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StarkVegasSteve
03-26-2024, 05:10 PM
Now that this basketball season is officially over, I've gotten together a preliminary list of guys I think we should target. The numbers to the right of their names are their FG%, 3pt%, and FT%. The ones in bold are the ones that there is confirmation we have contacted that I could find.


Gibson Jimmerson- 6'5 SG St. Louis 40/36/86
Clifford Omoruyi- 6'11 C Rutgers 51/20/61
Mekhi Mason- 6'5 SG Rice 39/34/68 committed to Washington
Dakota Leffew- 6'5 SG Mt. St. Mary's 46/36/76
Mikeal Brown-Jones 6'8 SF UNCG 54/43/79
Frankie Fidler- 6'7 SF Omaha 45/36/85
Darlinston Dubar- 6'8 CG Hofstra 54/40/73
Sincere Parker- 6'3 SG St. Louis 46/37/84(career avgs.)
Keyshawn Hall- 6'7 CG George Mason 47/38/84
Dante Maddox Jr.- 6'2 SG Toledo 43/40/86
Bryce Pope- 6'3 SG UC San Diego 42/33/82
Terrance Edwards Jr- 6’6 SF James Madison 43/34/81 added 3/27 committed to Louisville
BJ Freeman- 6’6 SG Milwaukee 42/35/84 added 3/28
Tarris Reed Jr- 6'10 PF Michigan 51/33/59 added 3/28
AJ Storr- 6'7 SG Wisconsin 43/32/81 added 3/28
Max Jones- 6'4 Cal State Fullerton 38/39/79 added 3/28
Davonte Davis 6’4 SG Arkansas 36/24/77 added 3/29
Kanye Clary 5’11 PG Penn State 46/38/81 committed to us 3/29
Jahsean Corbett 6’7 SG Chicago St 47/29/70 added 4/2
Sam Alexis 6'9 PF Chattanooga 55/27/48 added 4/3
Jalen Blackmon 6'3 CG Stetson 43/38/91 added 4/3
Jamie Kaiser Jr. 6'6 SF Maryland 27/27/78. Only played 19 MPG added 4/3
Joshua Ola-Joseph 6'7 SF Minnesota 61/41/74. Only played 15 MPG added 4/3
Brandon Johnson 6'8 SF East Carolina 42/37/74 added 4/3



The next list is guys not YET in the portal but I believe will end up in the portal.

Cade Tyson- 6'7 PF Belmont 49/46/85
Chaz Lanier- 6'4 SG North Florida 51/44/88
Davion Bailey- 6'4 SG Ball State 44/42/82
Donovan Atwell- 6'5 SG UNCG 41/42/95

Let me know who all y'all would like to see added

msstate7
03-26-2024, 05:47 PM
Omoruyi would make us hell on defense

Goldendawg
03-26-2024, 06:42 PM
Omoruyi would make us hell on defense

Need a rim protector for sure. Missing in past few seasons.

Extendedcab
03-26-2024, 06:42 PM
Is Bell staying?

schddog72
03-26-2024, 06:55 PM
Is Bell staying?

He gone.

Coach34
03-26-2024, 07:32 PM
Good job SVS

DawgFromOxford
03-26-2024, 07:33 PM
Omoruyi would make us hell on defense

Plus his free throw % fits right in with our style

BigDawg81
03-26-2024, 07:47 PM
Give me the 7 footer from Stanford
15 ppg
9 rpg
36% from 3
87% Ft

gtowndawg
03-26-2024, 07:50 PM
Wish we could get Quinten Post back (not sure if he has one more year of eligibility though).

StarkVegasSteve
03-26-2024, 08:31 PM
Removed Michael Ayaji as he committed to Gonzaga today.

TheLostDawg
03-26-2024, 09:24 PM
Plus his free throw % fits right in with our style

Haha that's the first thing that I thought of

TaleofTwoDogs
03-27-2024, 02:06 AM
If he can walk and chew gum at the same time and can hit 80+% of his FTs, sign him up. **

In basketball, they should have a Designated Free Throw shooter "DFTS" that can come off the bench, shoot a player's FTs and return to the bench. Ha!

NCMSTFAN
03-27-2024, 08:09 AM
Thanks for posting this, good information. In my opinion our biggest needs are getting a running partner for Hubbard, someone who compliments him while they are on the floor together but he can also be the offensive focal point when Hubbard is on the bench. We need a couple shooters and we need a big who can score and protect the rim. We are losing Tolu and Bell so I'm hoping Jans can get in the portal and recruit well enough to convince a big or two that alot of playing time will be available.

msstate7
03-27-2024, 08:47 AM
If alijah Martin hits the portal, I'd be on him. He's from MS and his coach left, so I think it's possible

NCMSTFAN
03-27-2024, 09:53 AM
It's being reported that Trey Fort is in the transfer portal so that's another spot we have to fill. I actually saw some potential in him, he had a few good games for us, I wouldn't be surprised to see him do well elsewhere

ZedFedder
03-27-2024, 10:03 AM
Yeah, I think Fort can be a player. He just had injuries and then, he fell out of the rotation.

StarkVegasSteve
03-27-2024, 11:00 AM
Being reported that we have reached out to Terrance Edwards from James Madison. Added him to the list. I think he would be a great addition. Will be tough to get him though as he is probably going to be one of the more sought after transfers and I am sure his coach will try to bring him to Vandy with him.

NCMSTFAN
03-27-2024, 01:15 PM
Riley Kugel out of Florida just entered the portal. He was once committed to us when we had Howland. His 3 point % isn't great around 31%, free throw around 70% but he did average around 10 ppg and is battle tested in the SEC

StarkVegasSteve
03-27-2024, 01:27 PM
Riley Kugel out of Florida just entered the portal. He was once committed to us when we had Howland. His 3 point % isn't great around 31%, free throw around 70% but he did average around 10 ppg and is battle tested in the SEC

Yea I will add him. I think we would have a shot with him due to George Brooks. However, he needs to understand that coming here does not guarantee him a starting spot. He needs to up his game back to the level it was at last season.

NCMSTFAN
03-27-2024, 02:12 PM
Yea I will add him. I think we would have a shot with him due to George Brooks. However, he needs to understand that coming here does not guarantee him a starting spot. He needs to up his game back to the level it was at last season.

Agreed, he had a really good Freshman year... his sophomore year wasn't bad but he started losing playing time and that's why he's leaving.. we will have some spots open that he can fill. I personally would take him over Fort and DeShawn Davis.

msstate7
03-27-2024, 02:48 PM
Agreed, he had a really good Freshman year... his sophomore year wasn't bad but he started losing playing time and that's why he's leaving.. we will have some spots open that he can fill. I personally would take him over Fort and DeShawn Davis.

Can Davis return?

StarkVegasSteve
03-27-2024, 03:03 PM
Can Davis return?

He cannot return. He is out eligibility.

NCMSTFAN
03-27-2024, 07:18 PM
Can Davis return?

No he can't I was just using the two of them as examples, no disrespect to them we just need more scoring and Kugel can do that better..

