give me the talent. Lemonis can't recruit
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:52 PM
THIS is a perfect example of why a lot of folks want to part ways with Lemonis. Yes, the players made mistakes but they're his players. We should not be this limited with our position player depth. We just shouldn't. The bottom of the order is pathetic and this team just invents ways to lose close games. Makes you question the mental toughness of the squad. How many games is this now that we've blown late?
The 1 hole ain’t that great either so it’s not just the bottom
sandjunky
04-13-2024, 11:52 PM
Long cost state that game behind the dish - he just wasn?t good late
EdwardDrayton
04-13-2024, 11:52 PM
And our front end hitting!
We're scoring plenty.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:53 PM
The 1 hole ain’t that great either so it’s not just the bottom
Man, if only we had a coach that could upgrade the talent
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:53 PM
Thst was two crappy baseball teams right there. No wonder they finished 13 &14 last year!
Repped
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:54 PM
You also don't spot them a leadoff baserunner five straight innings at the end of a game and expect to win
This is a major factor
Saltydog
04-13-2024, 11:54 PM
Forget the mentality.... give me the talent. Lemonis can't recruit
Truer words have never been spoken. The recruiter either really can't recruit or he can't coach or could it be both.
sandjunky
04-13-2024, 11:54 PM
It's a three game series for a reason. Win two on the road and we've done the job.
True but state didn?t step on their throat and gave a dead team life
OM wins series tomorrow
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:54 PM
It's a three game series for a reason. Win two on the road and we've done the job.
We needed a sweep to make up for FL. They are not very good. But I guess that says something about us too.
StarkVegasSteve
04-13-2024, 11:54 PM
Long cost state that game behind the dish - he just wasn?t good late
Our bullpen cost us the game….once again…..for the 3rd straight year. We have no alphas. We have a bunch of front runners. We have no one with the balls to demand the ball in crunch time.
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:55 PM
Where was the clutch from the big boys tonight? Non-existent. Hines with runners on- zippo! With nobody on 1st at bat or the game - K. Last at bat of the game solo HR. In between. Leaves a small village on the base paths.
Jordan will play in the big leagues even though he is a strike out machine. Hines might get to Double A. Then he will be playing American Legion ball until he is 45 like his old man!
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:57 PM
True but state didn?t step on their throat and gave a dead team life
OM wins series tomorrow
I'm fine with this. I want whatever needs to happen to rid ourselves of lemonis. He isn't good... he's trash
StarkVegasSteve
04-13-2024, 11:58 PM
Where was the clutch from the big boys tonight? Non-existent. Hines with runners on- zippo! With nobody on 1st at bat or the game - K. Last at bat of the game solo HR. In between. Leaves a small village on the base paths.
Jordan will play in the big leagues even though he is a strike out machine. Hines might get to Double A. Then he will be playing American Legion ball until he is 45 like his old man!
You can be pissed about our hitters all you want, and you have every right to be. But we had a 7-3 lead in the 8th. This is once again on the piss poor bullpen. Just like it has been most games the last 2 and a half years.
msstate7
04-13-2024, 11:58 PM
You can be pissed about our hitters all you want, and you have every right to be. But we had a 7-3 lead in the 8th. This is once again on the piss poor bullpen. Just like it has been most games the last 2 and a half years.
Lemonis can't recruit. That's the problem
Bdawg
04-13-2024, 11:58 PM
I'm fine with this. I want whatever needs to happen to rid ourselves of lemonis. He isn't good... he's trash
Whoa whoa… step away. No one is fine losing to OM.
CaptainObvious
04-13-2024, 11:59 PM
I do think they win the series tomorrow. State had a chance to bury them and proved "scrappy bunch" only goes so far.
Todd4State
04-13-2024, 11:59 PM
It doesn’t matter. You don’t lose games like this. Nor the one like last week against Georgia. Not if you’re any good. You just don’t
We literally lose at least one game like this a weekend.
sandjunky
04-14-2024, 12:00 AM
Our bullpen cost us the game….once again…..for the 3rd straight year. We have no alphas. We have a bunch of front runners. We have no one with the balls to demand the ball in crunch time.
