Doux or die game thread

[MoreCowbell]

Gotta have it

[parabrave]

Well the announcers don't give us much a chance.

[parabrave]

Well got some street ball going on. thats bad street ball too.

[parabrave]

Good play by JB and Davis.

[KOdawg1]

Suffocating their ass on the defensive end

[StarkVegasSteve]

Defense has come to play today. Needs to keep that up with the way offense is looking at the moment.

[MoreCowbell]

Can we please rebound

[StarkVegasSteve]

Of course this will be the guy that careers it against us today. A pasty white guy.

[KOdawg1]

The regression of Tolu has been disappointing

[StarkVegasSteve]

Through 10 minutes: Tolu Smith- 0 pts

[MoreCowbell]

We are playing very tight we need to relax. Tolu is so soft.

[PMDawg]

Another half of useless Tolu.

[PMDawg]

Perhaps he'll have a good second half.

[RockyDog]

Tolu and Jones SUCK

[StarkVegasSteve]

Back to our recent defense…Crap. And we cannot get a shot to fall

[PMDawg]

We can't win a game when both Tolu and Cam suck.

[BankerDog]

We did better off with Smith coming off bench.

[MoreCowbell]

If I have to hear about 17n celery one more time gonna break this TV

[StarkVegasSteve]

We did better off with Smith coming off bench.

Yep. We were not having to play through Tolu. We need to go back to starting Bell and giving him 15-20 a game.

[MoreCowbell]

We suck

[GoDawgz]

There is zero game plan outside Hubbard.

[DawgFromOxford]

If we could box out the white guy that would be a good idea. I don't know just spit balling over here

[StarkVegasSteve]

I am actually glad I have to get back to work and do not have to watch the rest of this crap

[Bothrops]

We're just getting bullied all over the court.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Also does not help that Matthews is 0-4 from the FT line.

[Bothrops]

Also does not help that Matthews is 0-4 from the FT line.

That's just sad

[RockyDog]

Send clown Jans packing with the intramural baseball coach. 8-10 followed up by this performance with these players is bullcrap

[StarkVegasSteve]

Send clown Jans packing with the intramural baseball coach. 8-10 followed up by this performance with these players is bullcrap

Ok maybe step off the ledge. You do that and you end up with a Rick Ray type hire.

[StarkVegasSteve]

10 TOs for them and we are down 3. How is that even humanly possible?

[PMDawg]

Game. See ya'll for the NIT.

[Saltydog]

Gotta have it

Well let's look at the glass half full; we're gonna be a high seed in the NIT.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Game. See ya'll for the NIT.

Afraid so. Hubbard not hitting and no one else is even attempting to score.

[Bothrops]

Send clown Jans packing with the intramural baseball coach. 8-10 followed up by this performance with these players is bullcrap

He seems to want to hang his hat on below average players he thinks will adapt to his defense. Just think where we'd be without Hubbard this year.

[msstate7]

Tolu is either hurt or he's betting against us for the 4th straight game

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hubbard- 7/8 from the FT line.
Rest of the team- 0/5 from the FT line.

[RockyDog]

tolu is a walking turnover and couldn't dunk on a toddler rim. Good riddance to his sorry ass

[StarkVegasSteve]

This LSU team is HORRIBLE. And we are down 7

[Dawgology]

State has nothing besides Hubbard. If he’s off it’s a guaranteed loss. They are soft soft. Seems like Tolu may be on the take. He disappeares in games where there is big movement in bets.

[civildawg]

Jan's is a fraud. He can't win one freaking game down the stretch and now this is the game plan he has?

[MoreCowbell]

I am all for refs letting them play but this is ridiculous

[MoreCowbell]

Tolu is either hurt or he's betting against us for the 4th straight game

For real

[HoopsDawg]

0 FGs last 8 minutes. Wow

[GoDawgz]

Tolu plays like a monster against UK..... and absolutely disappears the rest of the year......
Body language says so much.....just watching them walk to the locker room...it looks like they have no interest in being there.

