Thank God we beat Tenn

[msstate7]

It's chaos out there. We're now in last 4 byes according to lunardi behind aTm, which I don't understand

[Quaoarsking]

I was just thinking that. If we'd lost to Tennessee, we'd be at best in Dayton and a decent chance we'd be out. We'd definitely be out if we'd lost to LSU.

It's actually still possible they send us to Dayton. A lot of the brackets on BM now have us as one of the last 4 in, with Oregon and NC State stealing bids today, and FAU losing and giving the American a 2nd bid.

The Dayton games are probably going to be for 10-seeds.

[KOdawg1]

Saw a lot of people down playing the Tennessee game before we played it, basically saying that we were a lock and it didn't matter.

Those people were wrong. We would've likely gotten left out without that win.

[Quaoarsking]

https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2024-march-madness-men-field-predictions

Both of the Dayton games are 10-seeds, with the "Last 4 Byes" now are 2 9s (us and A&M) and 2 10s. This is because all of the mid-major teams getting decent seeds this year are coming from either the MWC or WCC, so there are more lower tier 1-bid champions clogging up the lower rankings than usual. Those tend to take up the 13-16 seeds, with decent mid-majors in the 12s, and the last at-larges in the 11s, but this year, the 11s are still autobids (including Oregon and NC State), and pushing the last 4 at larges up to 10s.

[parabrave]

Latest has us a 9 seed playing Boise St in the Uconn bracket

[R2Dawg]

The play in game being a 10 seed is ridiculous and just wrong. Should be the 16 seed every year IMO.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Wow I just saw all the upsets from last night. We are so lucky we beat Tenn or there is a good chance we would be left out. I can’t believe UConn was the only #1 seed in the Power 6 to win their conference. This leads me to believe a lot of the higher seeded teams and auto locks took things easy during the conference tournaments. Honestly, I’m not a fan of conference tournaments and I wish they would do away with them. The real champion should be the one who went through 3 months of conference games and that team should get the auto bid and then the field be based off that. It kind of reminds me of the bowl season for football with all the opt outs. Expand the CFB play off to 16 teams and keep the bowl games for smaller teams that won’t have enough players on the team good enough to opt out where it will impact the outcome enough.

[chef dixon]

Better believe the committee is going to think long and hard about putting us in Dayton. Hopefully they will decide not to just because we were there last year

[basedog]

We are in, it's a no brainer, no sense in worrying and for goodness sakes quit the "oh crap we are an 8 or 9 seed". One game at a time from here on out, we can beat any team in the country on a giving night. I agree with the panel of ex Sec players talking about the Sec has the best top 8 teams in the country and will make some noise in the Ncaa. We've beaten the best and of course we have lost to some of the best but have had a chance to win.
Moving forward, teams that shoot the best usually win in tourney play. Let's hope we get hot again.

[smootness]

The play in game being a 10 seed is ridiculous and just wrong. Should be the 16 seed every year IMO.

I actually think the opposite. I think the play-ins should involve the last 8 at-large teams playing their way into the Tourney. If you get an auto bid, you should be in. It definitely makes no sense to have 4 16s and 4 at-large, though.

[parabrave]

Wow I just saw all the upsets from last night. We are so lucky we beat Tenn or there is a good chance we would be left out. I can’t believe UConn was the only #1 seed in the Power 6 to win their conference. This leads me to believe a lot of the higher seeded teams and auto locks took things easy during the conference tournaments. Honestly, I’m not a fan of conference tournaments and I wish they would do away with them. The real champion should be the one who went through 3 months of conference games and that team should get the auto bid and then the field be based off that. It kind of reminds me of the bowl season for football with all the opt outs. Expand the CFB play off to 16 teams and keep the bowl games for smaller teams that won’t have enough players on the team good enough to opt out where it will impact the outcome enough.

Houston basically played their 2nd string last night and lost to Iowa State.

[R2Dawg]

I actually think the opposite. I think the play-ins should involve the last 8 at-large teams playing their way into the Tourney. If you get an auto bid, you should be in. It definitely makes no sense to have 4 16s and 4 at-large, though.