Don?t disagree about pen being not good but he?s got to block those 2 balls - weren?t even tough balls to block
DawgFromOxford
04-14-2024, 12:01 AM
Long cost state that game behind the dish - he just wasn?t good late
The whole team is at fault here. Multiple innings with bases loaded and can't hang big crooked numbers. Leading 7-3 in the bottom of the 8th and pitching gives up 4 runs. Jordan dropped a ball he should've caught. We let the leadoff guy on from the 8th innning on. Long can't block. Larry fumbles away the last out. Stevens had a double play ball hit to him and he pulls Mershon off line. I mean all around pitiful effort.
And if the whole team is at fault it points back to the man in charge. How anyone want to keep Lemonis at this point I don't get. Who cares if we make a regional. It's clear he doesn't get the most out of his team
TALL DAWG
04-14-2024, 12:01 AM
If we make one final play at 2nd in bottom of 10th or 11th we win the game.
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:02 AM
Lemonis is 25-49 since we lost the previous staff's players. Lemonis is AIDS
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:03 AM
The best thing that can happen to our program is ridding ourselves of lemonis.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:03 AM
Lemonis can't recruit. That's the problem
No. He can't coach. Who puts a random freshman at DH to start a rivalry game? Leaves pitchers in too long- leaving Schuelke in too long with an umpire that couldn't see his pitches- whose fault is that? Why is Larry still leading off? NONE of that is on the players or their abilities. The coach is there for a reason to push the right buttons. Lemonis literally sits there and just lets whatever play out.
And I got the sense after last night he got cocky and was like "oh they'll figure it out because we almost always beat them." Well that attitude gets you beat. Starts at the top down.
TALL DAWG
04-14-2024, 12:04 AM
Who starts for us today (it?s morning now) and whos left to relieve?
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:04 AM
Lemonis can't recruit. That's the problem
Dude I get your mad, but he has recruited some damn studs. Bednar was the alpha of alphas and he recruited him. Dakota Jordan is an insane talent. He found Stephen in the portal. I hate Lemonis more than anyone on this board, you yourself have said I go overboard with it, but to call him out for recruiting is the wrong lane completely. Call him out for his game management fine, but recruiting is the one thing you cannot call him out on.
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:05 AM
No. He can't coach. Who puts a random freshman at DH to start a rivalry game? Leaves pitchers in too long- leaving Schuelke in too long with an umpire that couldn't see his pitches- whose fault is that? Why is Larry still leading off? NONE of that is on the players or their abilities. The coach is there for a reason to push the right buttons. Lemonis literally sits there and just lets whatever play out.
And I got the sense after last night he got cocky and was like "oh they'll figure it out because we almost always beat them." Well that attitude gets you beat. Starts at the top down.
He can't do anything. He's a weight around our necks... he's pulling us down. I'm fine with losing out if it gets rid of the problem - lemonis
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:05 AM
And don't get me started on Jordan and Hines taking donkey hacks with two strikes when all they have to do is put the bat on the ball. Neither one of them hit enough home runs to offset their strikeouts to make it worth it.
And the hitting coach does nothing to even try to change it.
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:06 AM
Dude I get your mad, but he has recruited some damn studs. Bednar was the alpha of alphas and he recruited him. Dakota Jordan is an insane talent. He found Stephen in the portal. I hate Lemonis more than anyone on this board, you yourself have said I go overboard with it, but to call him out for recruiting is the wrong lane completely. Call him out for his game management fine, but recruiting is the one thing you cannot call him out on.
Cool. Who are the underclassmen that are turning this around?
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:07 AM
He can't do anything. He's a weight around our necks... he's pulling us down. I'm fine with losing out if it gets rid of the problem - lemonis
There is a world where we win enough to not be a total embarrassment and still get rid of him.
I'm going to pull for the team no matter what but if it plays out like that I'm cool with it.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:07 AM
Who starts for us today (it?s morning now) and whos left to relieve?
