Basketball support vs Baseball support

[MaroonFlounder]

I get it. Basketball is more profitable and provides more cache when winning.

You guys gushed about Chris Jans. I just don't see it. But he may be the best we can do.

Wake me up when we get to the 2nd weekend in the tourney. It's been 28 years since the last sweet 16.

Baseball has a natty. I don't see it ever happening in any other team sport.

Fire away.

[HoopsDawg]

It's not a competition. It's a preference.

[DownwardDawg]

It's not a competition. It's a preference.

Agreed. It's all about preference. But baseball will always be king at MSU. That is an absolute fact whether you like it or not. Football is my favorite sport. But I understand that baseball is number one at State.

[KOdawg1]

I don't see the purpose of starting a whole new thread for this. Literally NO ONE has said basketball is more successful than baseball. NO ONE is saying to support one more than the other.

Why can't we just fully support both without all the silliness?

This place is turning into Genes Page 2.0

[Maroonthirteen]

It's not a competition. It's a preference.

Yep. The GTR has always been a baseball area. Sec football and baseball. Basketball in general has always been an afterthought.

Remind me, wasn't the hump basically empty most of the 90-91 basketball season until lsu came to town that year? That's what I recall but I could be confusing my years.

[BrunswickDawg]

I get it. Basketball is more profitable and provides more cache when winning.

You guys gushed about Chris Jans. I just don't see it. But he may be the best we can do.

Wake me up when we get to the 2nd weekend in the tourney. It's been 28 years since the last sweet 16.

Baseball has a natty. I don't see it ever happening in any other team sport.

Fire away.

Why is this an either/or proposition? Support ALL MSU teams.
The reality is that in Football and Basketball it takes a generational talent, and the stars aligning with the right coach and the right players and some dumb luck for us just to contend. That's the way it has been and likely always will be. But, we should support them because they are our teams. Getting a Natty is possible in other sports. Baseball proved that - and baseball has interest and the support because they have been the only consistent winner on campus since sports began. And while they may not be the Big 3 - our non-rev sports are probably in the best shape overall they have ever been - Top 15 Men's Tennis, SEC Champion level Ladies Golf, NCAA Tourney Soccer, NCAA Tourney Men's Golf, Consistent NCAA Finals Track & Field (numerous individual Champs), Softball consistent NCAA tourney team. Why not just enjoy supporting our school?

[KOdawg1]

Why is this an either/or proposition? Support ALL MSU teams.


THIS.

People get so threatened by other sports possibly taking the spotlight. No one is taking baseball's thunder. It's okay for people to be excited about basketball, softball, and other sports.

It's also okay for people to care more about baseball. But putting down the other sports while doing it is silly

[Pancho]

amen

[Commercecomet24]

Why is this an either/or proposition? Support ALL MSU teams.
The reality is that in Football and Basketball it takes a generational talent, and the stars aligning with the right coach and the right players and some dumb luck for us just to contend. That's the way it has been and likely always will be. But, we should support them because they are our teams. Getting a Natty is possible in other sports. Baseball proved that - and baseball has interest and the support because they have been the only consistent winner on campus since sports began. And while they may not be the Big 3 - our non-rev sports are probably in the best shape overall they have ever been - Top 15 Men's Tennis, SEC Champion level Ladies Golf, NCAA Tourney Soccer, NCAA Tourney Men's Golf, Consistent NCAA Finals Track & Field (numerous individual Champs), Softball consistent NCAA tourney team. Why not just enjoy supporting our school?

Great post and I agree 100%! Have some REP!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BrunswickDawg again.

[PMDawg]

Agreed. It's all about preference. But baseball will always be king at MSU. That is an absolute fact whether you like it or not. Football is my favorite sport. But I understand that baseball is number one at State.

Not this garbage again.

[CaptainObvious]

Wow! ALL YALL missed his point.

There have been multiple poster say take money away from baseball and give it to the income producing sports. The OP is just saying stop it. Each sport needs the financial support and he understands some Will favor basketball and football because they just don't like baseball and so because it is too damn cold north of the Mason Dixon line for schools up there to take baseball serious, WE as a whole Fanbase should quit focusing on baseball and spend all our funds and loyalty on men's basketball and football.

I hope they understand that the northern schools fans would CUT you if you tried to deemphasize Hockey and Lacrosse!

[confucius say]

Weird thread. Baseball is my favorite sport, but the part of our fanbase that is obnoxious about baseball and puts down other sports is irritating. I support them all equally.

[confucius say]

Wow! ALL YALL missed his point.

There have been multiple poster say take money away from baseball and give it to the income producing sports. The OP is just saying stop it. Each sport needs the financial support and he understands some Will favor basketball and football because they just don't like baseball and so because it is too damn cold north of the Mason Dixon line for schools up there to take baseball serious, WE as a whole Fanbase should quit focusing on baseball and spend all our funds and loyalty on men's basketball and football.

I hope they understand that the northern schools fans would CUT you if you tried to deemphasize Hockey and Lacrosse!

That may be what he meant, but that's not what he said. He didn't even qualify the word "support" as meaning financial support. Nor did he say anything about reallocating funds to certain sports.

[BrunswickDawg]

Wow! ALL YALL missed his point.

There have been multiple poster say take money away from baseball and give it to the income producing sports. The OP is just saying stop it. Each sport needs the financial support and he understands some Will favor basketball and football because they just don't like baseball and so because it is too damn cold north of the Mason Dixon line for schools up there to take baseball serious, WE as a whole Fanbase should quit focusing on baseball and spend all our funds and loyalty on men's basketball and football.

I hope they understand that the northern schools fans would CUT you if you tried to deemphasize Hockey and Lacrosse!

