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Todd4State
03-27-2024, 12:55 PM
I'd request a trade to the 49ers or just sign with them as a free agent in 2025.

I think he could win a Super Bowl there.

parabrave
03-27-2024, 01:07 PM
What did Jerry do now?

Todd4State
03-27-2024, 01:16 PM
It looks like he might let Dak walk after his contract is up in 2025

parabrave
03-27-2024, 01:29 PM
Dak should get all the money he can from Jerry Because I don't think he will command a top 4 salary again.

Tbonewannabe
03-27-2024, 01:47 PM
Jerry has dragged his feet on every contract and it cost him money every time. Dak just finished as a finalist for MVP so he will get paid.

Homedawg
03-27-2024, 02:02 PM
I'd request a trade to the 49ers or just sign with them as a free agent in 2025.

I think he could win a Super Bowl there.

SF can't pay him what he's worth or wants wo dismantling their team. Not enough cap room. There are only so many big contracts one can have on a roster. SF has no money tied up in a QB but several other big contracts.

Saltydog
03-27-2024, 02:20 PM
What makes you think SF wants him? They have other issues they need to address, mainly on their OL.

Goldendawg
03-27-2024, 02:28 PM
Dak should get all the money he can from Jerry Because I don't think he will command a top 4 salary again.

Read yesterday Dak wants $60 mil per year which would make him the highest paid NFL player. This is why many teams can't win it all. Too much $ to a few players and no salary cap left for supporting cast which seems to already be a Dallas problem.

Coach34
03-27-2024, 02:29 PM
SF has their QB for the near future

Tampa, New Orleans, and other teams looking for QB's is where he needs to go

Goldendawg
03-27-2024, 02:44 PM
SF has their QB for the near future

Tampa, New Orleans, and other teams looking for QB's is where he needs to go

Dak needs to go to a team that he is the missing piece at QB needed to win it all. Know Dallas is his boyhood dream team and besides his millions made on the field, his endorsements bring mega $ as "America's Team" QB, but I don't think "GM" Jerry will ever put a Super Bowl winning roster together. Dak can still make big $ with another team, but be in a much better situation to win it all.

BeardoMSU
03-27-2024, 03:02 PM
Dak should get all the money he can from Jerry Because I don't think he will command a top 4 salary again.

Whaaaat?

He's coming off the best statistical regular season of his career, finished 2nd team all pro, and finished #2 in the MVP vote. He's got a ton of tread left on his tires. If Jerry is dumb enough to let him walk (which I hope he does), there will be a slew of teams throwing all their money at Dak to be their starting QB.

Homedawg
03-27-2024, 03:02 PM
Read yesterday Dak wants $60 mil per year which would make him the highest paid NFL player. This is why many teams can't win it all. Too much $ to a few players and no salary cap left for supporting cast which seems to already be a Dallas problem.

yep and that's why NE was so good for years w Brady, he didn't get paid what he was worth so the team would be better.

BeardoMSU
03-27-2024, 03:02 PM
Jerry has dragged his feet on every contract and it cost him money every time. Dak just finished as a finalist for MVP so he will get paid.

Yep.

BeardoMSU
03-27-2024, 03:05 PM
It's easy to throw the QB under the bus when it comes to playoff record, which is really funny to me. There's a reason Dallas hasn't been to even a conference championship game in multiple decades...and Dak's play ain't the reason. That franchise is ****ed as long as Jerry and his son are calling the shots.

StarkVegasSteve
03-27-2024, 03:28 PM
The best situation for Dak is find a team that has a ton of cap space and can commit to making a 3 year run. That's all you really have in today's NFL. You know I would think a team like the Cardinals or the Vikings who have a ton of cap space could get him and then convince some skill players to take team friendly deals.