662dawg
03-27-2024, 09:17 PM
No he can't I was just using the two of them as examples, no disrespect to them we just need more scoring and Kugel can do that better..

Taris Reed 6'9 230 Center out of Michigan. Pretty sure the staff is in touch with him.

HoopsDawg
03-27-2024, 11:00 PM
It seems we reach out to everyone but get very little return interest. Kugel is a guy I would think we would have a shot at. He would be a solid add. Great add really. We are in desperate shape.

NCMSTFAN
03-28-2024, 06:03 AM
It seems we reach out to everyone but get very little return interest. Kugel is a guy I would think we would have a shot at. He would be a solid add. Great add really. We are in desperate shape.

This is my worry also. Last off season we were supposedly in the "mix" for a lot of portal players and Jans wasn't able to bring in any of the top guys.

msstate7
03-28-2024, 06:43 AM
This is my worry also. Last off season we were supposedly in the "mix" for a lot of portal players and Jans wasn't able to bring in any of the top guys.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again... last year, he was recruiting to a roster with 5 returning starters. This year he isn't, so this season is a much better judge of his portal recruiting

gtowndawg
03-28-2024, 08:00 AM
I've said it before, but I'll say it again... last year, he was recruiting to a roster with 5 returning starters. This year he isn't, so this season is a much better judge of his portal recruiting

Valid point.

ZedFedder
03-28-2024, 08:40 AM
Also, we look back with 20/20 because Andrew Taylor did not pan out. At the time he was a big portal win. We just could not predict that would happen.

klong-dog
03-28-2024, 09:58 AM
Add B.J. Freeman

NCMSTFAN
03-28-2024, 10:20 AM
Jaquan Scott just entered the portal, that's another spot opening. Jans has alot of spots to fill

NCMSTFAN
03-28-2024, 10:21 AM
I've said it before, but I'll say it again... last year, he was recruiting to a roster with 5 returning starters. This year he isn't, so this season is a much better judge of his portal recruiting

Thats fair

ZedFedder
03-28-2024, 10:40 AM
This could go one of two ways.

We struggle to get difference makers out of the portal and have a set back next year. Not necessarily out of the tournament but perhaps a 10 seed or play in game.

OR

Jans really gets to put his stamp on the program getting exactly the kind of guys he wants to go along with Josh, Cam, and Shak. We actually improve to a 6-7 seed, maybe even higher if it all hits right.

We shall see

StarkVegasSteve
03-28-2024, 10:58 AM
Well Kugel is down to UCONN, Kansas, Houston, and Arizona. Sounds like he knew exactly what he was doing transferring

msstate7
03-28-2024, 11:08 AM
Well Kugel is down to UCONN, Kansas, Houston, and Arizona. Sounds like he knew exactly what he was doing transferring

I figured he would be tough to get, but wow... talking about failing up. He didn't even start at Florida

HoopsDawg
03-28-2024, 11:12 AM
I figured he would be tough to get, but wow... talking about failing up. He didn't even start at Florida

Talented player but I didn't think he would have those options.

HoopsDawg
03-28-2024, 11:15 AM
I've said it before, but I'll say it again... last year, he was recruiting to a roster with 5 returning starters. This year he isn't, so this season is a much better judge of his portal recruiting

Not sure I agree. We needed 1 guy to be a legit 2nd weekend team and Jans couldn't pull it off.

Not sure we have enough NIL or recruiting panache to pull 3 starters. We will see.

msstate7
03-28-2024, 11:25 AM
Not sure I agree. We needed 1 guy to be a legit 2nd weekend team and Jans couldn't pull it off.

Not sure we have enough NIL or recruiting panache to pull 3 starters. We will see.

Taylor not being able to function away from his GF seems like an unforeseen event. If he bought in, that woulda been a major boost.

StarkVegasSteve
03-28-2024, 12:11 PM
Have added both Tarris Reed Jr and BJ Freeman today and removed Riley Kugel. I like who it's being reported we're talking to so far. But like always, we have to close with these guys.

msstate7
03-28-2024, 12:25 PM
Where's Lawrence of vandy being recruited to?

StarkVegasSteve
03-28-2024, 12:32 PM
Where's Lawrence of vandy being recruited to?

Apparently Texas. He entered with a do not contact next to his name so I'm guessing he knew where he was going.

NCMSTFAN
03-28-2024, 12:39 PM
I figured he would be tough to get, but wow... talking about failing up. He didn't even start at Florida

He had a good Freshman season at Florida, I watched him play a few times and was pissed we couldn't keep him. But I'm with you, I didn't expect him to get those type offers

StarkVegasSteve
03-28-2024, 12:41 PM
He had a good Freshman season at Florida, I watched him play a few times and was pissed we couldn't keep him. But I'm with you, I didn't expect him to get those type offers

Well and you have to wonder if he could call those programs today and actually commit. I always wonder in this day and age when a guy reports offers and has listed his finalists. Did these schools just say we are interested or did they offer him a scholarship/NIL/whatever it may be. Those are some HIGH major offers for a guy who couldn't crack the starting lineup at Florida.

NCMSTFAN
03-28-2024, 12:51 PM
Well and you have to wonder if he could call those programs today and actually commit. I always wonder in this day and age when a guy reports offers and has listed his finalists. Did these schools just say we are interested or did they offer him a scholarship/NIL/whatever it may be. Those are some HIGH major offers for a guy who couldn't crack the starting lineup at Florida.

Good point and I wonder the same but it's hard to believe he would throw those schools out there like that, he has to commit to one of them and they are all pretty high profile teams so I guess I'll take his word for it.

Irondawg
03-28-2024, 03:03 PM
Wow, I didn't think Kugel would have those options either. I think the top programs just use their name and NIL to try and talent load.

I mean last year we didn't understand how ARK could land as many as they did. The ended up stinking and I'm betting about 4-5 of them regret their choice (other than the paycheck).

We need to find the kid that realizes he needs a place where he can get the PT and attention. A lot of these kids that were big HS recruits like Kugel will blame their current coach for not giving them a shot and still think they can be impact players on elite teams. They end up wrong more than they are right. I might have to spend some time looking back on some of those to see how often they end up being big contributors on their new teams.

StarkVegasSteve
03-28-2024, 03:24 PM
Wow, I didn't think Kugel would have those options either. I think the top programs just use their name and NIL to try and talent load.

I mean last year we didn't understand how ARK could land as many as they did. The ended up stinking and I'm betting about 4-5 of them regret their choice (other than the paycheck).

We need to find the kid that realizes he needs a place where he can get the PT and attention. A lot of these kids that were big HS recruits like Kugel will blame their current coach for not giving them a shot and still think they can be impact players on elite teams. They end up wrong more than they are right. I might have to spend some time looking back on some of those to see how often they end up being big contributors on their new teams.

Well for every Caleb Love there is going to be a Jahvon Quinerly. And for every Dalton Knecht there is going to be a Chris Ledlum. You just have to find players that are going to fit your culture and your style of play. It is no different than recruiting out of high school. The timeline is just quicker so the risk/reward is higher.