My guess is Siary will get the start. You still have Davis, Hardin, maybe Ligon, and maybe Stevens who can go tomorrow. You also have Loftin if he is healthy
CaptainObvious
04-14-2024, 12:07 AM
I am just not sure who is calling the shots on the bull pen. Once Cjintge didn't have it, there should have been two people throwing every inning we are in the field. Tonight is not the first time our staff got caught with nobody warmed up this year. And with those clowns, it likely will not be the last!
Bdawg
04-14-2024, 12:09 AM
We literally lose at least one game like this a weekend.
So you?re saying we?re not good..
CaptainObvious
04-14-2024, 12:10 AM
My guess is Siary will get the start. You still have Davis, Hardin, maybe Ligon, and maybe Stevens who can go tomorrow. You also have Loftin if he is healthy
I don't feel good about any of the 5 you just named but Hardin and he is probably due for an off game.
They just came from behind 3 times to beat their hated rival. They will come hard tomorrow. We may need 15 runs to win it.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:10 AM
Cool. Who are the underclassmen that are turning this around?
Nolan Stevens, Mikhai Grant, Dylan Cupp, and Highfill are not a bad nucleus to build around. You also will have Chance coming back as well as Downs. I mean if you fire Lemonis who is going to turn it around? All those kids will leave and you are in an even worse situation. It is a double edged sword.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:10 AM
My guess is Siary will get the start. You still have Davis, Hardin, maybe Ligon, and maybe Stevens who can go tomorrow. You also have Loftin if he is healthy
Schulke will be available I'm sure too. They think he can pitch every game because of his motion.
DawgFromOxford
04-14-2024, 12:10 AM
2 straight innings we hit a go ahead home run and our pitchers can't find the plate. You've been pitching probably since middle school if not earlier and you can't do the one thing the job requires
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:11 AM
I don't feel good about any of the 5 you just named but Hardin and he is probably due for an off game.
They just came from behind 3 times to beat their hated rival. They will come hard tomorrow. We may need 15 runs to win it.
We will see. If they beat us, oh well. The stupid streak had to end some time. We do not need to let one series define our season, which we have done the last two seasons. We need to focus on stacking wins. Tomorrow is just the next opportunity to do that.
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:12 AM
OM is gonna do us a favor tomorrow. A loss is a good thing - lemonis isn't turning this around. Stop looking at rankings... rpi isn't biased. We're the 13th best team in the sec. Get. Rid. Of. The. Problem. Lemonis
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:12 AM
Nolan Stevens, Mikhai Grant, Dylan Cupp, and Highfill are not a bad nucleus to build around. You also will have Chance coming back as well as Downs. I mean if you fire Lemonis who is going to turn it around? All those kids will leave and you are in an even worse situation. It is a double edged sword.
Yeah, they're great.
Ha
Ha
Ha
Skydawg1
04-14-2024, 12:13 AM
He can't do anything. He's a weight around our necks... he's pulling us down. I'm fine with losing out if it gets rid of the problem - lemonisIt is half past midnight to move Mershon to leadoff and Lem just will NOT do it. Bat Larry 2nd, FFS. And WTF was the DH tonight??? That's inexcusable. Even with all that we still had a 4 run lead in the 8th and left the same guy in to to allow 3 straight runs.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:14 AM
OM is gonna do us a favor tomorrow. A loss is a good thing - lemonis isn't turning this around. Stop looking at rankings... rpi isn't biased. We're the 13th best team in the sec. Get. Rid. Of. The. Problem. Lemonis
Then stop supporting Mississippi State athletics. If you are rooting for your team to lose then find a new GD team. I do not give a rats ass who the coach is or who is playing. I will root for State. Always will. And this is coming from someone who wanted Lemonis fired after 22.
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:16 AM
Then stop supporting Mississippi State athletics. If you are rooting for your team to lose then find a new GD team. I do not give a rats ass who the coach is or who is playing. I will root for State. Always will. And this is coming from someone who wanted Lemonis fired after 22.
I always want us to win, but lemonis being fired will lead to more wins. He's not good. He's just isn't
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:17 AM
It is half past midnight to move Mershon to leadoff and Lem just will NOT do it. Bat Larry 2nd, FFS. And WTF was the DH tonight??? That's inexcusable. Even with all that we still had a 4 run lead in the 8th and left the same guy in to to allow 3 straight runs.
