Flarda game 1 thread.......

[Saltydog]

Their SP is good. We're gonna need a great effort on the bump.

[magrooder]

1-0 Gators solo shot out to right

[Saltydog]

1-0 Gators solo shot out to right

Gonna be a long weekend I'm afraid......

[msstate7]

Gonna be a long weekend I'm afraid......

It's always a long weekend when we visit them

[magrooder]

Didn't look like he caught it clean on the homer, but the wind blowing out that way pushed it over. Stephen looked good other than that.

[msstate7]

Didn't look like he caught it clean on the homer, but the wind blowing out that way pushed it over. Stephen looked good other than that.

They have big time power. Don't like the wind blowing out

[Saltydog]

Yeah we've traditionally struggled with them, especially down there.

[msstate7]

Florida announcers are well informed

[Saltydog]

C'mon Kohler, do something different, get a hit. . . . .

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Kohlers swing looks very weak. Was he a good hitter at Memphis?

[Saltydog]

It won't be the last one he gives up.......He has to have pinpoint control because he has no movement on his FB......

[preachermatt83]

Kohler remaining in the lineup is literally an automatic out. Idc how good his defense is. He has to sit.

[Coach34]

We are a pitching and D team

[Saltydog]

He batted .330 and had double digits in HR's (11 or 12).......Goat doing work.......

[Coach34]

Need to get something here in the 3rd with leadoff on and Larry up

[msstate7]

Larry's first 2 ABs have been horrible

[KOdawg1]

Bunch of uncompetitive and weak ABs

[Saltydog]

Bad challenge by Lemonis.......He was out......

[msstate7]

Lemonis is horrible at reviews

[magrooder]

Good at bat by Mershon, made the pitcher work and got the walk

[magrooder]

Stolen base by Mershon results in a run with the single by Dakota 1-1

[magrooder]

Another homer by flarda 2-1

[magrooder]

tied up 2-2 Chance with a RBI single

[Saltydog]

C'mon Larry.......Time to deliver.........

[parabrave]

And Kohler and Chance with the big hits.

[parabrave]

Way to take one for the team.

[msstate7]

C'mon Larry.......Time to deliver.........

He did haha

[Saltydog]

We gotta chance to get some separation right here. Need Mershon and DJ to do some work here.

[msstate7]

Larry can't tag on that play for this reason

[Saltydog]

Break this thing open Hunter.....

[parabrave]

Mershon does what your supposed to do with a guy on 3rd and one out, get him in anyway you can.

[parabrave]

And Fl just had one of MSUs innings from last year.

[msstate7]

That was an awful walk... not even competitive

[preachermatt83]

Hujsak hits more pop ups than anybody I?ve ever seen

[magrooder]

Mershon does what your supposed to do with a guy on 3rd and one out, get him in anyway you can.

Mershon just makes things happen

[KOdawg1]

Hold the lead boys

[Coach34]

Big inning. Got to get out there and keep on it. No free passes

[Coach34]

and there is the free pass

[magrooder]

and there is the free pass

Fortunately it didn't hurt that time. Stephen has been fairly efficient except for the two long balls.

[msstate7]

Give us a few more Stephen

[Saltydog]

Kahl pitching well but we need more runs. They can score them in bunches.

[Coach34]

Fortunately it didn't hurt that time. Stephen has been fairly efficient except for the two long balls.

Purdue trying to make himself some money last 2 starts

[Commercecomet24]

I'm glad I didn't play baseball with some of y'all, lol. These players aren't gonna bat 1.000 and pitchers ain't gonna get everybody out. This is a good baseball team and we're gonna compete and win a lot of games and we're fun to watch and gamers. Enjoy it,

[magrooder]

Ump can't decide if that low pitch is a strike or a ball.

[Saltydog]

This guy carving us up like the lefty from aTm last Saturday but he's going to have good stuff, he's their former Friday night starter.

[EdwardDrayton]

I'm glad I didn't play baseball with some of y'all, lol. These players aren't gonna bat 1.000 and pitchers ain't gonna get everybody out. This is a good baseball team and we're gonna compete and win a lot of games and we're fun to watch and gamers. Enjoy it,

^^^^^^^

[Commercecomet24]

Ump can't decide if that low pitch is a strike or a ball.

I've pretty much given up on college umps. They're not just inconsistent but inconsistent from pitch to pitch.

[Coach34]

Ump can't decide if that low pitch is a strike or a ball.

yeah. He has been super consistent on the corners- but he is back and forth on where the knee is

[Commercecomet24]

I like khals mound presence. He's a competitor.

[Saltydog]

If he could get a little movement on that FB he could be really good.

[magrooder]

Stephen with a big strike out to keep it 5-2

[msstate7]

I like Stephen

[Leroy Jenkins]

This portal class has been good.

[Commercecomet24]

If he could get a little movement on that FB he could be really good.