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 12:13 PM
Added Davonte Davis to the list so 7 it looks like you were right and we will be pursuing him after all.

Apoplectic
03-29-2024, 12:18 PM
from the 6pack: give the larry birds priority

msstate7
03-29-2024, 12:24 PM
Added Davonte Davis to the list so 7 it looks like you were right and we will be pursuing him after all.

His driving ability would make Hubbard lethal. No idea about his personal issues

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 12:53 PM
Well we are about to pick up someone accd to GP as well as Paul Jones.

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 01:29 PM
Kanye Clary- 5’11 PG previously at Penn State just committed. 16.7 PPG last year. Splits are 46/38/81. Not going to lie, unless he is being brought in as a backup I am not understanding this. Hubbard is already out there at 5’10-5’11 and we are going to bring in another sub 6 ft guy.

preachermatt83
03-29-2024, 01:29 PM
Added clary out of Penn st

msugolf
03-29-2024, 01:35 PM
Kanye Clary- 5’11 PG previously at Penn State just committed. 16.7 PPG last year. Splits are 46/38/81. Not going to lie, unless he is being brought in as a backup I am not understanding this. Hubbard is already out there at 5’10-5’11 and we are going to bring in another sub 6 ft guy.

Our weakness was having undersized guards. Could not defend against longer teams and could not shoot over the top of them. Hoping it is for a backup role

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 01:37 PM
Our weakness was having undersized guards. Could not defend against longer teams and could not shoot over the top of them. Hoping it is for a backup role

I have to believe it is for a backup role. If it is not then we must be preparing to play zone next year because teams will abuse us in pick and rolls with two sub 6 ft guards on the floor.

msstate7
03-29-2024, 01:47 PM
Kanye Clary- 5’11 PG previously at Penn State just committed. 16.7 PPG last year. Splits are 46/38/81. Not going to lie, unless he is being brought in as a backup I am not understanding this. Hubbard is already out there at 5’10-5’11 and we are going to bring in another sub 6 ft guy.

Avg over 16 in the big 10 is impressive. He's not gonna be a backup.

Irondawg
03-29-2024, 01:53 PM
He's good but he did either leave or get kicked off in Feb so something to learn more about.

Could be Hubbard insurance as well as much I hope that's not the case. If we do retain Hubbard though, you have to think this means the end of Shak as I don't see Jans carrying three sub 6'0 guards on the roster. We are going to have to get a big 6'3 or more combo guards to help on on defense here.

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 01:53 PM
Avg over 16 in the big 10 is impressive. He's not gonna be a backup.

If that is the case this makes less than zero sense unless we are losing Hubbard. Offensive production is great but unless we are going in on being the next Bama, which is not Jans style in any way, this get makes no sense. We already have Hubbard who is a defensive liability due to the height and we are adding another defensive liability due to height. Again, maybe we are planning on playing a bunch of zone next year, but on the surface this is a puzzling pickup. Not saying it is a bad pickup because he can score. Just a puzzling pickup due to the height and already having a sub 6 ft guard as well as Shak who is straight up 6 ft.

ZedFedder
03-29-2024, 02:01 PM
38% 3pt shooter? I?m in.

msstate7
03-29-2024, 02:02 PM
No idea how they work defensively, but Josh isn't that good at the point, so this lets Josh not play there as much

msstate7
03-29-2024, 02:16 PM
Anyone know what the dismissal was for?

msstate7
03-29-2024, 02:22 PM
Carry 16.7 ppg
Josh 17.1 ppg
Matthews 9.4 ppg

Pretty good start scoring wise to the team next season.

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 02:31 PM
Carry 16.7 ppg
Josh 17.1 ppg
Matthews 9.4 ppg

Pretty good start scoring wise to the team next season.

Oh offensively this solves a lot of issues. I do worry about the defense though. Interesting to see how we continue to add in the portal. I still think we need some 3 and D guys.

msstate7
03-29-2024, 02:38 PM
Oh offensively this solves a lot of issues. I do worry about the defense though. Interesting to see how we continue to add in the portal. I still think we need some 3 and D guys.

That would be great. Maybe we hit on some guys this offseason

Irondawg
03-29-2024, 02:41 PM
Need a rim protector or two for sure. And a wing that's close to DJ on defense, but with more offensive consistency

msstate7
03-29-2024, 02:43 PM
Need a rim protector or two for sure. And a wing that's close to DJ on defense, but with more offensive consistency

We have DJ's defensive replacement already in jones. Hopefully this is the season his practice shooting translates to games

msstate7
03-29-2024, 02:46 PM
If we have cam and Hubbard lined up to return, I'd go all in on Clifford Omoruyi. If there's a more Chris Jans player, I can't think of him. His defense would be huge now that we addressed some scoring

NCMSTFAN
03-29-2024, 02:59 PM
I have to believe it is for a backup role. If it is not then we must be preparing to play zone next year because teams will abuse us in pick and rolls with two sub 6 ft guards on the floor.

A guy who put up those types of numbers in that conference usually doesn't come in to be a backup.

He seems like a good player but like most of you are saying, why bring in another undersized gaurd to put next to Hubbard? I don't hate the pickup but we are way too small on the perimeter now.

msstate7
03-29-2024, 03:02 PM
A guy who put up those types of numbers in that conference usually doesn't come in to be a backup.

He seems like a good player but like most of you are saying, why bring in another undersized gaurd to put next to Hubbard? I don't hate the pickup but we are way too small on the perimeter now.

Clifford Omoruyi! No idea if we stand a chance, but he would help neutralize our small guards

gtowndawg
03-29-2024, 03:30 PM
Kanye Clary- 5?11 PG previously at Penn State just committed. 16.7 PPG last year. Splits are 46/38/81. Not going to lie, unless he is being brought in as a backup I am not understanding this. Hubbard is already out there at 5?10-5?11 and we are going to bring in another sub 6 ft guy.

Wondering the same thing!

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 03:31 PM
Cam is back.

msstate7
03-29-2024, 03:32 PM
Cam is back.

Awesome. He's my favorite player on the team

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 03:39 PM
Awesome. He's my favorite player on the team

I just wish he could develop some sort of offensive game.

msstate7
03-29-2024, 03:43 PM
I just wish he could develop some sort of offensive game.

He was probably our best driver last season which is pretty sad. I don't need him to be a good mid range guy... I'll be ecstatic if he can just get to 70% ft

cheewgumm
03-29-2024, 03:45 PM
Clary is a top flight scorer. This is exciting.

We NEED that Rutgers center.

Hubbard
Clary
Cam
S Jones (driving to basket)
Rutgers center

BigDawg81
03-29-2024, 03:48 PM
Wondering the same thing! I understand stand this completely. Clary with be the point and Hubbard will be the 2.

NCMSTFAN
03-29-2024, 04:00 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-w_a8qYoDfU&pp=ygUXa2FueWUgY2xhcnkgYmFza2V0YmFsbCA%3D

Here's his video... He is a crafty lefty who is pretty quick going side to side.. not a great athlete but not a bad one either, he looks savy and confident. I still don't know how he and Hubbard fit together but I'll have to trust Jans. He also shoots the 3 and free throws well so that's always a plus.