There has to be something up with Downs. That DH move made zero sense.
Bdawg
04-14-2024, 12:18 AM
It is half past midnight to move Mershon to leadoff and Lem just will NOT do it. Bat Larry 2nd, FFS. And WTF was the DH tonight??? That's inexcusable. Even with all that we still had a 4 run lead in the 8th and left the same guy in to to allow 3 straight runs.
Mershon
DJ
Hujsak
Hines
Then I don’t really care after that
Edit: that may be too high for Hines too
CaptainObvious
04-14-2024, 12:19 AM
With a loss tomorrow, I see no better then 7-9 SEC rest if way. I see 7 -8 the last 15. With no sweeps by State losing 5 of 6 to Vandy and Arkansas. So I see 3 more series wins unless State wins tomorrow. A win tomorrow gives us a shot at 15-15 SEC which would definitely be top half of the league. A loss tomorrow could also start a tailspin.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:19 AM
I always want us to win, but lemonis being fired will lead to more wins. He's not good. He's just isn't
All I see is you rooting for us to lose, which you are doing. I understand the frustration, but tomorrow is a new day. If we win awesome and if we lose it is not the end of the damn world. People are paid a bunch of money to make the decision on Lemonis. When the time comes that decision will be made.
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:22 AM
There has to be something up with Downs. That DH move made zero sense.
Lemonis did the same crap last Friday vs a lhp. I called out his nonsense, and I was told that McKenzie is a reverse splits guy. Ha ha ha... McKenzie is a lemonis recruit that can't hit lhp or rhp. Lemonis is a trash coach that rode a great team to a natty like Larry Coker and the clown at Auburn
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:24 AM
All I see is you rooting for us to lose, which you are doing. I understand the frustration, but tomorrow is a new day. If we win awesome and if we lose it is not the end of the damn world. People are paid a bunch of money to make the decision on Lemonis. When the time comes that decision will be made.
Lemonis has lowered the bar. A 2-seed is acceptable now bc lemonis
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:26 AM
Lemonis did the same crap last Friday vs a lhp. I called out his nonsense, and I was told that McKenzie is a reverse splits guy. Ha ha ha... McKenzie is a lemonis recruit that can't hit lhp or rhp. Lemonis is a trash coach that rode a great team to a natty like Larry Coker and the clown at Auburn
We don't have access to scouting reports so I typically refrain making criticisms about moves like that because the reverse splits thing was likely true.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:26 AM
Mershon
DJ
Hujsak
Hines
Then I don’t really care after that
Edit: that may be too high for Hines too
A good lineup. I too would probably kick Hines down. Obviously struggling. May move him to 6 or 7.
Mershon
DJ
Hujsak
Downs
Chance
Hines
Long
Larry
3B
At least how I would roll a lineup out for tomorrow
CaptainObvious
04-14-2024, 12:27 AM
Then stop supporting Mississippi State athletics. If you are rooting for your team to lose then find a new GD team. I do not give a rats ass who the coach is or who is playing. I will root for State. Always will. And this is coming from someone who wanted Lemonis fired after 22.
He should have been. Do you think a good coach would be clinking along making bad decision after bad decision?
I could see Ole Miss putting Bianco out to pasture if he doesn't get them turned around this year.
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:28 AM
We don't have access to scouting reports so I typically refrain making criticisms about moves like that because the reverse splits thing was likely true.
If it were true, McKenzie woulda got the start tonight. It isn't true
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:29 AM
He should have been. Do you think a good coach would be clinking along making bad decision after bad decision?
I could see Ole Miss putting Bianco out to pasture if he doesn't get them turned around this year.