GoDawgz
03-27-2024, 05:19 PM
I have been a Cowboys fan all my life and one of the best days was when they drafted Dak.
I had the best of both worlds.
But they never have appreciated Dak!
Dallas will never win another SB until Jerry is gone.
If he walks, who could blame him?
But please dont let him go to the Saints......good grief noooooo!
I hope he milks Jerry for ever dime he can get out of him and then win a title despite Jerry.

EdwardDrayton
03-27-2024, 05:36 PM
Whaaaat?

He's coming off the best statistical regular season of his career, finished 2nd team all pro, and finished #2 in the MVP vote. He's got a ton of tread left on his tires. If Jerry is dumb enough to let him walk (which I hope he does), there will be a slew of teams throwing all their money at Dak to be their starting QB.

^^^^^^^

Bdawg
03-27-2024, 06:29 PM
yep and that's why NE was so good for years w Brady, he didn't get paid what he was worth so the team would be better.

That’s the only reason I liked Brady. Never liked the Pats but I respect the guy who took less money to have a winning team. May never see that kind of unselfishness again in sports.

MoreCowbell
03-27-2024, 07:31 PM
Dak will be a Saint in 2025 if I had to place a bet on it

MoreCowbell
03-27-2024, 07:34 PM
Love Dak but cannot believe he is demanding that type of money. Take 45mil a year so they can sign a few guys

MoreCowbell
03-27-2024, 07:35 PM
Dak would have been a perfect fit with Steelers this year

MoreCowbell
03-27-2024, 07:37 PM
Whaaaat?

He's coming off the best statistical regular season of his career, finished 2nd team all pro, and finished #2 in the MVP vote. He's got a ton of tread left on his tires. If Jerry is dumb enough to let him walk (which I hope he does), there will be a slew of teams throwing all their money at Dak to be their starting QB.

Dak had a great year but nobody is signing him for 60mil a year on the backside of his career

BeardoMSU
03-27-2024, 07:40 PM
Dak had a great year but nobody is signing him for 60mil a year on the backside of his career

Backside? He's 30 and coming off his best year, stats wise. He's still in his prime.

BeardoMSU
03-27-2024, 07:43 PM
Dak had a great year but nobody is signing him for 60mil a year on the backside of his career

Considering more QBs will get big payouts between now and then, thus raising the bar even higher...he most definitely will

Coach34
03-27-2024, 07:44 PM
Backside? He's 30 and coming off his best year, stats wise. He's still in his prime.

Yeah- unless he has a bad injury again or something crazy- Dak could go another 8 years

BeardoMSU
03-27-2024, 08:26 PM
Yeah- unless he has a bad injury again or something crazy- Dak could go another 8 years

This.

KOdawg1
03-27-2024, 09:12 PM
Dak is in the middle of his prime, and with the way he plays and takes care of himself, he could do this many more years.

Tbonewannabe
03-27-2024, 09:18 PM
That’s the only reason I liked Brady. Never liked the Pats but I respect the guy who took less money to have a winning team. May never see that kind of unselfishness again in sports.

It helps if your wife brings in $100 Mil a year.

BeardoMSU
03-27-2024, 09:27 PM
It helps if your wife brings in $100 Mil a year.

Exactly

Well, ex now, but still.

Commercecomet24
03-27-2024, 09:31 PM
It helps if your wife brings in $100 Mil a year.

True but Brady was doing that before Gisele, too.

ArrowDawg
03-27-2024, 11:43 PM
Love Dak but cannot believe he is demanding that type of money. Take 45mil a year so they can sign a few guys

I agree, but he should do it on another team. Dallas isn't serious about winning a title.

viverlibre
03-28-2024, 08:10 AM
Prior to last season, everyone said he needed to make a playoff run to cement himself as a top QB. He didn't do that, but has another chance this year, win a couple of playoff games and he'll get whatever contract he wants.

BeardoMSU
03-28-2024, 08:22 AM
Prior to last season, everyone said he needed to make a playoff run to cement himself as a top QB. He didn't do that, but has another chance this year, win a couple of playoff games and he'll get whatever contract he wants.