He gets a ton of swing and miss up, it's got life there. He gets in trouble when the ball gets down and doesn't have the same life.

[Commercecomet24]

I like Stephen

He got big stones

[Leroy Jenkins]

Long's bat is quicker than you'd think.

[Commercecomet24]

Long's bat is quicker than you'd think.

I like him a lot. He's a baseball players!

[magrooder]

Dang, I thought Mershon had poked it past second.

[Commercecomet24]

Dang, I thought Mershon had poked it past second.

Yeah that was another run.

[preachermatt83]

This pitcher for florida(the original Friday night guy) locates extremely well. He hits his spot 95 percent of the time

[Saltydog]

Their SP is good. We're gonna need a great effort on the bump.

I'd like to know how many times DJ has been intentionally walked this year and then Hines struck out behind him.

[Commercecomet24]

This pitcher for florida(the original Friday night guy) locates extremely well. He hits his spot 95 percent of the time

Nasty arm slot too

[magrooder]

Long comes through with a play for the out

[preachermatt83]

I really like the way Johnny Long plays the game

[Commercecomet24]

Long comes through with a play for the out

Love that guy!

[BrunswickDawg]

Love Khal taking it to Cags!

[preachermatt83]

Get through the 6th and then go to the pen

[Commercecomet24]

Get through the 6th and then go to the pen

Yep. He's done his job and another great start

[preachermatt83]

Absolutely gem by Stephen

[Saltydog]

Hell'uva effort for Kahl. I'd kinda be surprised if he comes back out.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I think he likes being P1.

[Commercecomet24]

It's early I know but this is the kind of pitching staff and defense that can make a deep run in post season

[magrooder]

Great game by Stephen. Need the bullpen to hold the line

[msstate7]

It's early I know but this is the kind of pitching staff and defense that can make a deep run in post season

Need dohm and/or loftin (to emerge). Need another big time arm

[Commercecomet24]

Need dohm and/or loftin (to emerge). Need another big time arm

I agree but this staff has depth to it. We can mix and match like not many other teams. I like where we're at provided no injuries. We won the natty with basically one and half starting pitchers and a great pen.

ETA I believe Dohm was on his way until the imjury. Hope he comes back strong

[Saltydog]

Be nice if Chance could pick up a two out hit right here.....

[magrooder]

Chance comes through with the RBI single

[Commercecomet24]

I love the scrap on this team

[Commercecomet24]

Be nice if Chance could pick up a two out hit right here.....

Good call!

[msstate7]

I agree but this staff has depth to it. We can mix and match like not many other teams. I like where we're at provided no injuries. We won the natty with basically one and half starting pitchers and a great pen.

ETA I believe Dohm was on his way until the imjury. Hope he comes back strong

Oh yeah, I think dohm was primed for a big season. Health is my only concern with him

[Commercecomet24]

Oh yeah, I think dohm was primed for a big season. Health is my only concern with him

Yep

[magrooder]

Schuelke with the pick off

[Commercecomet24]

Cam is a dang good athlete too

[magrooder]

Come on man. You can't miss that pop up

[Commercecomet24]

Dang Hines

[Commercecomet24]

Just let schuelke take it next time.

[Saltydog]

I know Davis and Auger are warming but I'd stick with Schuelke until he got in trouble. He's pitching well.

[magrooder]

Hujsak with the great catch to end the inning. Hines needs to give him a big ol hug

[KOdawg1]

I'm old enough to remember when people said Huge Sack couldn't play CF for us

[Saltydog]

He kinda scares me out there sometime but he's a good athlete.

[Commercecomet24]

I'm old enough to remember when people said Huge Sack couldn't play CF for us

Lol he is an extremely good athlete and a heckuva a competitor. From people I've talked too he's also a great teammate and leader too.

[mparkerfd20]

Larry is fast but just not a great hitter

[Leroy Jenkins]

Mersh saved a DP, that was some quick thinking.

[mparkerfd20]

Davis isn't even close

[Bdawg]

Davis needs to settle quick

[Saltydog]

Davis aint' even close right now......Should've stuck with Schuelke.......

[preachermatt83]

Get Davis out of the dang game. Good grief

[Bdawg]

One more ball and yank him

[Bdawg]

Davis aint' even close right now......Should've stuck with Schuelke.......

Why mess with a good thing??

[preachermatt83]

If we let Davis pitch to another batter we deserve to lose

[Bdawg]

Dang Davis. 4 run lead! Throw strikes. Go get your mind right for tomorrow. How many he throw in the mid week?

[HoopsDawg]

I think going to Davis was the right move. He just didn't execute tonight

[magrooder]

That was close, but got the out.