Again, I wanted Lemonis gone in 2022. So to tell me he should have been fired is preaching to the choir. But he is what we have at this point so it is either support what we got, which I have done through multiple shitty coaching tenures, or go against every fiber in my being and root against us.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:32 AM
Lemonis has lowered the bar. A 2-seed is acceptable now bc lemonis
Who is saying that is the bar? Am I saying that? Are you saying that? No one is saying that except maybe Lemonis. Again, the decision will be made at the end of the year on his coaching future. I do believe that a 2 seed will save him because I do not think Selmon cares about baseball, and since it is not a revenue producing sport I cannot really blame him. When baseball can give him an 8 figure check every year then he will start caring a lot more.
preachermatt83
04-14-2024, 12:33 AM
Nolan Stevens, Mikhai Grant, Dylan Cupp, and Highfill are not a bad nucleus to build around. You also will have Chance coming back as well as Downs. I mean if you fire Lemonis who is going to turn it around? All those kids will leave and you are in an even worse situation. It is a double edged sword.
I can promise you all of those will not leave if Lemonis is fired. Not to mention the new coach will bring in several transfers. Next year is gonna suck either way. So how?s the time to start over
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:35 AM
It's a moot point anyway bc once we drop out of the rankings, we aren't making the tourney. That number by our name is the only thing saving our resume. We have a trash rpi
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:36 AM
I can promise you all of those will not leave if Lemonis is fired. Not to mention the new coach will bring in several transfers. Next year is gonna suck either way. So how?s the time to start over
Maybe you are right. We think every coach is always going to bring in transfers and in baseball transfers are even more of a crapshoot than the other sports. I do agree that next year is a down year though. Like I said, I am not arguing with anyone Lemonis should be fired. I have wanted him fired for two years.
preachermatt83
04-14-2024, 12:37 AM
Lemonis has lowered the bar. A 2-seed is acceptable now bc lemonis
And In a ?good year? none the less. Smh. It?s pathetic
CaptainObvious
04-14-2024, 12:38 AM
Again, I wanted Lemonis gone in 2022. So to tell me he should have been fired is preaching to the choir. But he is what we have at this point so it is either support what we got, which I have done through multiple shitty coaching tenures, or go against every fiber in my being and root against us.
Oh, I will never root against State. But I'm damn sure gonna bitch about the bucket boy still being the coach unless he gets State to host and in a Super Regional. His crappy recruiting and worse decision making has earned him a plank walk if he doesn't!
I think 15-15 is a fair expectation and should mean a Top 16 spot unless he loses all his midweek games rest of the way. I fear he is going to need that UAB game with 2 of our remaining midweeks against Alcorn and North Alabama. We have 4 total midweeks left if we don't make up UAB. Tomorrow is a must win for Lemonis. Maybe not in the grand scheme of things but to the majority of the Fanbase, tomorrow just became a Must Win!
msstate7
04-14-2024, 12:39 AM
#45 in rpi. Only lsu and Missouri are worse.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:41 AM
Who is saying that is the bar? Am I saying that? Are you saying that? No one is saying that except maybe Lemonis. Again, the decision will be made at the end of the year on his coaching future. I do believe that a 2 seed will save him because I do not think Selmon cares about baseball, and since it is not a revenue producing sport I cannot really blame him. When baseball can give him an 8 figure check every year then he will start caring a lot more.
We'll see what the baseball shareholders have to say and how they feel. We're going to just have to let it play out regardless obviously.
We're better but Lemonis is on the hot seat and I don't know that he has done enough to earn goodwill at this point. It's like win a series and then lose to Central Arkansas. Dominate Ole Miss on Friday and then come out and WTF on Saturday.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:43 AM
Oh, I will never root against State. But I'm damn sure gonna bitch about the bucket boy still being the coach unless he gets State to host and in a Super Regional. His crappy recruiting and worse decision making has earned him a plank walk if he doesn't!
I think 15-15 is a fair expectation and should mean a Top 16 spot unless he loses all his midweek games rest of the way. I fear he is going to need that UAB game with 2 of our remaining midweeks against Alcorn and North Alabama. We have 4 total midweeks left if we don't make up UAB. Tomorrow is a must win for Lemonis. Maybe not in the grand scheme of things but to the majority of the Fanbase, tomorrow just became a Must Win!
We're not playing UAB. That game got cancelled. And Alcorn and North Alabama might be cancelled too. North Alabama certainly will. We'll probably play Alcorn because they're an in state school.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:44 AM
Oh, I will never root against State. But I'm damn sure gonna bitch about the bucket boy still being the coach unless he gets State to host and in a Super Regional. His crappy recruiting and worse decision making has earned him a plank walk if he doesn't!