NCMSTFAN
03-29-2024, 04:03 PM
I understand stand this completely. Clary with be the point and Hubbard will be the 2.

My worry there is Clary only averaged 2.8 assist per game. Hubbard only averaged 1.7 apg..... neither are great playmakers. They are both scoring gaurds

msstate7
03-29-2024, 04:05 PM
Any word on Murphy? I'd like to have his passing ability back

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 04:09 PM
Any word on Murphy? I'd like to have his passing ability back

Expect him to transfer

msstate7
03-29-2024, 04:13 PM
Expect him to transfer

Figured as much. As much as I ripped him, I like his potential, so I'd love to have him back

smootness
03-29-2024, 04:23 PM
My worry there is Clary only averaged 2.8 assist per game. Hubbard only averaged 1.7 apg..... neither are great playmakers. They are both scoring gaurds

That is fine, we need scorers. To be honest, I am ok with neither guy giving the ball up too much.

NCMSTFAN
03-29-2024, 04:30 PM
Figured as much. As much as I ripped him, I like his potential, so I'd love to have him back

I would too. Murphy has NBA potential with his skill set and size. And to his defense was injured alot this season so that plays a part. I'd like to keep him around though

NCMSTFAN
03-29-2024, 04:34 PM
That is fine, we need scorers. To be honest, I am ok with neither guy giving the ball up too much.

Oh I'm with you there...dont get me wrong I like the pickup, just voicing my concerns... but the kid averaged 17 ppg and led his team in scoring in a really good conference so I will take him all day long.

Getting Cam back is even bigger now because believe it or not he led our team in assist, so he can to play that Point Forward role for us sometimes.

Goldendawg
03-29-2024, 04:46 PM
Kanye Clary- 5?11 PG previously at Penn State just committed. 16.7 PPG last year. Splits are 46/38/81. Not going to lie, unless he is being brought in as a backup I am not understanding this. Hubbard is already out there at 5?10-5?11 and we are going to bring in another sub 6 ft guy.

Need a good guard well over 6'0" in the mix. Worry about 5'10" & 5'11" on the court together against much taller opposition on both O & D.

NCMSTFAN
03-29-2024, 08:32 PM
Need a good guard well over 6'0" in the mix. Worry about 5'10" & 5'11" on the court together against much taller opposition on both O & D.

Everyone has kinda already said that including myself. But on the positive side we have two proven scoring gaurds who both can go for 20 plus on any given night

msstate7
03-29-2024, 08:37 PM
A rim protector could help offset guard size.

StarkVegasSteve
03-29-2024, 08:53 PM
A rim protector could help offset guard size.

We just do not need another rim protector that is going to clog the lane on offense like Tolu. Cam’s only offense is cuts to the goals and driving when he gets a head full of steam.

msugolf
03-29-2024, 09:04 PM
We just do not need another rim protector that is going to clog the lane on offense like Tolu. Cam’s only offense is cuts to the goals and driving when he gets a head full of steam.

Everyone on the floor, even our bigs, should be able to hit an open 3 if left open. If you cant do that, then you better be great at most everything else

SteelCurtain74
03-31-2024, 07:16 PM
Kugel committed to Kansas.

CaptainObvious
03-31-2024, 07:39 PM
I went to the portal. My goodness!
Iowa State, Washington State, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Louisville will all have completely new teams next year. Rutgers and UCF aren't far behind.

msstate7
04-01-2024, 08:47 AM
Any news on guys we losing/recruiting?

StarkVegasSteve
04-01-2024, 09:54 AM
Any news on guys we losing/recruiting?

It will probably be quiet this week. Most coaches will be at the convention in Phoenix this weekend. I imagine everything will get kicked into overdrive next week. I would imagine that is when to expect news from Murphy, Moore, and any others we may lose.

trob115
04-01-2024, 02:25 PM
Some optimism now regarding Murphy coming back.

BeardoMSU
04-01-2024, 02:58 PM
https://twitter.com/jhubb_3/status/1774887862493647188?t=8pTel0Fod2WNG1VAVNxwBg&s=19

msstate7
04-01-2024, 03:08 PM
Nice. Let's find a big now

StarkVegasSteve
04-01-2024, 03:20 PM
That is the big one to keep. You can get people to come play with him. Glad he ended any speculation

ZedFedder
04-01-2024, 05:19 PM
It wouldn?t surprise me to see Hubbard average 20 a game next year.

Bothrops
04-01-2024, 06:18 PM
Hubbard returning is paramount to success next year. We would have been shit without him this year.

StarkVegasSteve
04-03-2024, 01:14 PM
Shakeel has entered the portal. Had to feel this was coming with Clary.

NWADAWG
04-03-2024, 01:40 PM
Shakeel has entered the portal. Had to feel this was coming with Clary.

On paper, this trade seems like an upgrade. What do you experts think?

StarkVegasSteve
04-03-2024, 01:47 PM
Added a few players today that we are showing interest in.

StarkVegasSteve
04-03-2024, 01:48 PM
On paper, this trade seems like an upgrade. What do you experts think?

From an offensive standpoint it is a massive upgrade since Shak just refused to shoot from about January on this year. I will have to see how Clary's defense is to see how much of an overall upgrade it will be.

NCMSTFAN
04-03-2024, 02:17 PM
On paper, this trade seems like an upgrade. What do you experts think?

Clary should give us more offense than Shak so that's a plus, but Shak has more size and would actually play solid defense on the perimeter. I watched a Penn State podcast about Clary after we picked him up and the hosts were saying his offense is good but he played no defense. With Clary and Hubbard in the back court together we have a chance to be explosive offensively but very limited defensively.

ZedFedder
04-03-2024, 02:39 PM
I felt Shak always had another level to give but never got there.

HoopsDawg
04-03-2024, 02:50 PM
I felt Shak always had another level to give but never got there.

Definitely. Elite athlete and handle.

BigDawg81
04-03-2024, 07:09 PM
Clary should give us more offense than Shak so that's a plus, but Shak has more size and would actually play solid defense on the perimeter. I watched a Penn State podcast about Clary after we picked him up and the hosts were saying his offense is good but he played no defense. With Clary and Hubbard in the back court together we have a chance to be explosive offensively but very limited defensively.
I will give up a little defense for more offense. 3 out of the 4 teams in the final 4 averaged over 80 ppg

NCMSTFAN
04-04-2024, 12:55 PM
I will give up a little defense for more offense. 3 out of the 4 teams in the final 4 averaged over 80 ppg

I'm not disagreeing with you, I would too but there comes a time during games where you simply have to get stops and having two gaurds in the backcourt that are both less than 6 ft tall puts you at a huge disadvantage on the perimeter defensively. I'm not one of those guys to think that defense wins Championships, especially in college basketball because at the end of the day you have to go get buckets. But there are stretches in games that you have to really lock in on defense and get some stops and that's where we will be limited on the perimeter. As I've said numerous times I like the pickup of Clary alot... just voicing my concerns

msstate7
04-04-2024, 01:19 PM
Mady sissoko from Michigan st would be a nice big man target. Comes from a defense first school and defense is what we need most down low

BeardoMSU
04-04-2024, 01:24 PM
Shak in the portal.