[msstate7]

I think going to Davis was the right move. He just didn't execute tonight

Baseball... sometimes you get punished for he right decision and rewarded for the wrong decision

[msstate7]

Gott strand that runner

[magrooder]

Walks = scores

[preachermatt83]

Baseball is such a funny game. Dang Davis walking two batters he faced killed us

[msstate7]

Get a run!!!

[Leroy Jenkins]

Long having a game.

[Saltydog]

Well, that tightened it up quickly.....

[magrooder]

Need an insurance run or three

[Bdawg]

And both walks score. Dang. Let’s go! Get some back

[Commercecomet24]

I think going to Davis was the right move. He just didn't execute tonight

Agreed. He's been excellent all year. Ain't gonna have it every time.

[CaptainObvious]

I think going to Davis was the right move. He just didn't execute tonight
Going to Davis May have been okay. Leaving him to pitch to the second guy after a 4 pitch walk where NO PITCH was within 8 inches of the plate and 2 of the 4 were at least a foot out of the zone was Stupid!

[mparkerfd20]

That was a high ball. Catcher framed well tho

[Bdawg]

Ump widening things out for FL!!

[msstate7]

Going to Davis May have been okay. Leaving him to pitch to the second guy after a 4 pitch walk where NO PITCH was within 8 inches of the plate and 2 of the 4 were at least a foot out of the zone was Stupid!

Making a move to a guy that isn't hot probably isn't a smart move

[CaptainObvious]

Damn those 3 batters in the 9th for State looked like they didn't belong in the lineup. If State loses this one, it will be because Davis got to pitch to the second guy in the eighth.

[Schultzy]

Whoever is calling pitches for us needs to hurry up…he iced Davis before his first pitch and it pissed Davis off.

[magrooder]

He should have been out on a strike out. Ump screwed Augur on the inside pitch.

[mparkerfd20]

Well that sux

[Bdawg]

My goodness

[CaptainObvious]

[QUOTE=msstate7;1591695]Making a move to a guy that isn't hot probably isn't a smart move


State about to 2023 this game!!!! #^^%*%^*^

[msstate7]

Thank God college coaches love bunts

[magrooder]

Well they gave us one out anyway

[msstate7]

Man, if I were gonna use Stevens, I'd have gone to him to start the 9th

[Saltydog]

Bringing in a freshman in this situation. Oh boy, here we go........

[Bdawg]

Please give us a DP!

[Cowbell]

Bringing in a freshman in this situation. Oh boy, here we go........

As much as I believe this team is vastly improved, some of our coaching moves are head scratchers

[preachermatt83]

Smith was off and auger was a little off. That is gonna cost us it looks like.

[CaptainObvious]

Davis and Auger looked like they were being coached by Foxhall. Trying throw it as hard as possible no matter where it goes. The bunt helped Auger out.

[msstate7]

1 more

[msstate7]

Kohler should be done

[Bdawg]

Got to mix it up

[msstate7]

If we lose this game, I think a tailspin is about to happen

[magrooder]

Unreal.

[Bdawg]

Not even close

[HoopsDawg]

Breaking ball- wow.

[Coursesuper]

If we lose this game, I think a tailspin is about to happen

You have to be bipolar.

[Saltydog]

Game......

[mparkerfd20]

****ity **** ****.... ****!!!!!!!!!!

[Bdawg]

Walks walks walks…. Freaking walks

[msstate7]

This will be the game we look back and say that's when lemonis' era was over.

[Bdawg]

Just BS!!

[Mjoelner34]

100% on Lemons. It wasn't broke and he broke it pulling Schuelke.

[Commercecomet24]

Sickening!

[CaptainObvious]

How digging embarrassing

[HoopsDawg]

This could really be a spiral.

[BeardoMSU]

Jfc that was bad. Just gave it to em.

[Quaoarsking]

This is a prime example of why Lemonis should go even if we make a Regional (which we probably will). He's been underachieving on the W/L record relative to our talent level for 3 years now. He's not doing anything special. Any decent coach would be equal or better to his record.

[msstate7]

You have to be bipolar.

This was a back breaking loss. Not sure what you wanna hear

[BeardoMSU]

Makes me sick.

[Bdawg]

Now we are back to just get one out of the series. Had a chance to take the series with win tonight

[msstate7]

This could really be a spiral.

We will certainly be swept now. Just gotta hope we can handle Georgia

[Cowbell]

Everyone on this board knew it. We should have never even pitched to Caglione.

[Saltydog]

Lol, typical State. Cannot stand prosperity. You could smell it coming when the first two batters reached. We likely get swept now.

[maroonmania]

What a choke job. And its almost always because of walks. Kohler had a chance to make a play to end it though and didn't do it.

[msudawg1200]

100% on Lemons. It wasn't broke and he broke it pulling Schuelke.
Many baseball coaches can't help themselves. They just can't. They have to "tinker" to think they're "coaching". My high school coach was the world's worst. If things are working let the players play.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This will be the game we look back and say that's when lemonis' era was over.