Even the play in teams are "in" the tourney. I just don't think it is fair to penalize a much better team having to play an extra game like a 10 seed. That means there are 24 teams not as good that get a bye just because they play in a weak conference. Not fair at all but I guess that is the equity game being applied like all conferences are the same - Not.

[R2Dawg]

We are in, it's a no brainer, no sense in worrying and for goodness sakes quit the "oh crap we are an 8 or 9 seed". One game at a time from here on out, we can beat any team in the country on a giving night. I agree with the panel of ex Sec players talking about the Sec has the best top 8 teams in the country and will make some noise in the Ncaa. We've beaten the best and of course we have lost to some of the best but have had a chance to win.
Moving forward, teams that shoot the best usually win in tourney play. Let's hope we get hot again.

We are in and there is no sweating it. We are a tourney team and all got to see it in SECT again.

[msstate7]

We are in and there is no sweating it. We are a tourney team and all got to see it in SECT again.

I'm sweating the play-in games. I don't wanna do that again

[chef dixon]

The Oregon win probably didn't affect our position. Colorado is projected behind us in most brackets now, so that didn't put 2 teams safely in ahead of us. The NC state win might be the one that put us in the Dayton discussion. Most think we are safe from that but the committee always has 1 or 2 bubble decisions that are not was are projecting

[msudawg1200]

The Oregon win probably didn't affect our position. Colorado is projected behind us in most brackets now, so that didn't put 2 teams safely in ahead of us. The NC state win might be the one that put us in the Dayton discussion. Most think we are safe from that but the committee always has 1 or 2 bubble decisions that are not was are projecting

Yep, us last year. Most had us avoiding the play in last year, but we see what happened. I DON'T trust that committee at all.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Yep, us last year. Most had us avoiding the play in last year, but we see what happened. I DON'T trust that committee at all.

Is LT on the committee?

[NCMSTFAN]

I don't want to be in a play in situation again and doubt we are... other than that I don't care who we play or where we play. I think Jans will turn up our defensive intensity and make it hard for anyone we play. I understand we can lose to anyone but I wholeheartedly feel like we can beat anyone in this tournament.

One thing that is special about the NCAA tournament is players get discovered. This is a prime opportunity for a player like Josh Hubbard to show the world who he is and I'm excited to see what may happen.

[StarkVegasSteve]

As long as we avoid the play in I like our chances of getting to the second weekend. 3 games in 3 days will be something we do not have to do the rest of the way so our legs should not be an issue.

[smootness]

Even the play in teams are "in" the tourney. I just don't think it is fair to penalize a much better team having to play an extra game like a 10 seed. That means there are 24 teams not as good that get a bye just because they play in a weak conference. Not fair at all but I guess that is the equity game being applied like all conferences are the same - Not.

I think the extra teams and the play-in is stupid, I would much prefer they stayed at 64. But if you are going to have them, it makes sense to give 4 extra teams a chance to play their way in, not teams who have already clinched a spot. And regardless, no one truly thinks of the play-in teams as in the tournament yet. Yes, you get to say you are and you are technically in the bracket, but no one cares about those games. The whole point of the tournament is that you do not assume anything, including the strength of the conference, you let the teams play it out. Every conference should have a representative in the 64-team field. It makes no sense to have some 16s and some at-larges playing. There is currently no logic to it, they just wanted more teams and did a bad job of figuring out how to include them.

[Quaoarsking]

I think the extra teams and the play-in is stupid, I would much prefer they stayed at 64. But if you are going to have them, it makes sense to give 4 extra teams a chance to play their way in, not teams who have already clinched a spot. And regardless, no one truly thinks of the play-in teams as in the tournament yet. Yes, you get to say you are and you are technically in the bracket, but no one cares about those games. The whole point of the tournament is that you do not assume anything, including the strength of the conference, you let the teams play it out. Every conference should have a representative in the 64-team field. It makes no sense to have some 16s and some at-larges playing. There is currently no logic to it, they just wanted more teams and did a bad job of figuring out how to include them.

