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CaptainObvious
04-09-2024, 11:10 PM
If they keep this mediocrity up, beating most of them will hurt our RPI rather then help it. Goodness, Auburn, Missouri, and Florida Are BAD! Alabama lost to South Bama. Auburn lost to Alabama State. Missouri lost to SIUE. Florida got 15 run ruled by FSU. Kentucky lost to Samford.

Glad we got rained out against UAB. State probably avoided another mid-week embarassment.

DownwardDawg
04-10-2024, 12:25 AM
We are a top 10 SEC team. Probably higher. Maybe top 7.

Todd4State
04-10-2024, 12:30 AM
Auburn lost to a SWAC team- yikes!

Florida isn't that great and Florida State is plus that was in Tallahassee and FSU was out for blood.

Mizzou is legit bad.

South Alabama is not that bad- probably pretty close to USM level.

Kentucky lost on the road- Samford is a solid mid major.

Skydawg1
04-10-2024, 01:12 AM
Remember, we almost lost at Samford. They are good. So is South. Odd that KY traveled to B'ham, though...wonder whose idea that was?

Leeshouldveflanked
04-10-2024, 05:42 AM
We are a top 10 SEC team. Probably higher. Maybe top 7.
Maybe SEC is not good this year?

Coach34
04-10-2024, 08:02 AM
Maybe SEC is not good this year?

https://www.warrennolan.com/baseball/2022/rpi-conference

SEC is the top ranked conference

ZedFedder
04-10-2024, 08:17 AM
I was relieved we cancelled.

BrunswickDawg
04-10-2024, 09:47 AM
Maybe SEC is not good this year?

We are really starting to see the impacts of MLB cutting 40 minor league teams and the reduction of the draft from 40 rounds to 20. That's a potential increase of over 1,400 players for the college player pool (yes, I know probably a third of those spots are international players). That is having a massive trickle down impact on college baseball and increasing quality and parity across the board. The pool is going to get deeper with the new minor league 165 player roster limit that went into effect this year.

People need to start adjusting their attitudes about other programs, or they are going to spend a lot of time being angry about midweek games.

Commercecomet24
04-10-2024, 10:38 AM
We are really starting to see the impacts of MLB cutting 40 minor league teams and the reduction of the draft from 40 rounds to 20. That's a potential increase of over 1,400 players for the college player pool (yes, I know probably a third of those spots are international players). That is having a massive trickle down impact on college baseball and increasing quality and parity across the board. The pool is going to get deeper with the new minor league 165 player roster limit that went into effect this year.

People need to start adjusting their attitudes about other programs, or they are going to spend a lot of time being angry about midweek games.

Yep. I agree 100%. Knew this was gonna catch up at every level at some point. The level of competition and talent has increased dramatically over the last couple of years in college AND juco. Trickle down effect

CaptainObvious
04-10-2024, 12:01 PM
Yep. I agree 100%. New this was gonna catch up at every level at some point. The level of competition and talent has increased dramatically over the last couple of years in college AND juco. Trickle down effect

Yes. Take a look at East Central Community College in Decatur. They may be the best Juco team in the country. In freaking Decatur, Ms.!!!

Commercecomet24
04-10-2024, 12:05 PM
Yes. Take a look at East Central Community College in Decatur. They may be the best Juco team in the country. In freaking Decatur, Ms.!!!

Exactly! If you want go watch some fun baseball go to a couple juco games. There's a lot of talent and you'll see some good ball. Lot of really good arms and some really good power hitters as well. They're non nil entitled players and still play hard trying to get drafted or d1 offer.

Coach34
04-10-2024, 12:08 PM
There is also an NIL and transfer impact on this as well making more parity. Transfer rule is really making it easier for G5 schools to get depth

PGHBulldogBG
04-10-2024, 12:13 PM
SEC baseball seems down this year compared to the past couple, but it’s still the best conference from top to bottom

Coach34
04-10-2024, 12:17 PM
SEC baseball seems down this year compared to the past couple, but it’s still the best conference from top to bottom

The SEC has 5 of the Top 10 spots in the baseball poll including 4 of the Top 5. How exactly is that “down”?

Todd4State
04-10-2024, 05:16 PM
We are really starting to see the impacts of MLB cutting 40 minor league teams and the reduction of the draft from 40 rounds to 20. That's a potential increase of over 1,400 players for the college player pool (yes, I know probably a third of those spots are international players). That is having a massive trickle down impact on college baseball and increasing quality and parity across the board. The pool is going to get deeper with the new minor league 165 player roster limit that went into effect this year.