I think 15-15 is a fair expectation and should mean a Top 16 spot unless he loses all his midweek games rest of the way. I fear he is going to need that UAB game with 2 of our remaining midweeks against Alcorn and North Alabama. We have 4 total midweeks left if we don't make up UAB. Tomorrow is a must win for Lemonis. Maybe not in the grand scheme of things but to the majority of the Fanbase, tomorrow just became a Must Win!
It is a must win because it is the next one. We need to get over this obsession with Ole Miss. They are our rival, but that is it. Some of our fans have a downright unhealthy obsession with everything they do. If they beat us tomorrow then oh well. We had plenty of chances tonight to take care of business. Tomorrow does not need to be treated any differently than a Sunday against any other team.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:45 AM
#45 in rpi. Only lsu and Missouri are worse.
That's sort of what I'm saying. We could win like 13-14 SEC games and get left out. But win/loss wise that isn't an embarrassing season. But if we miss a regional I don't think we bring him back regardless.
CaptainObvious
04-14-2024, 12:46 AM
Who is saying that is the bar? Am I saying that? Are you saying that? No one is saying that except maybe Lemonis. Again, the decision will be made at the end of the year on his coaching future. I do believe that a 2 seed will save him because I do not think Selmon cares about baseball, and since it is not a revenue producing sport I cannot really blame him. When baseball can give him an 8 figure check every year then he will start caring a lot more.
Well Selmon better figure it out quick or he will be a short timer too. As good as it is making the NCAA basketball tourney, basketball still sucks at MSU. Women's basketball crashed and burned essentially 3 of the last 4 years. Football is a 7-5 at best program into perpetuity now that Okla and Texas are in the league. So Baseball better get right real quick or Selmon's tenure will be a short one.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:47 AM
It is a must win because it is the next one. We need to get over this obsession with Ole Miss. They are our rival, but that is it. Some of our fans have a downright unhealthy obsession with everything they do. If they beat us tomorrow then oh well. We had plenty of chances tonight to take care of business. Tomorrow does not need to be treated any differently than a Sunday against any other team.
It really is kind of a must win regardless for us anyway. Same as it would be with any other SEC team. We just have to hope that we pull Siary when he is tired.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:48 AM
Well Selmon better figure it out quick or he will be a short timer too. As good as it is making the NCAA basketball tourney, basketball still sucks at MSU. Women's basketball crashed and burned essentially 3 of the last 4 years. Football is a 7-5 at best program into perpetuity now that Okla and Texas are in the league. So Baseball better get right real quick or Selmon's tenure will be a short one.
Based on some of the names in the right field boxes I think Selmon will get the idea.
CaptainObvious
04-14-2024, 12:51 AM
It is a must win because it is the next one. We need to get over this obsession with Ole Miss. They are our rival, but that is it. Some of our fans have a downright unhealthy obsession with everything they do. If they beat us tomorrow then oh well. We had plenty of chances tonight to take care of business. Tomorrow does not need to be treated any differently than a Sunday against any other team.
But it IS!!! They own us in football. We own them in baseball. It has been that way for 75 years. Check the record books.
And like it or not, neither Fanbase gives two craps about basketball unless they are winning bigly!
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 12:53 AM
And here's more reality. Let's assume we blow a game every weekend going forward. Very possible with this team. That alone would put us at 12 losses in the SEC. If Arkansas sweeps us that's two more not including the blown loss to Arkansas. So that's 14. Vandy on the road is probably a series loss as well. So that's 15 losses right there and if Vandy sweeps us it's 16.
Our margin for error is pretty close to zero. And Heaven forbid we lose to Memphis on the road.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 12:54 AM
But it IS!!! They own us in football. We own them in baseball. It has been that way for 75 years. Check the record books.
And like it or not, neither Fanbase gives two craps about basketball unless they are winning bigly!
No it is not. It is just another game. That is why they are ahead of us. They do not focus on us. They do not care. Our entire existence and success in every sport is predicated on beating them. It is ass backwards.