That cannot come soon enough. His decision making is legitimately dog shit and it has been dog shit since his first year. Go back to the 19 World Series and the decision to pull Ginn, who was cruising, to put in Leibelt who had not been able to find the strike zone in 2 games. He was bailed out in 21 by Jordan and Allen. His decision to continue to start McCleod almost cost us not once but twice. And then every decision he has made since July 21 has been bad.

[Bothrops]

I blame our offense here. You can't have that many quiet innings on the back side against a more talented team. This season starts over next weekend.

[cheewgumm]

Feel for Stevens .

Got the best player in CBB to ground out to 3rd to end it.

Tough play there.

[CaptainObvious]

This was a back breaking loss. Not sure what you wanna hear

I am too DAMN invested in MSU sports for my Age!!! I almost vomited and I am not kidding. I need to step away from watching the Lemonis shitshow for sure!!!

[Saltydog]

Lemonis micromanaged this game to a loss. Should've never brought in Davis. Schuelke was pitching well. Should've started him for the 8th and then went to Davis if he ran into trouble.

[Commercecomet24]

I blame our offense here. You can't have that many quiet innings on the back side against a more talented team. This season starts over next weekend.

6-2 with 6 outs to get? Not the offense fault on this one

[maroonmania]

Feel for Stevens .

Got the best player in CBB to ground out to 3rd to end it.

Tough play there.

Yep, if Kohler fields the ball there all he has to do is go touch 3rd. If If If

[msstate7]

Feel for Stevens .

Got the best player in CBB to ground out to 3rd to end it.

Tough play there.

Kohler is an anchor around our neck. We don't have many options bc lemonis is very overrated as a recruiter, but a move has to be made

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

The big shift with the tying run on 2nd was next level stupid. Dude took a softball swing trying to punch it oppo

[Todd4State]

This game wasn't lost because he pulled Schuelke. They had 2-3 LH hitters coming up and LH hitters typically hit submarine pitchers well.

This game was lost because Tyler and Auger didn't do their jobs. Period.

[bobtail bob]

This is a pretty good team we have. The got dam coach is la burden that they have to drag around and win in spite of him.

[magrooder]

6-2 with 6 outs to get? Not the offense fault on this one

I agree. You can't go out there and not throw strikes with a four run lead. Make them hit the ball to win

[DawgFromOxford]

Every SEC game matters and we choked that one away. Sickening

[Todd4State]

Or Kohler.

Walks and errors- mental or scored get you beat. See last year.

[Commercecomet24]

This game wasn't lost because he pulled Schuelke. They had 2-3 LH hitters coming up and LH hitters typically hit submarine pitchers well.

This game was lost because Tyler and Auger didn't do their jobs. Period.

This is the correct answer. Davis and auger have both been good. They didn't do their jobs tonight. Yeah you can't leave schuelke in against lefty's

[msstate7]

This game wasn't lost because he pulled Schuelke. They had 2-3 LH hitters coming up and LH hitters typically hit submarine pitchers well.

This game was lost because Tyler and Auger didn't do their jobs. Period.

And Kohler. You can't hit low 200s and not make plays to help win games

[Bdawg]

That cannot come soon enough. His decision making is legitimately dog shit.

Took a pitcher out who was dealing to go through 2 that wasn’t. So that means you end up with your freshman out there in a super high pressure situation. I just can’t stand by his decision on that, whether Davis pitched good his last time out or not.

[KOdawg1]

Tyler Davis and Brooks Auger should have to apologize to their teammates because their incompetence lost them this game.

How are you an SEC pitcher and suck that bad? This is a soul crushing loss. Won't be surprised if we get swept now. Pathetic.

[sandjunky]

Feel for Stevens .

Got the best player in CBB to ground out to 3rd to end it.

Tough play there.

Don?t play the effing shift and it?s not a backhanded stab at a capped ball

[StarkVegasSteve]

And Kohler. You can't hit low 200s and not make plays to help win games

Yep Kohler is quickly turning into every 3B we have had since 2016, save for a 3 week stretch by Kam James in 21.

[CaptainObvious]

This is a pretty good team we have. The got dam coach is la burden that they have to drag around and win in spite of him.

No doubt. The albatross is Lemonis.

[Quaoarsking]

If we'd fired Lemonis like virtually the entire fanbase wanted to and hired a good coach to replace him, we'd have several more wins right now. There are a lot of good things going on with this program, but no matter what our final record ends up being (and I'll repeat that it will probably be good enough to make a Regional), it will be lower it should be.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Tyler Davis and Brooks Auger should have to apologize to their teammates because their incompetence lost them this game.

How are you an SEC pitcher and suck that bad? This is a soul crushing loss. Won't be surprised if we get swept now. Pathetic.