That's the thing...it's hard to win in the playoffs, and 1 player can't do it by himself. Dallas, as a team, has looked absolutely unprepared from the jump 3 years in a row (though last year, they smoked Brady in the Wildcard round). Their defense has been a mirage for the most part 2 years in a row, and they have done zilch to really address it (i.e., big DT's and LBs). If they're playing a team that runs the ball just OK with some play action, they literally can't stop them (see the Green Bay debacle). And that puts a ton of pressure on the offense, which for 2 years straight, hasn't had a reliable run game...

DownwardDawg
03-28-2024, 09:20 AM
Love Dak but cannot believe he is demanding that type of money. Take 45mil a year so they can sign a few guys

He plays for a guy that has never committed to winning. Which reflects on Dak in today's media world. Milk that SOB for every dime you can get. If he gets it, great!!! If not, he possibly gets on a team that wants to win a Superbowl. I think it's a smart move for Dak.

Matt3467
03-28-2024, 09:27 AM
Dallas had a top 5 defense *statistically* but it was clear when they played anyone with a pulse they weren't as good as paper showed. Which brings me to a similar point on Dak. He had a very good year statistically and in the win column however when you sit down and look at the competition Dallas played vs last year it doesn't take long to realize that Dallas had a very easy schedule. The combined W/L total of the teams they beat was 80-124. 4 of Dallas's 12 wins were vs teams with a winning record and 1 was against a Philly team that fell off a cliff the latter part of the year and another was likely an officiating gift vs Detroit. Dak's QBR vs teams with a winning record is 59.1 while against teams with a losing record is was nearly 20 points higher at 78.1.

It was difficult to figure Dallas out since they rarely played anyone good but when they did their top 5 defense and MVP candidate QB no longer looked the part. Dak is and has always been a solid top 10 QB in the league and possibly top 6 or 7 now but not winning when it counts makes it hard to justify being the top paid QB in the league. When there's QBs like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Mahomes, Burrow, and even Purdy with his year making it to a SB I don't see how Dak can get that.

Tbonewannabe
03-28-2024, 09:28 AM
That's the thing...it's hard to win in the playoffs, and 1 player can't do it by himself. Dallas, as a team, has looked absolutely unprepared from the jump 3 years in a row (though last year, they smoked Brady in the Wildcard round). Their defense has been a mirage for the most part 2 years in a row, and they have done zilch to really address it (i.e., big DT's and LBs). If they're playing a team that runs the ball just OK with some play action, they literally can't stop them (see the Green Bay debacle). And that puts a ton of pressure on the offense, which for 2 years straight, hasn't had a reliable run game...

Jerry just doesn't build a team for the playoffs. The Dallas D has been almost nonexistent in the Playoffs along with having 1 good WR at a time. Tyron Smith is a great talent at LT who plays half the time. Their Oline is overrated except for Z. Martin.

Dak is giving them a chance to win but that Defense gives it away.

Churchill
03-28-2024, 11:08 AM
Love Dak but if I owned an NFL team and I thought all I needed to make a SB run was a QB.... quite frankly Dak wouldn't be my first pick.

BeardoMSU
03-28-2024, 11:25 AM
Jerry just doesn't build a team for the playoffs. The Dallas D has been almost nonexistent in the Playoffs along with having 1 good WR at a time. Tyron Smith is a great talent at LT who plays half the time. Their Oline is overrated except for Z. Martin.

Dak is giving them a chance to win but that Defense gives it away.

Yep, all true.

And speaking of the WR...I remember something was weird with CeeDee at the start of the GB game; he had terrible body language pretty much starting their first possession...he was literally playing like he didn't give af.

parabrave
03-28-2024, 11:30 AM
Yep, all true.

And speaking of the WR...I remember something was weird with CeeDee at the start of the GB game; he had terrible body language pretty much starting their first possession...he was literally playing like he didn't give af.