BigDawg81
04-04-2024, 05:48 PM
According to Robbie, State is very close to announcing some portal news.

NCMSTFAN
04-04-2024, 06:19 PM
According to Robbie, State is very close to announcing some portal news.

There is a big out of Minnesota I saw some rumors about, I wasn't that impressed with his game though

maroonmania
04-04-2024, 07:12 PM
I will give up a little defense for more offense. 3 out of the 4 teams in the final 4 averaged over 80 ppg

You have to put more emphasis on offense. Its really hard to play top notch defense these days because of all the rule changes to aid the offensive player. Nobody really holds teams down defensively like they used to. Its still important but you really can't use a guy any more that is just a defensive specialist while being a total liability on offense.

StarkVegasSteve
04-05-2024, 10:40 AM
There is a big out of Minnesota I saw some rumors about, I wasn't that impressed with his game though

That is it. It is Joshua Ola-Joseph. Played some at Minnesota. I would expect he is coming in to be in that second group. I doubt he pushes for a starting spot.

msstate7
04-05-2024, 12:54 PM
That is it. It is Joshua Ola-Joseph. Played some at Minnesota. I would expect he is coming in to be in that second group. I doubt he pushes for a starting spot.

15 min/game
7.5 ppg
2.2 rpg
40.6% 3
73.5% FT

That's pretty good production in limited action

msstate7
04-06-2024, 02:38 PM
Alijah Martin (FAU) is in the portal with a do not contact. Anyone know where he's going?

NCMSTFAN
04-06-2024, 08:53 PM
That is it. It is Joshua Ola-Joseph. Played some at Minnesota. I would expect he is coming in to be in that second group. I doubt he pushes for a starting spot.

I just don't see him being an addition we need, he was a solid player but we need to replace Tolu, Bell and Jeffries.. I guess he could be a replacement for Jeffries, they are similar in size but we have to get some offensive post production

msstate7
04-06-2024, 09:00 PM
I just don't see him being an addition we need, he was a solid player but we need to replace Tolu, Bell and Jeffries.. I guess he could be a replacement for Jeffries, they are similar in size but we have to get some offensive post production

I don't want a tolu replacement. I want a rim protector to clean up what our short guards allow. I wanna spread teams out next year, and let clary drive and score or kick out to Hubbard

Extendedcab
04-07-2024, 12:43 PM
With Jans being reported to leave for AR, how does that change the portal effort? We need a replacement for Jans quickly!!

Bothrops
04-07-2024, 01:40 PM
With Jans being reported to leave for AR, how does that change the portal effort? We need a replacement for Jans quickly!!

It knocks it in the head. We should move on to football.

NCMSTFAN
04-07-2024, 04:40 PM
With Jans being reported to leave for AR, how does that change the portal effort? We need a replacement for Jans quickly!!

If Jans is gone we can potentially lose most of the team including Hubbard. Its going to depend on who we hire and how soon we can get them in. I think if we can get a Will Wade type of guy he can keep the team together

msstate7
04-08-2024, 01:29 PM
Visit scheduled for Sam Alexis.

Commercecomet24
04-08-2024, 01:51 PM
Visit scheduled for Sam Alexis.

Whats the scouting report on him, 7?

msstate7
04-08-2024, 02:00 PM
Whats the scouting report on him, 7?

Just know his stats...
6'9" 230
10.8 ppg, 9.1 rpg
55.0% fg
Poor from 3 and FT

Commercecomet24
04-08-2024, 02:05 PM
Just know his stats...
6'9" 230
10.8 ppg, 9.1 rpg
55.0% fg
Poor from 3 and FT

Gotcha. thanks.

SPDawgs
04-08-2024, 02:38 PM
He seems to fit our offense then

Turfdawg67
04-08-2024, 04:17 PM
Visit scheduled for Sam Alexis.

That's gonna be a tough sale now… "Hey, we really want you at MSU for the next 2 to 3 years, I hope I'm not here, but we really want you to be here."

NCMSTFAN
04-08-2024, 04:30 PM
That's gonna be a tough sale now… "Hey, we really want you at MSU for the next 2 to 3 years, I hope I'm not here, but we really want you to be here."

Lol too funny. But you're right, it will affect recruiting

msstate7
04-08-2024, 04:46 PM
If we offer that guy the most, he will come. If Jans leaves next season, he'll go to whoever pays him the most then. The only way it affects recruiting is if money is equal.

TALL DAWG
04-08-2024, 04:53 PM
Bingo!

Thick
04-08-2024, 08:25 PM
Jans is going nowhere right now. They are ironing out a few things, but one thing, which is an issue to me, is his buyout. He wants his buyout at $3-4mm, but Selmon says $7-8mm. Probably going to meet halfway.
This has a little hint of Dan in it.

BigDawg81
04-08-2024, 08:42 PM
Jans is going nowhere right now. They are ironing out a few things, but one thing, which is an issue to me, is his buyout. He wants his buyout at $3-4mm, but Selmon says $7-8mm. Probably going to meet halfway.
This has a little hint of Dan in it. Apparently, Jans has an offer on table that will put him around 4 mil per year. He has yet to sign it.
4 mil per is the same as the Lebby contract. Thats wild if you ask me

Commercecomet24
04-08-2024, 08:43 PM
Jans is going nowhere right now. They are ironing out a few things, but one thing, which is an issue to me, is his buyout. He wants his buyout at $3-4mm, but Selmon says $7-8mm. Probably going to meet halfway.
This has a little hint of Dan in it.

Kinda of reminiscent Isn't it?

civildawg
04-08-2024, 08:51 PM
Apparently, Jans has an offer on table that will put him around 4 mil per year. He has yet to sign it.
4 mil per is the same as the Lebby contract. Thats wild if you ask me

Yes it's wild and unnecessary. Lower the buyout and keep the pay the same. He wants out so see if he can perform next year and let him leave.

msstate7
04-08-2024, 08:53 PM
Yes it's wild and unnecessary. Lower the buyout and keep the pay the same. He wants out so see if he can perform next year and let him leave.

Good idea. Any pay increase comes with higher buy out

Leeshouldveflanked
04-08-2024, 09:06 PM
Kinda of reminiscent Isn't it?

Dan > Jans

Commercecomet24
04-08-2024, 09:07 PM
Dan > Jans

Up to this point, I agree.

Goldendawg
04-08-2024, 11:44 PM
Yes it's wild and unnecessary. Lower the buyout and keep the pay the same. He wants out so see if he can perform next year and let him leave.

Next year will be even more interesting now. Most of Howland's guys gone & only difference maker Jans has brought in is Hubbard who fell in his lap. On him to rebuild & improve team in 2024. We'll see.

msstate7
04-09-2024, 06:13 AM
Clary is a top 40 transfer on both on3 and 247. Maybe we should see how this plays out...