This is false. Most people count the losers in Dayton has still having made the tournament. Remember that the tournament started doing a single game in Dayton in 2001 and the First Four in 2011, so it's not like it's some new thing that people are still getting used to.

Nobody (outside of some of our own fans) finds it questionable that we list 2023 as a year we made the NCAA Tournament.

[parabrave]

As of 1 hour ago we are still a 9 seed playing Boise State in Brooklyn. Beardo I expect to see you there,

[msstate7]

As of 1 hour ago we are still a 9 seed playing Boise State in Brooklyn. Beardo I expect to see you there,

Beardo lives in NY?

[parabrave]

Beardo lives in NY?

Around Boston I think.

[parabrave]

And Larry with a leadoff double down the 3rd baseline/

[parabrave]

Husack with the big hit down the 3rd baseline 2 runs in.

[parabrave]

Downs with the double another burner down the 3rd baseline. 3-0

[BeardoMSU]

Around Boston I think.

Central Massachusetts, but close!

[Quaoarsking]

BM labels this the "final update" but it seems like there could still be more updates: http://bracketmatrix.com/

We are in in 88/92 brackets and projected the 2nd-to-last bye. The only real suspense in the brackets is whether St. John's can knock out Texas A&M or Oklahoma for the last spot.

[Joebob]

It's chaos out there. We're now in last 4 byes according to lunardi behind aTm, which I don't understand

This is what I was worried about yesterday when I brought this subject up. Everybody thought we were in after beating LSU, but now I'm not so sure. But regardless, we're in now, playing fairly well, and have a shot at winning a game or two, depending on matchups. If we could just find a way to consistently make free throws, I'd be really excited.

[Commercecomet24]

This is false. Most people count the losers in Dayton has still having made the tournament. Remember that the tournament started doing a single game in Dayton in 2001 and the First Four in 2011, so it's not like it's some new thing that people are still getting used to.

Nobody (outside of some of our own fans) finds it questionable that we list 2023 as a year we made the NCAA Tournament.

Exactly they literally call it the field of 68. If you're in the field of 68 you're in the ncaa tournament

[parabrave]

Now a 10 seed in Dallas bracket vs Utah State. Winner vs Marquette/WKent. If we win we should have a great shot to the elite 8/ Meanwhile TAM is a 9 in same bracket ys Boise St then faces Houston. The 10 seed is a better seed

[msudawg1200]

Now a 10 seed in Dallas bracket vs Utah State. Winner vs Marquette/WKent. If we win we should have a great shot to the elite 8
I like this setup as a 10 seed better than a 9

[Quaoarsking]

Note that while many of the brackets on BM have us in Dayton, all of the top 5 most historically accurate brackets have us getting into the round of 64 directly.

[BeardoMSU]

Note that while many of the brackets on BM have us in Dayton, all of the top 5 most historically accurate brackets have us getting into the round of 64 directly.

Nice

[parabrave]

What time they announcing the brackets. Going to eat Mex and they only have soccer on

[msudawg1200]

What time they announcing the brackets. Going to eat Mex and they only have soccer on

Starts at 5 on CBS

[Quaoarsking]

What time they announcing the brackets. Going to eat Mex and they only have soccer on

It will be on Twitter and other social media as soon (or possibly a little bit before) it's on the show.

[Commercecomet24]

It will be on Twitter and other social media as soon (or possibly a little bit before) it's on the show.

Q in your opinion where you think we wind up. I think we wind up a 9 seed but I'm not a basketball aficionado like some if y'all.

[Quaoarsking]

Q in your opinion where you think we wind up. I think we wind up a 9 seed but I'm not a basketball aficionado like some if y'all.

I predict we are a 10, but don't have to go to Dayton. I wouldn't be shocked if we get a 9 instead, or if we have to go to Dayton, but I think the non-Dayton 10 is the most likely.

I'm hoping we get matched up with Utah State or Nevada as the 7, because I think we probably win.