Todd4State
04-14-2024, 01:07 AM
No it is not. It is just another game. That is why they are ahead of us. They do not focus on us. They do not care. Our entire existence and success in every sport is predicated on beating them. It is ass backwards.
Ummm...they definitely care about us.
ArrowDawg
04-14-2024, 01:21 AM
But it IS!!! They own us in football. We own them in baseball. It has been that way for 75 years. Check the record books.
And like it or not, neither Fanbase gives two craps about basketball unless they are winning bigly!
I've never wanted to own OM in baseball. I never considered them to be in our universe in baseball. Head-to-head, that's been the reality. Unfortunately, to the outside world, the two programs are likely seen as even since we both have one national title. That fact disgusts me to no end. We should have more titles.
Dawgface
04-14-2024, 06:29 AM
After we scored 2 more in the eight I turned it off. How did we manage to screw this up?
somebodyshotmypaw
04-14-2024, 06:29 AM
Long?s home run sucked the air out of the stadium. Then Long?s behavior and the ejection of Bianco fired the crowd and the Ole Miss team back up. I?m sick of Long. And his behavior off the field is 1000 times worse than his behavior on it. There are several dads of MSU females that are very close to driving to Starkville to handle things the old fashioned way. If he?s not careful, he will find himself wrapped in a blue tarp at the bottom of some pond. He can?t leave Starkville fast enough for me. He has a bad reputation off the field.
basedog
04-14-2024, 06:51 AM
Long?s home run sucked the air out of the stadium. Then Long?s behavior and the ejection of Bianco fired the crowd and the Ole Miss team back up. I?m sick of Long. And his behavior off the field is 1000 times worse than his behavior on it. There are several dads of MSU females that are very close to driving to Starkville to handle things the old fashioned way. If he?s not careful, he will find himself wrapped in a blue tarp at the bottom of some pond. He can?t leave Starkville fast enough for me. He has a bad reputation off the field.
Wow, that has some sting to it. No doubt his emotion swayed the air on both sides. I hate hearing about his (rumor) behavior with his personal life, not good, I have three daughters.
Offshore Dawg
04-14-2024, 08:43 AM
Then why haven't charges been brought up. Are his actions being handled like Baylor football.
StarkVegasSteve
04-14-2024, 09:26 AM
Long?s home run sucked the air out of the stadium. Then Long?s behavior and the ejection of Bianco fired the crowd and the Ole Miss team back up. I?m sick of Long. And his behavior off the field is 1000 times worse than his behavior on it. There are several dads of MSU females that are very close to driving to Starkville to handle things the old fashioned way. If he?s not careful, he will find himself wrapped in a blue tarp at the bottom of some pond. He can?t leave Starkville fast enough for me. He has a bad reputation off the field.
Well that is some strong accusations. That makes it sound Baylor-ish. I have heard he is not the greatest guy but not anything worse than just the typical D bag stuff you hear about from most athletes. I mean not really that surprising with how he acts on the field.
somebodyshotmypaw
04-14-2024, 09:43 AM
Well that is some strong accusations. That makes it sound Baylor-ish. I have heard he is not the greatest guy but not anything worse than just the typical D bag stuff you hear about from most athletes. I mean not really that surprising with how he acts on the field.
To clarify, I’m not accusing him of any illegal sexual assault or anything. I just know he’s very verbally inappropriate with females, vulgar, and can be threatening. And word is he did do one thing to a female that could certainly be considered assault (but not sexual assault). His reputation is not good with behavior. He needs to clean up his act on a personal level. That’s much more important than baseball.
DEDawg
04-14-2024, 10:27 AM
Prob time to lock this thread up
msstate7
04-14-2024, 10:29 AM
I think we handled this loss pretty well
Haha
dawgday166
04-14-2024, 10:31 AM
I think we handled this loss pretty well
Haha
Bout the same way we handle 99% of our losses.
Pancho
04-14-2024, 03:19 PM
lotta friendly girls around baseball guys.
somebodyshotmypaw
04-14-2024, 05:37 PM
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