When his dad got all over social media saying Dak wasn't a good QB that's when I got off the CeeDee train. Problem with the Boys has been stated. A career 2nd string RB started. Crappy Oline and a D that a girls powder puff team could run through. Oh I forgot to add a coach running his 20 year old offense that is very unimaginative.

RockyDog
03-28-2024, 07:05 PM
Dallas had a top 5 defense *statistically* but it was clear when they played anyone with a pulse they weren't as good as paper showed. Which brings me to a similar point on Dak. He had a very good year statistically and in the win column however when you sit down and look at the competition Dallas played vs last year it doesn't take long to realize that Dallas had a very easy schedule. The combined W/L total of the teams they beat was 80-124. 4 of Dallas's 12 wins were vs teams with a winning record and 1 was against a Philly team that fell off a cliff the latter part of the year and another was likely an officiating gift vs Detroit. Dak's QBR vs teams with a winning record is 59.1 while against teams with a losing record is was nearly 20 points higher at 78.1.

It was difficult to figure Dallas out since they rarely played anyone good but when they did their top 5 defense and MVP candidate QB no longer looked the part. Dak is and has always been a solid top 10 QB in the league and possibly top 6 or 7 now but not winning when it counts makes it hard to justify being the top paid QB in the league. When there's QBs like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Mahomes, Burrow, and even Purdy with his year making it to a SB I don't see how Dak can get that.

They beat who they needed to beat with the exception of Arizona. Losing on the road to Buffalo, Miami, San Fran and Philly is understandable. Sure they let a couple of those slip away but losing to a playoff team on the road doesn’t mean they were bad.

The league as a whole was pretty balanced. Buffalo lost 6 in the regular season, SF looked pitiful during a 3 game losing streak, KC didn’t turn it on til the playoffs and of course the Eagles had a massive choke.

Dallas gets ridiculed because of their history since the last Super Bowl. But that’s not really fair to the players that are on the field today. They can’t control history and if you look at the season as a whole Dallas has been on a decent run with Dak. Josh Allen doesn’t get near the shit that Dak does from the media because he’s not on America’s Team.

viverlibre
03-28-2024, 09:19 PM
Yep, all true.

And speaking of the WR...I remember something was weird with CeeDee at the start of the GB game; he had terrible body language pretty much starting their first possession...he was literally playing like he didn't give af.

I never heard any follow up on that. Wonder what the deal was?

Cowbell
03-28-2024, 09:29 PM
Love Dak but cannot believe he is demanding that type of money. Take 45mil a year so they can sign a few guys

Nobody knows what he is demanding - Jerry created that narrative just like he does every narrative. Jerry is one of the sorriest human beings to walk this earth and he only cares about his image, his money, and fulfilling his lusts. The same reason the sexual assault allegation from 2017 is suddenly an issue for dak now that contracts are being negotiated. There is also a good chance that Dak wants out and is demanding that number. They did nothing during season free agency to help dak make a deep playoff run this year or last year. They could have easily added Henry late in the season and been a serious contender come January. They actually had the cap space.

MoreCowbell
03-28-2024, 10:00 PM
Backside? He's 30 and coming off his best year, stats wise. He's still in his prime.

It is still the backside. Not saying he is close to retirement but he has less years left than he has played already.

Cowbell
03-28-2024, 10:22 PM
It is still the backside. Not saying he is close to retirement but he has less years left than he has played already.
So do most QBs that are mature enough to win a SB.

He will get paid because he can win now. Not for how good he will be in 5 years.