[msstate7]

Auburn a 4? Ouch, don't like that

[Commercecomet24]

I predict we are a 10, but don't have to go to Dayton. I wouldn't be shocked if we get a 9 instead, or if we have to go to Dayton, but I think the non-Dayton 10 is the most likely.

I'm hoping we get matched up with Utah State or Nevada as the 7, because I think we probably win.

Thanks for the info! The way they do all this stuff with basketball now is too much for my old mind . Thanks for the updates!

[msstate7]

Not in east

[chef dixon]

Don't love the FAU seed

[Quaoarsking]

So far no concerns.

[LC Dawg]

Auburn a 4? Ouch, don't like that

FAU as an 8 is concerning too.

[msstate7]

3 teams (UConn, Auburn, and Illinois) I thought could make a final 4 run are in same bracket.

[MoreCowbell]

Northwestern a 9 and Washington State a 7. Our resume much better than Northwestern and beat them on neutral court. Be surprised if we are worse than a 9

[civildawg]

I thought we were safely out of the play in game but I'm not sure now

[MoreCowbell]

Why is FAU an 8 concerning? CBS experts saying they were surprised they were that high. Would think that bodes well for us since our resume better

[Quaoarsking]

I don't love Texas A&M as a 9. We may be headed to Dayton.

[MoreCowbell]

Think we are in good shape. Have better resume than every 9 so far

[LC Dawg]

A&M as a 9. Don't see how they can seed us below them but you can never tell.

[msstate7]

Kentucky a 3 and Auburn a 4. I'd be pissed if I were auburn

[MoreCowbell]

I don't love Texas A&M as a 9. We may be headed to Dayton.

Why? We have better resume than every 9 seed so far

[LC Dawg]

Why is FAU an 8 concerning? CBS experts saying they were surprised they were that high. Would think that bodes well for us since our resume better

Unless the committee sees it differently than the "experts".

[Quaoarsking]

Wow, Boise State was projected as an 8 but gets Dayton.

[MoreCowbell]

Unless the committee sees it differently than the "experts".

We have much better resume

[msstate7]

Kentucky is going to elite 8

[Quaoarsking]

OK, still no concerns really. No projected OUT team has been in the bracket. Boise State headed to Dayton might give us a ticket straight into the 64.

[MoreCowbell]

Kentucky is going to elite 8
Yeah they got a great draw

[LC Dawg]

SEC Tournament doesn't seem to matter that much so far. Maybe it helped A&M but definitely not Auburn.

[MoreCowbell]

I bet we are an 8

[BeardoMSU]

SEC Tournament doesn't seem to matter that much so far. Maybe it helped A&M but definitely not Auburn.

We were a 13 after winning it, so ye...

[Quaoarsking]

Basically there are 2 more 9s and 3 more 10s, with 2 of those 10s going to Dayton.

Those 5 teams are probably us, TCU, Michigan State, Colorado State, and Oklahoma. St. John's could bump one of those out. Also possible that one of us gets an 8.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I was really hoping to see us in the Dallas regional. Interesting to see what draw we get now. We avoided the two worst 1 seeds in my opinion.

[civildawg]

Kentucky getting a 3 seed and auburn getting a 4 is so head scratching to me

[msstate7]

SEC Tournament doesn't seem to matter that much so far. Maybe it helped A&M but definitely not Auburn.

Auburn got screwed. They're #5 in net and #4 kenpom

[StarkVegasSteve]

Starting to believe the play in may be our fate.

[LC Dawg]

Not gonna be in Dayton.

[Quaoarsking]

Ugh, Virginia gets in. Somebody is getting screwed.

[msstate7]

West it is. Arizona our 1?

[civildawg]

Are we about to get left out? I'm nervous

[MoreCowbell]

Nice, no Dayton

[MoreCowbell]

West it is. Arizona our 1?

Houston. Or did I miss them getting called?

[Quaoarsking]

Are we about to get left out? I'm nervous

Probably not. Oklahoma will probably be left out. But I guess we'll see.

[msstate7]

Houston. Or did I miss them getting called?

South, but probably North Carolina

[LC Dawg]

Houston. Or did I miss them getting called?