[KOdawg1]

I'm ready for Tolu to begin his career in Pakistan

[MoreCowbell]

LSU has 12 turnovers and we are down 7. Wow

[msugolf]

Jans is not the answer. Knew that when we hired him. He has never had good scoring teams or an offensive philosophy. Better get someone in here that likes to score and knows how to develop players

Go get Bucky McMillan from Samford

[MoreCowbell]

Getting out rebounded by 10

[HoopsDawg]

Jans has no counter. Keyshawn was huge in Baton Rouge. Or go 3 guards.

[KOdawg1]

Jans is not the answer. Knew that when we hired him. He has never had good scoring teams or an offensive philosophy. Better get someone in here that likes to score and knows how to develop players

Go get Bucky McMillan from Samford

We're 1 win away from making the tournament two years in a row.

I'm frustrated too, but this is a bad take.

[civildawg]

I don't care if we make the tournament again this year, Jan's has to change his offensive mindset. This was my fear when we hired him. He made that run at New Mexico with 1 elite scorer while everyone stood around and watched

[msstate7]

0 FGs last 8 minutes. Wow

1/10 from 3 for state
Rebounds +10 lsu
2:7 assists to TO ratio for state

Wow.

We have been a pretty bad team since DJ came back. I don't count him back bs Kentucky and Auburn (less than 15 mins). He played 30+ vs aTm and SC. Too many mins today

[parabrave]

We are lucky to only be down by 7. Heck just keep JB in at least he will put up a shot. They are not going to let Hub even try to get off a shot.

[msugolf]

We're 1 win away from making the tournament two years in a row.

I'm frustrated too, but this is a bad take.
Check back with me in 2-3 years if hes still here. His teams have always played this style. He only got away with it because he had defensive teams in conferences with little talent

[KOdawg1]

Check back with me in 2-3 years if hes still here. His teams have always played this style. He only got away with it because he had defensive teams in conferences with little talent

If he makes the tournament during those 2-3 years, then I don't care what style he plays with.

[NCMSTFAN]

Check back with me in 2-3 years if hes still here. His teams have always played this style. He only got away with it because he had defensive teams in conferences with little talent
Agree, I've always worried about this with Jans... his Offense and recruiting abilities scare me. Hope we can get it turned around in the 2nd

[msugolf]

I don't care if we make the tournament again this year, Jan's has to change his offensive mindset. This was my fear when we hired him. He made that run at New Mexico with 1 elite scorer while everyone stood around and watched

It?s almost like we did no research at all or had zero plan on what we were trying to accomplish as a basketball program. Just hired someone because he had one freakishly player in Terry Allen and upset Arkansas in the tournament.

If anyone watched that team then you would notice the same offense we have. Zero movement, poor shot selection, no identity

[dawg1]

Absolutely

[StarkVegasSteve]

I do not know if we can get to 50 points today. We might have to put up a historic defensive performance in the 2nd half to win this one.

[parabrave]

It?s almost like we did no research at all or had zero plan on what we were trying to accomplish as a basketball program. Just hired someone because he had one freakishly player in Terry Allen and upset Arkansas in the tournament.

If anyone watched that team then you would notice the same offense we have. Zero movement, poor shot selection, no identity

Talking about ball movement; thats all that Richard is talking about/ Good job by Davis and Cam to start picking up the slack

[msstate7]

Hubbard 1-8 shooting

[parabrave]

Dam we are getting stupid under the rim

[StarkVegasSteve]

You hear people talk all the time about winning plays. We make more losing plays than anyone in the country.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hubbard 1-8 shooting

In his defense if he does not shoot no one else will.

[RockyDog]

Tolu couldn't make a layup on a Little Tikes rim. Screw him

[R2Dawg]

Hubbard can't hit anything and Tolu 0fer again. Can't win that way.

[R2Dawg]

No excuse not to beat LSU they are not that good.

[Big4Dawg]

I've always said I love this team

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well….Hubbard came to 17 play.