HeCannotGo
04-09-2024, 06:27 AM
That's gonna be a tough sale now… "Hey, we really want you at MSU for the next 2 to 3 years, I hope I'm not here, but we really want you to be here."

I don't think it will matter much, if at all. Seems like no one in college basketball plans beyond the upcoming season. Players are just looking for that next paycheck and can get it from another school just as easy as the current one.

Commercecomet24
04-09-2024, 09:48 AM
Clary is a top 40 transfer on both on3 and 247. Maybe we should see how this plays out...

We needed to add scorers and he's a scorer. I know he's undersized but he and Hubbard should be a pretty dynamic pair.

BeardoMSU
04-09-2024, 01:23 PM
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1777755875593032001

msstate7
04-09-2024, 01:25 PM
That weird looking dude would draw a crowd. We need him

gtowndawg
04-09-2024, 01:33 PM
Just know his stats...

Poor from 3 and FT

Great

msstate7
04-09-2024, 01:35 PM
Great

Not concerned about that from our big.

If we can somehow get de'shayne Montgomery to go with clary and Hubbard, we will have plenty of scoring. Need some front court guys that can rebound and defend

Saltydog
04-09-2024, 04:13 PM
I don't think we have a chance but I'd love to get Robbie Avilla from Indiana State. He just announced he's entering the portal but that's a pipe dream. He's an extremely popular player.

gtowndawg
04-09-2024, 04:18 PM
I don't think we have a chance but I'd love to get Robbie Avilla from Indiana State. He just announced he's entering the portal but that's a pipe dream. He's an extremely popular player.

I love Cream Abdul Jabbar too, but I think he would struggle against SEC talent. It will be very interesting to see where he ends up though.

MStateDawg
04-09-2024, 04:24 PM
I love Cream Abdul Jabbar too, but I think he would struggle against SEC talent. It will be very interesting to see where he ends up though.

He's probably following his HC to St. Louis

BeardoMSU
04-10-2024, 10:04 AM
Oh well...

https://twitter.com/247HSHoops/status/1778067471234126071

Tripp McNeely
04-10-2024, 10:04 AM
Keyshawn hits the portal...doesn't really hurt my feelings. Jans will replace that spot with equal or better.

NCMSTFAN
04-10-2024, 10:08 AM
Murphy has next level skills, he just never put it all together. I was hoping we could keep him, I wouldn't be shocked to see him flourish next year somewhere else.

With the news of Jans interviewing elsewhere I'm hoping he's still trying to recruit the portal hard because we have a lot of players to replace. We need more size, shooting and rim protection

MoreCowbell
04-10-2024, 11:00 AM
If Jans really wants out he better bust his ass in the portal. If we miss tourney his offers will dry up

msstate7
04-10-2024, 08:30 PM
Reuben Chinyelu and De?Shayne Montgomery on campus this weekend. Man, if we could pull this off...

Clary
Hubbard
Montgomery
Cam
Chinyeku

That's a nice lineup

maroonmania
04-10-2024, 09:41 PM
If Jans really wants out he better bust his ass in the portal. If we miss tourney his offers will dry up

If Jans wants players out of the portal then he needs to get his own ass out of the coaching portal and sign his extension.

NCMSTFAN
04-10-2024, 10:07 PM
Reuben Chinyelu and De?Shayne Montgomery on campus this weekend. Man, if we could pull this off...

Clary
Hubbard
Montgomery
Cam
Chinyeku

That's a nice lineup

I like Montgomery, he brings a little size out there on the perimeter, my only concern with him is he didn't play against a ton of tough competition coming out of Mount Saint Mary's... I don't know how his game will translate to the SEC.

Chinyeku still seems very raw offensively but he plays good on Defense, I saw some film on him and he is still learning how to play, almost like Gai Chol. I wouldn't hate either pick up especially for some depth but we are still needing to get some bona-fide SEC caliber guys to put next to Hubbard, Clary and Cam.

NCMSTFAN
04-10-2024, 10:08 PM
If Jans wants players out of the portal then he needs to get his own ass out of the coaching portal and sign his extension.

I agree

msstate7
04-13-2024, 07:15 AM
Any updates?

msstate7
04-14-2024, 06:55 PM
Scratch Alexis off the list

StarkVegasSteve
04-16-2024, 10:20 AM
De’Shayne Montgomery is one I would expect to announce for us in the near future. Also we are trying to get in on Koby Brea from Dayton who just entered. 6’6 and is almost a 50/40/90 guy. He will probably be one of the most sought after transfers.

msstate7
04-16-2024, 11:27 AM
De’Shayne Montgomery is one I would expect to announce for us in the near future. Also we are trying to get in on Koby Brea from Dayton who just entered. 6’6 and is almost a 50/40/90 guy. He will probably be one of the most sought after transfers.
Montgomery would be a good pull imo.

StarkVegasSteve
04-17-2024, 04:43 PM
Michael Nwoko just committed. 6'10 transfer freshman from Miami. Played about 9 minutes a game this year. Was a 4 star coming out of HS.

NCMSTFAN
04-17-2024, 05:28 PM
Michael Nwoko just committed. 6'10 transfer freshman from Miami. Played about 9 minutes a game this year. Was a 4 star coming out of HS.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-aN6dbwcA&pp=ygUYbWljaGFlbCBud29rbyBiYXNrZXRiYWxs

Very athletic big. He didn't play a ton at Miami but he was only a true Freshman. Not a bad pickup. We still need some proven scoring, especially in the post. We have 5 scholarships available I'm hoping Jans can get us another post player, a wing defender and some shooting with the remaining scholarships.

NCMSTFAN
04-18-2024, 04:19 PM
De'Shayne Montgomery just chose Georgia over us.. it supposedly came down to the two of us but he went with GA...

Recruiting in both men's and women's basketball has been off to a rough start. There was a big we were after that just committed elsewhere also.

StarkVegasSteve
04-18-2024, 04:27 PM
De'Shayne Montgomery just chose Georgia over us.. it supposedly came down to the two of us but he went with GA...

Recruiting in both men's and women's basketball has been off to a rough start. There was a big we were after that just committed elsewhere also.

Yea the big chose Florida over us. It comes down to NIL. Florida and Georgia have more in their NIL war chest because they don't have a bunch half of their people donating to baseball. That may sound cruel, but it's the truth. Our offer was good, but Georgia's was better.

HoopsDawg
04-18-2024, 06:35 PM
De'Shayne Montgomery just chose Georgia over us.. it supposedly came down to the two of us but he went with GA...

Recruiting in both men's and women's basketball has been off to a rough start. There was a big we were after that just committed elsewhere also.

Jans striking out per usual in recruiting.

NCMSTFAN
04-18-2024, 07:11 PM
Jans striking out per usual in recruiting.

Yep!!

SPMT
04-18-2024, 07:13 PM
De'Shayne Montgomery just chose Georgia over us.. it supposedly came down to the two of us but he went with GA...

Recruiting in both men's and women's basketball has been off to a rough start. There was a big we were after that just committed elsewhere also.