Houston is South #1

[MoreCowbell]

Forgot how nerve racking this is

[HoopsDawg]

So vs UNC in 2nd round??

[msstate7]

So vs UNC in 2nd round??

Maybe we get 10-seed and face Arizona

[MoreCowbell]

Would love for AZ to be our 1. They are a finesse team

[Quaoarsking]

I think it's likely Dayton/Michigan State in the 8/9 game, and we'll be in the 10 in the last bracket. But damn, I'm getting nervous.

[HoopsDawg]

Maybe we get 10-seed and face Arizona

Same bracket as Bama too.

[LC Dawg]

I think it's likely Dayton/Michigan State in the 8/9 game, and we'll be in the 10 in the last bracket. But damn, I'm getting nervous.

Yeah, we just had to be in the last bracket announced.

[BeardoMSU]

MSU vs MSU

[msstate7]

That's a good matchup for us, I think.

[Quaoarsking]

YES!

[HoopsDawg]

UNC in Charlotte.

[MoreCowbell]

Told yall

[LC Dawg]

I'll take it!

[NCMSTFAN]

Nice! Let's go fellas!!!

[BeardoMSU]

Do we like this matchup?

[MoreCowbell]

Lets do it boys.

[civildawg]

I do not like playing Michigan state in the tournament

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will take it. Tolu can bully Bacot if he will decide to. And Jeffries or Matthews will shut down Davis.

[MoreCowbell]

Gonna be a physical game. Michigan State has a great defense.

[msstate7]

I do not like playing Michigan state in the tournament

We're basically playing ourselves. I would much rather face them than someone that can shoot the lights out

[PMDawg]

Holy cow. Hardest draw ever. Tom Izzo, then UNC, then our cryptonite team in Alabama should we make the sweet 16.

[MoreCowbell]

We are very similar teams.

Us- 50 offense/20 defense Kenpom
Mich. State- 57 offense/8 defense Kenpom

[LC Dawg]

Play like we did in the SEC tourney and we have a helluva shot.

[HoopsDawg]

We are very similar teams.

Us- 50 offense/20 defense Kenpom
Mich. State- 57 offense/8 defense Kenpom

Going to be a slugfest.

[Commercecomet24]

We just play like we did this week and we'll be fine.

[NCMSTFAN]

We just play like we did this week and we'll be fine.

Exactly!!

[dawgday166]

I dunno myself. Whisky, Illinini, and Purdue didn't impress me. Hadn't watched but a little bit this weekend tho.

Not crazy playing Izzo tho in 1st round game. He's a really good tourney coach. Then UNC in Charlotte will be pretty tough.

Gotta come out the gates like we did last 2 games.

[BeardoMSU]

I dunno myself. Whisky, Illinini, and Purdue didn't impress me. Hadn't watched but a little bit this weekend tho.

Not crazy playing Izzo tho in 1st round game. He's a really good tourney coach. Then UNC in Charlotte will be pretty tough.

Gotta come out the gates like we did last 2 games.

Just make our layups!**

[msudawg1200]

Some guy on the College Sports channel on Sirius/XM thinks we can beat UNC and get to the Sweet 16. Hope he's right. Of course, gotta prove we're the real MSU first.

[dawgday166]

Just make our layups!**

That would be a good thing. We miss against not so good Ds. A little concerned if Izzo's D is #8. He can coach.

[LC Dawg]

Some interesting comments about Grand Canyon advancing to the Sweet 16 over Bama and although I think we can play with Purdue we definitely drew the weakest 1 seed. Keep in mind that if TN beat us they could have been the 1 instead of UNC.

[parabrave]

We are 2-0 against big 10 this year. And that was without Toulu and the updated version of Hub.

[PGHBulldogBG]

I don’t like Bama being that 4 seed. They are just an awful match up for us. We really need to hope they lose if we can win our first 2

[Joebob]

Now I've got to go find a correct bracket because at 6:00 PM ESPN showed us playing Utah State (I didn't get to watch the selection show). WTF?