[KOdawg1]

Keep your foot on their throat

[parabrave]

And Toulu shows up.

[parabrave]

great play by Toulu and Jones.

[parabrave]

And Shak shows up. He has had a good game.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And Shak shows up. He has had a good game.

Shak has had a nice game. We needed that. We consistently need one good bench performance. Whether that be Moore or Murphy, one of them has to have a nice game getting 8-12 points.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Keep your foot on their throat

We did not keep our foot on their throat.

[RockyDog]

Chokelu has just cost us a double digit lead.

[R2Dawg]

And the meltdown

[R2Dawg]

Chokelu has just cost us a double digit lead.

Does any other team get screwed by refs more than MSU?

[StarkVegasSteve]

Does any other team get screwed by refs more than MSU?

I really have not had too many complaints with the refs today. What call are you referring to?

[R2Dawg]

I really have not had too many complaints with the refs today. What call are you referring to?

Rockydog post about walk on LSU and they didn't call it and LSU got 2 pts.

I can't watch I'm stuck in a airport but listening to Neal Price and they said it was a walk.

[R2Dawg]

Hubbard when it matters

[R2Dawg]

Hubbard makes us so dangerous.

[R2Dawg]

Stupid Tolu

[R2Dawg]

Give ball to Hubbard and Davis for rest of game. They can hit FT; do that and we win.

[R2Dawg]

Make the FT and that is the game

[StarkVegasSteve]

Rockydog post about walk on LSU and they didn't call it and LSU got 2 pts.

I can't watch I'm stuck in a airport but listening to Neal Price and they said it was a walk.

Yea they did miss a pretty bad walk. Actually missed a definite one and a questionable one as well. Will not matter though.

[parabrave]

When Davis and TS started making their shots that opened things up for JH.

[R2Dawg]

Wrap it in Maroon and White and we just punched our ticket to the big dance.

[msstate7]

Good win. Try to win 10+

[KOdawg1]

Y'all still wanna fire Jans? LOL

[msstate7]

Just noticed that lunardi had us in last 4 in even with a loss. Thank God we didn't though

[R2Dawg]

Yea they did miss a pretty bad walk. Actually missed a definite one and a questionable one as well. Will not matter though.

Some key walk calls and blantant fouls against USC cost us that game. 3 plays I remember cost us 8 pts.

[GoDawgz]

Others will have to stand up and help going forward, Tolu specifically. If he can play up to his potential State could be a problem, if not, its the Hubbard show.

[msstate7]

Y'all still wanna fire Jans? LOL

Seems they woulda learned from my DA last year

[R2Dawg]

Just noticed that lunardi had us in last 4 in even with a loss. Thank God we didn't though

I want off the play in game. Hopefully this pushes us out of that.

[R2Dawg]

Others will have to stand up and help going forward, Tolu specifically. If he can play up to his potential State could be a problem, if not, its the Hubbard show.

If we can get back to form the way we were before the UK loss, we are a very tough out.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Wow. That stupid foul from us almost cost us the full win value and their equally stupid value gave it right back to us.

[basedog]

Very good pressure win. Big Dance is always welcomed. We played some good teams down the stretch, I don’t think some of you guys understand.

[Dawgology]

I never doubted**

[DawgFromOxford]

2nd half was way more fun than the 1st half. Good win. On to the next one

[StarkVegasSteve]

We are going to go as far Josh Hubbard takes us.

[Commercecomet24]

Great adjustments by Jans in the second half! A needed win and good to see the team battle from a couple of weeks of adversity and first half today. Just keep winning!

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We need to invest in Hubbard.

[Commercecomet24]

Very good pressure win. Big Dance is always welcomed. We played some good teams down the stretch, I don’t think some of you guys understand.

Bingo!

[NCMSTFAN]

Good to see Hubbard get some help in the 2nd half. We are going to need others to step up like they did in the 2nd half. On to the next!!