How is this baseballs fault?

In no way will we ever have the nil that Florida and Georgie have. Never. We don?t have the population, the economics and therefore we don?t have the alumni volume to produce a nil on par with those schools. Basically, no different than before.

Goldendawg
04-18-2024, 07:23 PM
Jans striking out per usual in recruiting.

Connected friend very disgusted with Jan's lack of recruiting skills 0 for 3 on recent visitors. Says hard to succeed when you want out yourself. Only recruiting success in his first two years plus here at State has been Hubbard who fell in his lap when OM fired Kermit. Next year could be brutal on the court at this rate.

RockyDog
04-18-2024, 07:33 PM
Connected friend very disgusted with Jan's lack of recruiting skills 0 for 3 on recent visitors. Says hard to succeed when you want out yourself. Only recruiting success in his first two years plus here at State has been Hubbard who fell in his lap when OM fired Kermit. Next year could be brutal on the court at this rate.

Hub is gonna have to score 50 per game. Hope we can sniff the NIT

Goldendawg
04-18-2024, 07:42 PM
Hub is gonna have to score 50 per game. Hope we can sniff the NIT

Also heard Jans went on vacation to NM when he might should have been recruiting. Don't forget his Asst HC also left for OK or OK State in this recent time frame. Was told if it wasn't for George Brooks, we would really be in worse trouble.

msstate7
04-18-2024, 07:50 PM
Jans striking out per usual in recruiting.

Just curious how much you think recruiting plays today? I think it's all about money now. Anyone know what Hubbard cost to keep?

msstate7
04-18-2024, 07:52 PM
Hub is gonna have to score 50 per game. Hope we can sniff the NIT
Clary avg 16.7 in the big 10, which was a better conference than the sec. For reference, Hubbard avg'd 17.1. Clary shot better from 3 too. Hubbard will have offensive help.

msstate7
04-18-2024, 08:10 PM
Yea the big chose Florida over us. It comes down to NIL. Florida and Georgia have more in their NIL war chest because they don't have a bunch half of their people donating to baseball. That may sound cruel, but it's the truth. Our offer was good, but Georgia's was better.

So we have some money left?

msstate7
04-18-2024, 08:11 PM
Who is nick pringle interested in? I think he could be the type of player we need - defense and rebounding.

Pancho
04-18-2024, 08:57 PM
break the bank

NCMSTFAN
04-18-2024, 09:09 PM
How is this baseballs fault?

In no way will we ever have the nil that Florida and Georgie have. Never. We don?t have the population, the economics and therefore we don?t have the alumni volume to produce a nil on par with those schools. Basically, no different than before.

I have no clue what you are talking about. I never mentioned baseball. And I'm well aware those schools are states are bigger and heavier populated. Still sucks to lose out on recruits and unless we want to be poor little old Mississippi State for the foreseeable future we are going to have to figure something out. I do my part

NCMSTFAN
04-18-2024, 09:16 PM
Just curious how much you think recruiting plays today? I think it's all about money now. Anyone know what Hubbard cost to keep?

Money absolutely plays a major factor but most kids ultimate dream is to play at the next level and make that type of money, so the coaches who have players they coached in the NBA definitely use that as a recruiting pitch. It's partly how Howland recruited so well, he would list off all of his NBA players and tell recruits he could get them there. Of course this was before NIL but that still plays a part.

StarkVegasSteve
04-18-2024, 09:26 PM
I have no clue what you are talking about. I never mentioned baseball. And I'm well aware those schools are states are bigger and heavier populated. Still sucks to lose out on recruits and unless we want to be poor little old Mississippi State for the foreseeable future we are going to have to figure something out. I do my part

He was responding to me. It is not baseball’s fault per se. it is just that our fans pour money into a sport that makes no money and treats football and basketball like red headed step children but then wonder why we do not have playmakers. Yet, will keep pouring money into a program that has not sniffed the tournament in two years and still has not used a damn NIL war chest that would rival some G5 football programs to find a closer.

NCMSTFAN
04-18-2024, 09:33 PM
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/drexel-transfer-amari-williams-down-to-kentucky-mississippi-state-st-johns/

Amari Williams is down to us, St. John's and Kentucky. We will see if Jans can get this guy. We really need him, I've seen him play he is very skilled, can pass the ball like a gaurd, very good court vision, defense and can score around the basket. 6'10" 265.... I'd feel alot better if we can pull him

msstate7
04-18-2024, 09:52 PM
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/news/drexel-transfer-amari-williams-down-to-kentucky-mississippi-state-st-johns/

Amari Williams is down to us, St. John's and Kentucky. We will see if Jans can get this guy. We really need him, I've seen him play he is very skilled, can pass the ball like a gaurd, very good court vision, defense and can score around the basket. 6'10" 265.... I'd feel alot better if we can pull him

Kentucky, well crap... hopefully they have someone above him.

msstate7
04-18-2024, 10:27 PM
Let's hope rivals is good at ranking basketball prospects... they have clary at the #10 overall transfer.

Warren is a 4-star on espn and rivals. On3 industry, rivals, and espn have him top 125; espn has him top 75.

Paymon is a 4-star on on3 and espn. On3 has him #103 nationally.

Nwoko was rated well as a HS last year. Maybe he has potential.

Gotta have more, but maybe some of these guys are gonna be ok

NCMSTFAN
04-19-2024, 04:14 PM
Let's hope rivals is good at ranking basketball prospects... they have clary at the #10 overall transfer.

Warren is a 4-star on espn and rivals. On3 industry, rivals, and espn have him top 125; espn has him top 75.

Paymon is a 4-star on on3 and espn. On3 has him #103 nationally.

Nwoko was rated well as a HS last year. Maybe he has potential.

Gotta have more, but maybe some of these guys are gonna be ok

7'1" Duke Center Christian Reeves to visit us this weekend. He got hurt after only a few games last year so he didn't really play.

Can't teach size and he's a Duke recruit so I wouldn't mind picking him up

msstate7
04-19-2024, 06:55 PM
Claudell Harris from BC will visit. Good numbers in the acc

NCMSTFAN
04-19-2024, 07:05 PM
Claudell Harris from BC will visit. Good numbers in the acc

14, 4 and 2 playing at BC...I'll take that

NCMSTFAN
04-20-2024, 09:43 PM
Claudell Harris from BC will visit. Good numbers in the acc

He just committed.. Not a bad pickup

basedog
04-20-2024, 09:51 PM
3 portals Jans has committed looks pretty good.

KOdawg1
04-20-2024, 10:07 PM
Hubbard, Clary, and Harris is a helluva guard rotation

RockyDog
04-20-2024, 10:19 PM
Frommer reporting that Murphy is coming back to the team.

BigDawg81
04-20-2024, 10:22 PM
With Murphy coming back, State still needs a starting Center

KOdawg1
04-20-2024, 10:23 PM
Starters:
G- Hubbard
G- Clary/Harris
Wing- Portal
PF- Matthews
C- Portal

Bench:
G- Harris/Clary
G- Warren, Russell
Wing- Jones, Myers
PF- Murphy, Paymon
C- Nwoko, Chol

Add a solid wing that can shoot 3s and defend and then a rim protector at the 5, and we're set

BeardoMSU
04-20-2024, 10:39 PM
Frommer reporting that Murphy is coming back to the team.