Brooks Auger needs to specifically pitch low stress midweek games til he leaves. He melts on the mound in any high pressure situation because he cannot strike anyone out. He only has a fastball that he just tries to blow by everyone.

[Saltydog]

I'd rather get run ruled than get beat like this. This is a demoralizing way to lose. The sweep is on. Gonna be hard to recover this weekend.

[Commercecomet24]

Davis has done his job all year. He didn't have it tonight. Pitchers ain't gonna have it everytime out. It sucks this game should've been over. Even as bad as the last 2 innings were Kohler has to make that play we win.

[CaptainObvious]

Let the SEC's worst most arrogant pos Coach off the hook on top of blowing the game. Again, 2023 level performance there from the bull pen.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If we'd fired Lemonis like virtually the entire fanbase wanted to and hired a good coach to replace him, we'd have several more wins right now. There are a lot of good things going on with this program, but no matter what our final record ends up being (and I'll repeat that it will probably be good enough to make a Regional), it will be lower it should be.

If we keep him around for being a 2 seed in a regional then that will give everyone the answer on what Selmon thinks about baseball, and by the way, I believe he will keep him around in that scenario.

[tcdog70]

I blame our offense here. You can't have that many quiet innings on the back side against a more talented team. This season starts over next weekend.

Looked at too many strike 3s

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'd rather get run ruled than get beat like this. This is a demoralizing way to lose. The sweep is on. Gonna be hard to recover this weekend.

Yea because now you have to win 2 games to win 1 basically. And I know it is not the popular thing to do anymore, but let the starter at least through the 7th. Especially if they are rolling like Stephen was tonight.

[msstate7]

Davis has done his job all year. He didn't have it tonight. Pitchers ain't gonna have it everytime out. It sucks this game should've been over. Even as bad as the last 2 innings were Kohler has to make that play we win.

I'm much more pissed at Kohler for not making a play.

[ScooterDog]

Typical MSU. All they do is build you up just to let you down.

[Coach34]

If we'd fired Lemonis like virtually the entire fanbase wanted to and hired a good coach to replace him, we'd have several more wins right now.

Yeahhhh- I'm pissed he told Davis to walk both those guys too. Terrible strategy and lost it for us.

[msstate7]

Yeahhhh- I'm pissed he told Davis to walk both those guys too. Terrible strategy and lost it for us.

After missing the sect (not ncaa), lemonis doesn't get to say players didn't execute... get better players or you get gone

[civildawg]

I'll be very curious to see if we bounce back or fold up like a cheap tent. That loss could kill this season and Lemonis

[Bdawg]

Davis has done his job all year. He didn't have it tonight. Pitchers ain't gonna have it everytime out. It sucks this game should've been over. Even as bad as the last 2 innings were Kohler has to make that play we win.

He’s got to come up with that

[Bdawg]

I'm much more pissed at Kohler for not making a play.

Me too because his bat sucks too

[Mjoelner34]

This game wasn't lost because he pulled Schuelke. They had 2-3 LH hitters coming up and LH hitters typically hit submarine pitchers well.

This game was lost because Tyler and Auger didn't do their jobs. Period.

So? Let them hit solo HR's and we would still have a 2 run lead with right handers coming up. How did the RH batters do against him? If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I'll be very curious to see if we bounce back or fold up like a cheap tent. That loss could kill this season and Lemonis

I fully expect us to get swept. It is a chore winning 1 on the road in the SEC. We basically have to win 2 to get 1 after tonight. We will now have to sweep someone at home to make up for that one tonight.

[CaptainObvious]

I'm much more pissed at Kohler for not making a play.

Should have never got to that play. But to be fair, the top of the 9th batting order pussed out! 3 K's, two looking. As good as Hines is, he isn't clutch because he refuses to swing at pitches thst may require him to hit oppo. Of course he will be a perfect pro because all he will have to do is hit .240 with 30 HRs, and he will make bank. That don't get it in college because you don't get 162 games to hit 30 HRs. You have to hit to all fields to be a team player. You can be a dead pull hitter and be a "you" player.

[Coach34]

After missing the sect (not ncaa), lemonis doesn't get to say players didn't execute... get better players or you get gone

Agree- but you and I both know that wasnt on Lemon. Davis choked. Thats on Parker

[Bothrops]

This game wasn't lost because he pulled Schuelke. They had 2-3 LH hitters coming up and LH hitters typically hit submarine pitchers well.

This game was lost because Tyler and Auger didn't do their jobs. Period.

We weren't gonna put anybody on the mound that was gonna close that one out. This Florida team is coming on.

[StarkVegasSteve]

So? Let them hit solo HR's and we would still have a 2 run lead with right handers coming up. How did the RH batters do against him? If it aint broke, don't fix it.