No, I didn't miss his point I've seen the threads about this. Whether it is "ra-ra" support, or booster support, or NIL, or Athletic Department funding support, we need to get as many resources to each sport as possible to be competitive. Saying things like "cut baseball and give to basketball" is incredibly short-sighted and is what LT would do. We are in a "yes, and..." situation with sports. Our goal should be to actively increase funding for all.

[gtowndawg]

Just my opinion, but in our house and family it goes like this.

Football
Basketball
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Baseball

We've never even been to the new Dudy Noble.

[CaptainObvious]

I guess I did over read between the lines.

Let's all acknowledge thst Our leaders are NOT going to stop financially supporting baseball nor are our fans just because a few people on a message board think it is a waste of money, when Both entities have been spending copious amounts of money in a bigger fashion on certain sports that have absolutely no chance of ever winning a SEC championship let alone a NC as long as the playing field is unlevel financially. State needs to win something in those sports before certain fans bellyache about how much is spent on the one sport State has a Real Championship in.

[CaptainObvious]

Just my opinion, but in our house and family it goes like this.

Football
Basketball
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Baseball

We've never even been to the new Dudy Noble.

In OUR house it is:

Football =Baseball =Men's Basketball = Women's Basketball.

Then the others fell in line with Softball first and everything else.

[BrunswickDawg]

In OUR house it is:

Football =Baseball =Men's Basketball = Women's Basketball.

Then the others fell in line with Softball first and everything else.

Everyone is different -

Baseball is a family passion across generations - well before I became a State fan. My summers were narrated by Skip Caray, Pete Van Wieren, and Ernie Johnson (and later Don Sutton).
Watching the CWS in the 80s is how I even knew State existed.

Football is a close second. With streaming allowing so much access now, almost any televised MSU sport is on if it's streamed - soccer, softball, women's basketball
I've even gone out to Sea Island a couple of times for the SEC Men's Golf Championship because its 8 miles from my house.

[Todd4State]

Amen to Brunswick's post.

And baseball will be revue producing when the seat licenses expire in a few years but the basketball people aren't talking about that.

[MaroonFlounder]

I just get the sense that many believe that there should be little to no money or resources going toward baseball, even though that is the sport with the highest ceiling for success. Latest results notwithstanding.

[KOdawg1]

Amen to Brunswick's post.

And baseball will be revue producing when the seat licenses expire in a few years but the basketball people aren't talking about that.

There are very few "basketball people." There are however people who don't worship baseball because it's baseball and that's who you're referring to. I've seen you reference this several times now and it's not correct

[Todd4State]

There are very few "basketball people." There are however people who don't worship baseball because it's baseball and that's who you're referring to. I've seen you reference this several times now and it's not correct

I'm talking about the people that bitch about the baseball program getting money and the basketball program not getting enough and therefore the solution is to cut off funding to MSU baseball and say fans are stupid for going to and supporting baseball.

That's an athletic department issue. Not a MSU baseball issue.

[KOdawg1]

I'm talking about the people that bitch about the baseball program getting money and the basketball program not getting enough and therefore the solution is to cut off funding to MSU baseball and say fans are stupid for going to and supporting baseball.

That's an athletic department issue. Not a MSU baseball issue.

That's a very small portion of the fanbase though.

[confucius say]

There are very few "basketball people." There are however people who don't worship baseball because it's baseball and that's who you're referring to. I've seen you reference this several times now and it's not correct

Yea but basketball has the most NIL funding per player of any sport on campus. The basketball-first people we have spend money.

[BrunswickDawg]

Yea but basketball has the most NIL funding per player of any sport on campus. The basketball-first people we have spend money.

That's also a numbers game - it's a lot easier to spread money over 15 players then over 35 or 85. And yes, basketball was always in the "helpin" business and had deep pocket funders.
I think some of the push back about baseball funding is purely about facilities. People look at The Dude and say "why can't the Hump be that good?".

[Todd4State]

That's a very small portion of the fanbase though.

But vocal. Vocal enough to get MSU sports personalities to agree with them.

That's dangerous and not good for MSU athletics. It's the same group think that got Arnett our head coaching job.

[confucius say]

That's also a numbers game - it's a lot easier to spread money over 15 players then over 35 or 85. And yes, basketball was always in the "helpin" business and had deep pocket funders.
I think some of the push back about baseball funding is purely about facilities. People look at The Dude and say "why can't the Hump be that good?".

That first sentence is true. But it's not just numbers. We spent almost as much on one basketball player as we did the entire 2023 football roster. Not the case anymore with the 2024 football roster, but still.

[KOdawg1]

But vocal. Vocal enough to get MSU sports personalities to agree with them.

That's dangerous and not good for MSU athletics. It's the same group think that got Arnett our head coaching job.

Lol no.

[CaptainObvious]

Lol no.

Here is an example of what Todd is talking about.

More than likely hates baseball for a couple of reasons.

[KOdawg1]

Here is an example of what Todd is talking about.

More than likely hates baseball for a couple of reasons.
Me? Well if you can read, you've seen that I've said I love baseball. I don't worship it and put it above all the other sports though.

You assumed and were incorrect.

[Reunion Dog]

Hell no. They were all Seniors. The Hump ROCKED back then? They won the damn SEC.

[NCMSTFAN]

I don't see the purpose of starting a whole new thread for this. Literally NO ONE has said basketball is more successful than baseball. NO ONE is saying to support one more than the other.

Why can't we just fully support both without all the silliness?

This place is turning into Genes Page 2.0

I agree 100%.... why are we comparing our own teams?

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Dan Mullen and Football built the New Dude.Football pays for everything.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Dan Mullen and Football built the New Dude.Football pays for everything.

Starkville is now the town that Dan and Dak built. All this expansion with new stadiums, upgrades, new bars, new restaurants, and condos….none of that happens without those two.