Nice.

msstate7
04-21-2024, 06:43 AM
Getting Harris to commit with Hubbard here, makes me thing jans is selling 3 guards. Clary is listed as a pg, so I expect him to start there.

NCMSTFAN
04-21-2024, 09:49 AM
I actually like what Jans has done in the portal. These are proven scorers from Power 5 schools and all can shoot. We still need another post scorer to go along with what we have but Jans is doing a good job in the portal so far

Turfdawg67
04-21-2024, 06:47 PM
No huge shocker but Amari Williams committed to UK.

msstate7
04-21-2024, 06:51 PM
No huge shocker but Amari Williams committed to UK.

Yep. We have no shot vs a program like that for a non-MS kid unless we really overpay

BeardoMSU
04-23-2024, 05:07 PM
https://twitter.com/kballer_21/status/1782840772795985975?t=ocOBWFoGuUtd0BsNS_x7Wg&s=19

StarkVegasSteve
04-24-2024, 08:16 AM
Right now we are just missing a center. There's still plenty of options in the portal. Jans has gotten a nice portal haul early on so now we're not waiting until July/August on multiple portal targets.

KentuckyDawg13
04-25-2024, 08:27 AM
Please basketball gods....make it happen.

StarkVegasSteve
04-25-2024, 09:05 AM
Please basketball gods....make it happen.

He doesn't have a visit scheduled with us so I imagine that ship has sailed. I know we're on KaSean Pryor right now and a couple of others. There's also a thought that we're going to basically play with 4 guards and put Murphy at the 5. We would go Clary, Hubbard, Harris, Matthews, Murphy.

msstate7
04-25-2024, 02:42 PM
He doesn't have a visit scheduled with us so I imagine that ship has sailed. I know we're on KaSean Pryor right now and a couple of others. There's also a thought that we're going to basically play with 4 guards and put Murphy at the 5. We would go Clary, Hubbard, Harris, Matthews, Murphy.

Jans going offense if that's true.

StarkVegasSteve
04-25-2024, 02:44 PM
Jans going offense if that's true.

It may be the best option. You know what you'll get from Cam defensively and if you can get a good C out of the portal you can teach defense and limit the spots where we'll need to sit down and guard. With the guys we have currently brought in we need to look to run and gun.

StarkVegasSteve
04-25-2024, 04:06 PM
We are in communication with UNCW transfer Trazarien White. He would be a game changer and will be sought after.

msstate7
04-25-2024, 05:45 PM
I hope we try to get Pringle of bama. He'd be a good defensive piece down low

NCMSTFAN
04-25-2024, 05:55 PM
He doesn't have a visit scheduled with us so I imagine that ship has sailed. I know we're on KaSean Pryor right now and a couple of others. There's also a thought that we're going to basically play with 4 guards and put Murphy at the 5. We would go Clary, Hubbard, Harris, Matthews, Murphy.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-aN6dbwcA&pp=ygUYbWljaGFlbCBud29rbyBiYXNrZXRiYWxs

Let's not forget about 6'10 Michael Nwoko who Jans picked up.. as a true freshman at Miami he only played around 9 minutes a game, averaged 3 pts 2 rebs but he has TONS of upside. A very athletic big. Can you imagine how athletic our front court would be with him and Cam? Check out his video, I know all highlight tapes are deceiving but you can't teach that athleticism, I dont think he is ready to start yet but he can provide valuable minutes

Gai Chol is still on the team too plus freshman big Chol Machot. If Jans can go get us another solid scoring big to add to this we are going to be a problem.

NCMSTFAN
04-25-2024, 06:04 PM
We are in communication with UNCW transfer Trazarien White. He would be a game changer and will be sought after.

He's a pure scorer if we can figure out a way to get him I have to take back everything ive said about Jans recruiting. He is one of those game changing players. If you haven't watched, go see his highlights agsinst UK.

HoopsDawg
04-25-2024, 09:54 PM
He's a pure scorer if we can figure out a way to get him I have to take back everything ive said about Jans recruiting. He is one of those game changing players. If you haven't watched, go see his highlights agsinst UK.

He's a blow ur NIL type guy

msstate7
04-26-2024, 10:20 AM
This seems like the right place to vent...

I really hate the transfer portal and conference realignment. When I was a teen, I loved college basketball. Now the conferences I loved to watch have been shuffled, players jump from team to team, and you don't get to see teams grow up together. I've got to where I can only really watch sec games and the tourney.

StarkVegasSteve
04-26-2024, 11:32 AM
This seems like the right place to vent...

I really hate the transfer portal and conference realignment. When I was a teen, I loved college basketball. Now the conferences I loved to watch have been shuffled, players jump from team to team, and you don't get to see teams grow up together. I've got to where I can only really watch sec games and the tourney.

It's like I've said since all this was implemented. The portal itself isn't bad and NIL itself is not bad. They're not even terrible together. It's the immediate eligibility for multi time transfers that has pushed this over the edge. I was ok with one free transfer. But to let a guy transfer 4 times in 4 years and never sit out is just lunacy. I mean it's free agency without a salary cap. It's like a guy signing a 4 yr deal with the Grizzlies and then deciding that he doesn't want to play for them after a year and just signs with the Lakers in the offseason. We went from no power with the players to all the power is with the players. The pendulum swung too far. The school has to have some power of these kids. They need to be signing contracts. And either you sign a 1 yr, 2 yr, etc. But you and the school are bound to that contract. So if you want to transfer, you have to pay the buyout and if the school wants to cut you then they have to buy out the contract. We just need to end the fallacy of student athletes, none of these kids are students anymore. They're employees. There's no way a kid like AJ Storr has any chance to graduate. He will be on his 3rd school next year....IN 3 YEARS.

Extendedcab
04-26-2024, 04:50 PM
It's like I've said since all this was implemented. The portal itself isn't bad and NIL itself is not bad. They're not even terrible together. It's the immediate eligibility for multi time transfers that has pushed this over the edge. I was ok with one free transfer. But to let a guy transfer 4 times in 4 years and never sit out is just lunacy. I mean it's free agency without a salary cap. It's like a guy signing a 4 yr deal with the Grizzlies and then deciding that he doesn't want to play for them after a year and just signs with the Lakers in the offseason. We went from no power with the players to all the power is with the players. The pendulum swung too far. The school has to have some power of these kids. They need to be signing contracts. And either you sign a 1 yr, 2 yr, etc. But you and the school are bound to that contract. So if you want to transfer, you have to pay the buyout and if the school wants to cut you then they have to buy out the contract. We just need to end the fallacy of student athletes, none of these kids are students anymore. They're employees. There's no way a kid like AJ Storr has any chance to graduate. He will be on his 3rd school next year....IN 3 YEARS.

This is why I am very rapidly losing interest in college athletics.