Correct. We had given up two solo homers and were up 6-2. We were fine until we brought in Davis, who has had control issues for two years now. You just do not bring that guy into a situation on the road where you absolutely need a win

[Bdawg]

I'll be very curious to see if we bounce back or fold up like a cheap tent. That loss could kill this season and Lemonis

I feel we’ve got more grit than that. But I hear their Sunday starter is tough. We need our number 1 back!!

[basedog]

Looked like the pressure got to our pitchers in the 9th. Gonna be interesting to see how we react tomorrow after this loss.

[Coach34]

So? Let them hit solo HR's and we would still have a 2 run lead with right handers coming up. How did the RH batters do against him? If it aint broke, don't fix it.

Schuelke is garbage in the SEC. He never needs to face more than 2-3 guys. Anything past that is luck

[cheewgumm]

Dohm has to close.

If he?s healthy.

[civildawg]

I hate the lefty vs lefty or righty vs righty bullcrap baseball coaches think is gospel. If a pitcher is dealing, leave them the heck alone.

[Quaoarsking]

Agree- but you and I both know that wasnt on Lemon. Davis choked. Thats on Parker

Literally everything about the program is on Lemonis.

[preachermatt83]

It?s this freaking simple? don?t pull schulcke and you win. End of discussion. We WILL get swept now. Make my words

[Mjoelner34]

Schuelke is garbage in the SEC. He never needs to face more than 2-3 guys. Anything past that is luck

With a 4 run lead and only needing 6 outs, should have let him go until he got into trouble.

[preachermatt83]

Schuelke is garbage in the SEC. He never needs to face more than 2-3 guys. Anything past that is luck

You are insane

[msstate7]

The good news is that at worst, we will come home 3-6 in the sec after facing 3 top 10 sec teams with 2 on the road. Probably a good reminder that the sky isn't falling even though this loss sucked

[Bdawg]

Schuelke is garbage in the SEC. He never needs to face more than 2-3 guys. Anything past that is luck

Why? There are 9 guys in the lineup that will only see him once.

[schddog72]

It?s this freaking simple? don?t pull schulcke and you win. End of discussion. We WILL get swept now. Make my words

THIS!! You can see it coming from a mile away!!

[Bothrops]

The good news is that at worst, we will come home 3-6 in the sec after facing 3 top 10 sec teams with 2 on the road. Probably a good reminder that the sky isn't falling even though this loss sucked

Yes. We had our chance to get a rare win against Florida. Now we must get ourselves in the right mental frame for next weekend against another underrated team.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Schuelke is garbage in the SEC. He never needs to face more than 2-3 guys. Anything past that is luck

Then all our pitchers are garbage in SEC play……well I may be on to something there.

[Coach34]

You are insane

Schuelke before tonight had made 5 SEC appearances with 2 IP's. 3 H's/2BB's/2 earned runs

Acting like he is some great RP is like saying me wearing a dress makes me a woman

[basedog]

[QUOTE=msstate7;1591794]The good news is that at worst, we will come home 3-6 in the sec after facing 3 top 10 sec teams with 2 on the road. Probably a good reminder that the sky isn't falling even though this loss sucked[/QUOTE

I don’t think 3-6 is good regardless of who we played. Florida isn’t great; good yes they are 15-10. LSU has issues. Just saying.

We are improved from last two years and it’s still early but dang year 6 and we are 3-6. This ain’t MSU baseball.

I hope we win Saturday, that would mean we got some stones after the loss tonight.

[KOdawg1]

I don't disagree with taking Schuelke out. He is hit or miss and there were several LH hitters due up.

Tyler Davis being worse than a blind 8th grader and Auger having literally 1 pitch is what lost us the game. That and Kohler channeling his inner Slate Alford

[TALL DAWG]

Regardless of what he did before tonight, he pitched well tonight and the coaches should?ve AT LEAST let him face the first 2 batters in 8th. He had ONLY faced 4 batters and one of those got on because of the dropped pop up.
This loss is 100% on the coaches for pulling the submariner too soon.
Batters don?t see that type pitcher much and he may have kept on rolling.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't disagree with taking Schuelke out. He is hit or miss and there were several LH hitters due up.

Tyler Davis being worse than a blind 8th grader and Auger having literally 1 pitch is what lost us the game. That and Kohler channeling his inner Slate Alford

Kohler has been channeling his inner Slate Alford for a week now….and at least Slate might hit a homer every once in a while. Kohler barely swings the bat. Agree on your points about Davis and Auger though. We should have cut them loose in the offseason.

[Coach34]

Choking tonight sux

Tomorrow is a new day

[StarkVegasSteve]

Dohm has to close.

If he?s healthy.

This is probably the only correct answer to our issue. Move him to the backend, let Schuelke be the SU man, and move Siary into the rotation.

[Quaoarsking]

Choking tonight sux


It's happened too much over the last 3 seasons to just shrug it off. Lemonis is the common denominator. We underachieve because he's not a very good coach. It's good that he recruited well enough to probably get back to a Regional (after missing one twice) in spite of his subpar coaching, but we can do better.