[State82]

Whew!!! What a big 'un!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Now I move to tomorrow where no work will get done after 12.

[basedog]

Jans>Howland. Way better floor Coach. Say what you want but he is a good fit for MSU.

[Commercecomet24]

Now I move to tomorrow where no work will get done after 12.

LOL, same here!

[Commercecomet24]

Jans>Howland. Way better floor Coach. Say what you want but he is a good fit for MSU.

100%! We need to keep him.

[CaptainObvious]

Good win for the Dawgs! Proud of the second half effort!

[Saltydog]

Proud of these guys today. They played well in the second half. Now, we're going to get our ass handed to us against UT but we did what we had to do today.

[parabrave]

Listening to the postgame and that's the 1st time I have heard Black Sabbath by the band.

[CaptainObvious]

State now 15-3 overall this season when holding opponents under 70. The 2 non-con losses were Ga. Tech and Southern U.

Only 1 of those losses was in SEC play. Keep UT in the low 60's and State will be in the SEC semis. Simple formula!

[StarkVegasSteve]

You could not have convinced me we were going to score 50 at half, much less 70. Much better approach in the 2nd half by the staff to let Hubbard be the primary ball handler and create shots and assists. I thought it opened up his set shots at the end of the game.

[tcdog70]

Proud of these guys today. They played well in the second half. Now, we're going to get our ass handed to us against UT but we did what we had to do today.

Your cup always half empty..

[Homedawg]

Seems they woulda learned from my DA last year

Hahahah. So true

[Turfdawg67]

tolu is a walking turnover and couldn't dunk on a toddler rim. Good riddance to his sorry ass

Wish this was your last year as a fan... good riddance.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Wish this was your last year as a fan... good riddance.

Tolu definitely has played poorly the last 5 games. He is going to have to step it up big time. I really thought when we took the emphasis off of playing through him in the 2nd half he played better and we played better. He still missed some bunnies though and that needs to be cleaned up.

[MoreCowbell]

Came back and did our thing, big win. Should be in now. Love that it was basically a tourney game to go ahead and get us in mindset.

[Turfdawg67]

Tolu definitely has played poorly the last 5 games. He is going to have to step it up big time. I really thought when we took the emphasis off of playing through him in the 2nd half he played better and we played better. He still missed some bunnies though and that needs to be cleaned up.

Agreed. But there's hope for Tolu... there's zero hope for Rocky

[Ranchdawg]

I hope he isn?t lying. But during our LSUx game I think I heard ESPN?s commentator Marty Smith say that he talked to Josh Hubbard before the game about others finding out about him. Marty asked if Josh was considering leaving State. According to Marty Josh stated he loved MSU loved Jan?s loved Jan?s because he is winner and that feels at home at State.

I?m well aware talk is cheap and money talks louder but sure sounded like he likes playing at State and playing for Jan?s.

[basedog]

I’d be surprised if Hubbard walked away from MSU. Moving forward it’s his team next year, he also will be paid. Seems his parents are all in with him at MSU. Jans is a players Coach, he knows how and when toget on their tails, but he also cares about them and I’ve never heard him throw a player under the bus.

[StarkVegasSteve]

His representation has let it be known what it will take to keep. We are well aware of what needs to be done to keep him.

[KOdawg1]

Hubbard ain't going no where.

Our basketball network is organized and won't let that happen

[99jc]

His representation has let it be known what it will take to keep. We are well aware of what needs to be done to keep him.

well what is it...why the big secret

[TALL DAWG]

Marty Smith or any annoucer for that matter should not be asking a player at any school if he is thinking of leaving.
#unprofessional

[RocketDawg]

Had to record the game and just finished watching. Very nice second half. I guess they realized that this was our sort of 'play in' game.

[StarkVegasSteve]

well what is it...why the big secret

Because it is the same number of figures he is making now, just a higher amount.

[Saltydog]

Yeah, he didn't ask him if he was going pro. He asked him if he was leaving. Big difference. I'd rather have a root canal than listen to him and McGee.