MoreCowbell
03-29-2024, 03:53 PM
Their situation really is Jerrys fault. Had he not drug his feet on Daks first contract and extended him earlier instead of making him play it out the timing would be better. As of right now they are looking at the situation of having to pay

1. Dak a new contract likely around 53-55 mil a year
2. Micah Parsons, likely a record setting contract for a defensive player projected at 30/35mil a year
3. CeeDee Lamb will likely reset the market for WRs around 30mil

If you sign all 3 your ass better hit in the draft because you wont have any $ for free agency

Cowbell
03-29-2024, 11:34 PM
Their situation really is Jerrys fault. Had he not drug his feet on Daks first contract and extended him earlier instead of making him play it out the timing would be better. As of right now they are looking at the situation of having to pay

1. Dak a new contract likely around 53-55 mil a year
2. Micah Parsons, likely a record setting contract for a defensive player projected at 30/35mil a year
3. CeeDee Lamb will likely reset the market for WRs around 30mil

If you sign all 3 your ass better hit in the draft because you wont have any $ for free agency

The craziest thing about those numbers is that dak is worth more wins than those next two players combined. They would be better off trading both than trading Dak. It's a rebuild if they trade dak. Not if they trade the other two.

Homedawg
03-30-2024, 10:38 AM
The craziest thing about those numbers is that dak is worth more wins than those next two players combined. They would be better off trading both than trading Dak. It's a rebuild if they trade dak. Not if they trade the other two.

Yes it's a rebuild wo dak bc qb is so important and they won't have one. If they let dak go, the 25 season is trashed bc of the dead cap money. I can't see anyone making a trade for him when he's available in a year in the free market and they would have to have an agreement w him for a long term deal.......But he's not better at his position than parsons is. Not even close. Fact is 8/9 guys eat up a huge majority of the dollars on every roster. Winning is determined by how well you manage the other 40 guys.

State82
03-30-2024, 12:20 PM
But he's not better at his position than parsons is. Not even close.

This is fact. I love Dak but you would be hard pressed to find more than a couple of players, if that, that would be considered better at their respective positions than Micah Parsons.

parabrave
03-30-2024, 12:44 PM
Their situation really is Jerrys fault. Had he not drug his feet on Daks first contract and extended him earlier instead of making him play it out the timing would be better. As of right now they are looking at the situation of having to pay

1. Dak a new contract likely around 53-55 mil a year
2. Micah Parsons, likely a record setting contract for a defensive player projected at 30/35mil a year
3. CeeDee Lamb will likely reset the market for WRs around 30mil

If you sign all 3 your ass better hit in the draft because you wont have any $ for free agency

And Parson is a pass rush specialist. He is worthless against the run.

Cowbell
03-30-2024, 09:25 PM
Yes it's a rebuild wo dak bc qb is so important and they won't have one. If they let dak go, the 25 season is trashed bc of the dead cap money. I can't see anyone making a trade for him when he's available in a year in the free market and they would have to have an agreement w him for a long term deal.......But he's not better at his position than parsons is. Not even close. Fact is 8/9 guys eat up a huge majority of the dollars on every roster. Winning is determined by how well you manage the other 40 guys.

Micah was a non factor the second half of the season - I like him but he ain't the game wrecker that he is supposedly gonna get paid to be. Bosa is. Chris Jones is. I would actually say that willie gay is better as far as ROI if Micah is 30 mil.

Homedawg
03-30-2024, 09:27 PM
And Parson is a pass rush specialist. He is worthless against the run.

Not true. But anyhow, he's one of the top 5 defensive players in the game and completely disruptive.

Homedawg
03-30-2024, 09:28 PM
Micah was a non factor the second half of the season - I like him but he ain't the game wrecker that he is supposedly gonna get paid to be. Bosa is. Chris Jones is. I would actually say that willie gay is better as far as ROI if Micah is 30 mil.
Omg. If you truly believe everything you typed then no point in discussing it further w you. That's just nuts. ...
6.5 sacks last 8 games. Yeah non factor.... as for Bosa. Parsons had more sacks for the year and for the last half. ...... so again ....parsons led the league in qb pressures.... should I keep going or what??? Your entire post is absurd