[cheewgumm]

I hope kohler pulls through this.

But if he does not, can Cupp play 3rd?

[StarkVegasSteve]

I hope kohler pulls through this.

But if he does not, can Cupp play 3rd?

You are subbing one bad bat for another at that point. I could have sworn Downs played some 3B for us last year.

[cheewgumm]

You are right for now.

But I think Cupp is a work in progress.

Kohler is a finished product.

[Cowbell]

Agree- but you and I both know that wasnt on Lemon. Davis choked. Thats on Parker
That's funny. It's on the second pitching coach that lemonis was in charge of hiring to replace the first pitching coach that sucked that he was responsible for hiring. But lemonis is not responsible....

[cheewgumm]

I can.not see what Lemonis did wrong.

Players screw up sometimes.. they gotta make plays.

[Todd4State]

This is probably the only correct answer to our issue. Move him to the backend, let Schuelke be the SU man, and move Siary into the rotation.

I've always liked Dohm better as a relief pitcher. I like that idea.

I'd give Loftin and Ligon a chance to start too.

[Quaoarsking]

I can.not see what Lemonis did wrong.

Players screw up sometimes.. they gotta make plays.

Tonight is forgivable in a vacuum, but Lemonis is now 21-46 in the SEC over the last 3 seasons. That's just disgraceful. Even a decent-but-not-great coach should be able to get to .500 in the SEC over the course of multiple seasons. Cohen did it starting in year 3 once he fixed our issues. Cann did it. Henderson did it.

Lemonis did it early on himself, but is now 61-66 in his career. Does anyone really think Lemonis will ever be above .500 in career conference games again here?

[DawgFromOxford]

As frustrating as Lemonis can be at times tonight isn?t on him. Davis couldn?t hit the broad side of a barn, Auger wasn?t perfect, Kohler had the 3rd out and couldn?t handle it, Stevens had out 3 in a 3-2 count and bounced ball 4 in front of the plate. Simply put, the players in the field failed to close out the game

[maroonmania]

Davis has done his job all year. He didn't have it tonight. Pitchers ain't gonna have it everytime out. It sucks this game should've been over. Even as bad as the last 2 innings were Kohler has to make that play we win.

Seemingly nobody had it. Besides Davis, Auger didn't have it and Stephens didn't have it. Stephens did at least get us the ground ball that Kohler should have made the play on but on the next hitter he just needed on more strike with a 2-2 count and threw 2 balls IN THE DIRT. Which means he didn't have the guts as a Freshman to deal with the situation. While we actually have pretty good talent we are soft. None of our guys deal with pressure situations. That's why we couldn't complete the comeback in the 9-8 loss to LSU and why we lost tonight. All 3 of our wins so far have come by 5 runs or more. When the pressure is on in a close game we fold when playing a tough conference opponent. Against midweek opponents we seem to do alright but the pressure there isn't the same.

[SPMT]

I can.not see what Lemonis did wrong.

Players screw up sometimes.. they gotta make plays.

100%!

I don?t see how this is on any coach what so ever. This was a total
Meltdown by players themselves, specifically pitchers. But they were not asked to do too much. We had plenty of cushion to give up hits.

Abysmal meltdown by the RELIEVERS. The coach can?t theow the ball for them. 17in perform and close out the game like the dawgs you guys are. If a player parent is on here, then tell that to your son. I would tell mine hey. ?You guys lost that game yourselves, not your coaches. Take ownership.?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Tonight is forgivable in a vacuum, but Lemonis is now 21-46 in the SEC over the last 3 seasons. That's just disgraceful. Even a decent-but-not-great coach should be able to get to .500 in the SEC over the course of multiple seasons. Cohen did it starting in year 3 once he fixed our issues. Cann did it. Henderson did it.

Lemonis did it early on himself, but is now 61-66 in his career. Does anyone really think Lemonis will ever be above .500 in career conference games again here?

So here's a bit of research comparing Lemonis to coaches that have been fired in the league in the last few years.

Chris Lemonis 2019-2023 SEC Record: 58-62
Scott Stricklin(fmr. UGA Coach) 2019-2023 SEC Record: 60-60
Rob Childress(fmr A&M coach) 2017-2021 SEC Record: 54-65-1
Chad Holbrook (fmr USCe HC) 2013-2017 SEC Record: 64-55
Steve Pieser (fmr. Mizzou HC) 2019-2023 SEC Record: 41-78-1
Gary Henderson (UK) 2013-2016 SEC Record: 54-65/15-15 in one season at State

So using this data....Lemonis had a worse stretch than 2 of those fired coaches and only slightly better than two others. Just goes to show he should've been fired last year. Like how long are we going to let him coast on a national championship? I mean if we make the tournament this year is that going to keep him? I'm afraid it would be enough reason for some to say he deserves another year.