People need to start adjusting their attitudes about other programs, or they are going to spend a lot of time being angry about midweek games.

And our coach needs to adjust his attitude about making them Colby Holcombe experiment time.

CaptainObvious
04-10-2024, 05:18 PM
The SEC has 5 of the Top 10 spots in the baseball poll including 4 of the Top 5. How exactly is that “down”?

In the same manner when the conference is down in football. The conference is extremely Top Heavy!

I think a quick peek at the bottom 2/3 teams non-conf and current conf record shows how big the gap is. People make fun of UKs record against the bottom teams but have those teams been bottom consistently or just recently? What the heck happened to LSU and Florida? They were both Top 5 Nationally and now bottom 5 SEC. Yep. The conference is down as a whole.

BuckyIsAB****
04-10-2024, 05:43 PM
Baseball season rankings are absolutely meaningless. Doesnt make me feel any better about losing to UCA or Austin Peay or blowing 2 of 3 vs Florida who got swept by Mizzou who lost to a bad team.

Commercecomet24
04-10-2024, 05:49 PM
Baseball season rankings are absolutely meaningless. Doesnt make me feel any better about losing to UCA or Austin Peay or blowing 2 of 3 vs Florida who got swept by Mizzou who lost to a bad team.

You can say that about rankings in pretty much every sport. Outside of the top 5-6 in each sport the rest can be interchangeable. You have to wait and see who's standing at the end and see what conference against conference records look like. By the end of the season it'll show once again sec baseball is the best by far.

Coach34
04-10-2024, 07:16 PM
In the same manner when the conference is down in football. The conference is extremely Top Heavy!

I think a quick peek at the bottom 2/3 teams non-conf and current conf record shows how big the gap is. People make fun of UKs record against the bottom teams but have those teams been bottom consistently or just recently? What the heck happened to LSU and Florida? They were both Top 5 Nationally and now bottom 5 SEC. Yep. The conference is down as a whole.

It's going to end up like every other year in the SEC. 10 teams get in the Tourney and about 6 of them make the Supers

Commercecomet24
04-10-2024, 07:51 PM
It's going to end up like every other year in the SEC. 10 teams get in the Tourney and about 6 of them make the Supers

Yep, this.

BuckyIsAB****
04-10-2024, 08:24 PM
You can say that about rankings in pretty much every sport. Outside of the top 5-6 in each sport the rest can be interchangeable. You have to wait and see who's standing at the end and see what conference against conference records look like. By the end of the season it'll show once again sec baseball is the best by far.

I agree with you

Commercecomet24
04-10-2024, 08:59 PM
I agree with you

You better! Lol!

CaptainObvious
04-10-2024, 09:29 PM
I absolutely understand that the ranking at the end of regular season is what matters before the tournament participants are selected. But Why? How do we know pollsters will get it right?

They never get it right on pre-season polls.

Was Florida really Expected to be the 4th best team? Why? Was LSU really expected to be the 7th best team? Why?

Last year, Ole Miss was ranked 3rd pre-season. They finished dead-last in the SEC.
In 2022, State was ranked 4th pre-season. They finished dead-last in the SEC.

Why does a pollster believe a team that lost 2 to Austin Peay, 1 to Central Arkansas and 1 to South Alabama is the 15th ranked team? Same pollster that had LSU and Florida incorrectly ranked in the Top 7.

Far too often where you start is nowhere near where you finish. My point. Ignore any poll prior to May 1. By then you will have an idea who the best teams are.

Commercecomet24
04-10-2024, 09:52 PM
I absolutely understand that the ranking at the end of regular season is what matters before the tournament participants are selected. But Why? How do we know pollsters will get it right?

They never get it right on pre-season polls.

Was Florida really Expected to be the 4th best team? Why? Was LSU really expected to be the 7th best team? Why?

Last year, Ole Miss was ranked 3rd pre-season. They finished dead-last in the SEC.
In 2022, State was ranked 4th pre-season. They finished dead-last in the SEC.

Why does a pollster believe a team that lost 2 to Austin Peay, 1 to Central Arkansas and 1 to South Alabama is the 15th ranked team? Same pollster that had LSU and Florida incorrectly ranked in the Top 7.

Far too often where you start is nowhere near where you finish. My point. Ignore any poll prior to May 1. By then you will have an idea who the best teams are.

You're right. It's cool to be ranked definitely for the publicity and all, but pre season and in season, until much later are pretty much just people guessing based on what happened last year. As me and Bucky agreed it's pretty much the same in every sport.