[StarkVegasSteve]

100%!

I don?t see how this is on any coach what so ever. This was a total
Meltdown by players themselves, specifically pitchers. But they were not asked to do too much. We had plenty of cushion to give up hits.

Abysmal meltdown by the RELIEVERS. The coach can?t theow the ball for them. 17in perform and close out the game like the dawgs you guys are. If a player parent is on here, then tell that to your son. I would tell mine hey. ?You guys lost that game yourselves, not your coaches. Take ownership.?

The issue is, and Quaoarsking hit the nail on the head, that in a vacuum this loss is not that big of a deal. It is the fact that we've lost THIS EXACT WAY far too many times in the last 3 years. Like at a certain point it stops being about the players and it becomes about the coach that recruits the players. We are a year past that point.

[SPMT]

The issue is, and Quaoarsking hit the nail on the head, that in a vacuum this loss is not that big of a deal. It is the fact that we've lost THIS EXACT WAY far too many times in the last 3 years. Like at a certain point it stops being about the players and it becomes about the coach that recruits the players. We are a year past that point.

True. But not the pitching coach. He?s done well.

So, it rests with one.

Still, we take one this weekend, we are good to go.

[cheewgumm]

At Miss State baseball it has to be

1) players are recruited here becauase they are "elite"
2) they have to make plays
3) if they dont enough times, we have to find someone who will
4) repeat

Just the way it is.

That being said...nobody on this years team has done enough bad to be given up on. Players have bad days.

They'll play good tomorrow, most likely.

Go State

[Todd4State]

The issue is, and Quaoarsking hit the nail on the head, that in a vacuum this loss is not that big of a deal. It is the fact that we've lost THIS EXACT WAY far too many times in the last 3 years. Like at a certain point it stops being about the players and it becomes about the coach that recruits the players. We are a year past that point.

It's an issue if it happens consistently. Like last year we had multiple games where the pitching staff let us down. Tonight has been the second time this season the bullpen really melted down that I can remember- Austin Peay being the other. At this point- I can't say that's a consistent issue. Everyone does have a game like this in SEC baseball usually. Unfortunately for us it happened tonight.

[Commercecomet24]

Seemingly nobody had it. Besides Davis, Auger didn't have it and Stephens didn't have it. Stephens did at least get us the ground ball that Kohler should have made the play on but on the next hitter he just needed on more strike with a 2-2 count and threw 2 balls IN THE DIRT. Which means he didn't have the guts as a Freshman to deal with the situation. While we actually have pretty good talent we are soft. None of our guys deal with pressure situations. That's why we couldn't complete the comeback in the 9-8 loss to LSU and why we lost tonight. All 3 of our wins so far have come by 5 runs or more. When the pressure is on in a close game we fold when playing a tough conference opponent. Against midweek opponents we seem to do alright but the pressure there isn't the same.

We've only had 2 games decided by one run and only played 7 sec games. To call this team soft is way premature and judging by the way they bust their ass on the field and how well we're hitting with risp and two outs wipes out the soft theory. This team is anything but soft. They play hard and intense. Let's see how it looks at the end of the season.

ETA the lsu comeback wasn't completed because lsu made a heckuva a throw and tag at the plate in the 8th to keep us from tying. And to comeback from down 9-2 to the defending and coming within that play of tying is the opposite of soft.

[Commercecomet24]

It's an issue if it happens consistently. Like last year we had multiple games where the pitching staff let us down. Tonight has been the second time this season the bullpen really melted down that I can remember- Austin Peay being the other. At this point- I can't say that's a consistent issue. Everyone does have a game like this in SEC baseball usually. Unfortunately for us it happened tonight.

This. I know everyone has ptsd from the last 2 seasons but this team is different and it's obvious. These games happen to everyone. Still sucks.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It's an issue if it happens consistently. Like last year we had multiple games where the pitching staff let us down. Tonight has been the second time this season the bullpen really melted down that I can remember- Austin Peay being the other. At this point- I can't say that's a consistent issue. Everyone does have a game like this in SEC baseball usually. Unfortunately for us it happened tonight.

Air Force. Blew a lead in the 9th. South Al, blew a lead in the 9th. The issue I was pointing to is that we cannot close late games. It has been a Lemonis staple since 2022.

[basedog]

This. I know everyone has ptsd from the last 2 seasons but this team is different and it's obvious. These games happen to everyone. Still sucks.

We are improved no doubt 24, but I can't see through my "crystal ball" believing, thinking or seeing Lemonis being the answer, I wish I did and believed like you my friend. I just know what I saw in the past and what i heard. Very tough loss last night and yes it happens but it ain't good for a Coach who is on the hot seat. Every big or little thing that goes wrong will only build momentum for his bucket seat getting hotter. LOL, kinda.