Roosters game 2

[parabrave]

Need a total team effort today. Can't depend on Hubbard to carry the load.

[parabrave]

Good job by Cam to get his own RB and put back/

[StarkVegasSteve]

Can we just sit Tolu down if he is going to play scared? At least Bell will fight.

[parabrave]

Can we just sit Tolu down if he is going to play scared? At least Bell will fight.

I guess he will show up in the 2nd half again. Hell at least put Cam down low he will defend.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I guess he will show up in the 2nd half again. Hell at least put Cam down low he will defend.

Correct. He provides nothing offensively other than fight and scrap.

[Saltydog]

Right now they are just too physical for us......Tolu, SMH....

[parabrave]

Well hopefully that gets Hub going. He is going to have to learn to play when they harass him. Dam TS just Ole' them to the basket/

[parabrave]

Good play vy Bell

[parabrave]

Good play vy Bell

Not a bad foul by Jones. Need to establish the Low Def.

[msstate7]

For once in our history, I wish the sec would give us home court advantage with calls. That would be a traveling or tie ball 100/100 if that were us

[StarkVegasSteve]

Murphy needs to be gone this offseason. He does not even attempt to try on the defensive end.

[msstate7]

Going back to Wednesday, Hubbard is 1 of his last 10 shooting.

[msstate7]

Travel, again

[StarkVegasSteve]

They have now missed 4, by my count, travels on them.

[parabrave]

Dam even Neal calls out the refs.

[msstate7]

Ok, we got a call. That was Bs

[msstate7]

For once in our history, I wish the sec would give us home court advantage with calls. That would be a traveling or tie ball 100/100 if that were us

Ok, did the refs read this?

[StarkVegasSteve]

These refs know they have called this one sided so they are trying to even it out now.

[parabrave]

Wow they are starting to call the muggings.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Tolu needs to wake up. Matthews is making second and third efforts on both ends and Tolu will not even make first efforts.

[msstate7]

Jans needs to call a TO and dog cuss this team. Get the damn rebounds!

[Saltydog]

Tulu Smith is the most overrated player in school history.

[msstate7]

Big foul

[StarkVegasSteve]

Tulu Smith is the most overrated player in school history.

Hubbard has as many rebounds as Tolu through 12 minutes.

[parabrave]

Going back to Wednesday, Hubbard is 1 of his last 10 shooting.

Well we need him or Davis and Moore to get the Perimeter shooting going.

[msstate7]

Well we need him or Davis and Moore to get the Perimeter shooting going.

Yeah, I'm concerned about it. Shak is terrified to shoot from 3, Davis isn't good at it, and Hubbard is ice cold

[msstate7]

Boy, **** these refs

[parabrave]

Nice to see Davis get involved.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Cam is playing like a wild man today.

[parabrave]

Yeah, I'm concerned about it. Shak is terrified to shoot from 3, Davis isn't good at it, and Hubbard is ice cold

Davis is our Hottest 3 PTer the last 3 games.

[parabrave]

Dam do these guys call traveling/

[StarkVegasSteve]

Hubbard has to take a charge right there.

[msstate7]

These refs call every out of bounds off us. Every one

[msstate7]

Hubbard has to take a charge right there.

Yeah, he was moving. Not sure what Jans is mad about

[HoopsDawg]

Hubbard has to take a charge right there.

He wussed out

[msstate7]

Why won't jans use shak, Davis, and Hubbard together any? We have no shooter for the 3 so go small some with cam and tolu as the bigs?

[MoreCowbell]

Time/score? Not able to watch

[msstate7]

Our def rebounding is gonna be our ticket to the NIT

[msstate7]

Josh, we have to have you from the perimeter

[parabrave]

Davis is showing up.

[parabrave]

Time/score? Not able to watch

33-30 them 2 mins

[HoopsDawg]

Come on Tolu!!

[msstate7]

Tolu has to get that third foul on Gary

[Saltydog]

They just had 6 straight shots on their end of the court.......

[msstate7]

Come on Tolu!!

Gray too strong for him

[parabrave]

Time/score? Not able to watch

Hailstate.com/ Hopefulluy you can figure out the new page.

[parabrave]

Big 3 by Josh.

[parabrave]

38-37 them at half.

[msstate7]

How is the DJ play a foul but not running over jones at midcourt?

[Quaoarsking]

Down 2 at the half despite not really playing that well. If we get back to our normal selves, we ought to win.

[msstate7]

We have to drive at gray to start the 2nd half. Get him out of the game

[msstate7]

If we clean up the def rebounding, we should win.

[parabrave]

Well when Jans sat TS I guess that woke them up because they have been a total different team.

[msstate7]

SC is what we would be with good perimeter shooting

[parabrave]

If we clean up the def rebounding, we should win.

And make the easy shots we missed at the beginning of the game

[LC Dawg]

The announcers agreed with the call but I don't understand how DJ is called for that foul when they both were moving.

[StarkVegasSteve]

That Jones play that gave us an extra possession is the type of plays that could be paramount at the end of the day.

[parabrave]

Wow Richard just called our Toulu.

[parabrave]

It's okay for the rest of the team to help out Cam and Hub.

[msstate7]

They just won't miss

[HoopsDawg]

Wow Richard just called our Toulu.

what did he say, no defense? no hustle.

[msstate7]

DJ getting his most mins in a while. Not sure it's a good thing

[msstate7]

We can't defend these guys. They either nail 3s or drive right by us. The only reason they don't have 70 pts is their pace

[parabrave]

what did he say, no defense? no hustle.

To show up.

[msstate7]

Big play, Davis

[parabrave]

Hey TS makes a basket, Hopefuly that gets him going.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We do not look like we give a flying 17. You think a team playing for their tournament fate would play with a tad bit of urgency.

[parabrave]

Good by Hubb.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I should have clarified, Matthews and Hubbard in stretches look like they care.

[parabrave]

We do not look like we give a flying 17. You think a team playing for their tournament fate would play with a tad bit of urgency.

Got 3 players playing tough. Hub Cam and Dj on Def. Just get Shak out and let Davis play the rest. And thats a flagrant foul.

[msstate7]

They get a layup every time they want it

[StarkVegasSteve]

They get a layup every time they want it

When they have zero fear of your post player then that happens.

[parabrave]

I should have clarified, Matthews and Hubbard in stretches look like they care.

Meanwhile SC had all their players hanging tough.

[Saltydog]

Their big guys are skilled. Our big guys are big. We've missed no telling how many easy shots today.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Got 3 players playing tough. Hub Cam and Dj on Def. Just get Shak out and let Davis play the rest. And thats a flagrant foul.

Yep. We need to roll with Hubb, Davis, Jeffries, Matthews, and Bell to close. Moore is scared shitless and Tolu is softer than baby shit.

[msstate7]

When they have zero fear of your post player then that happens.

Looks like it's our guards that are the problem. They're going right by em

[parabrave]

Why is Moore still in??

[StarkVegasSteve]

We just DO NOT make winning plays. That is all it boils down to.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why is Moore still in??

My only guess is we were trying to survive to the under 8 and then go to Davis.

[msstate7]

DJ, stop

[RocketDawg]

SC has some really good shooters.

[HoopsDawg]

Horrible lineup by Jans with Jones and DJ on court together. Leads to a SC run.

[parabrave]

I would cuss DJ about that 3 attempt but its who he is.

[msstate7]

Just sick watching this. Kentucky broke us

[msugolf]

Welp NIT

[HoopsDawg]

What are we doing Jans?!

[parabrave]

Wow they call a travel/

[StarkVegasSteve]

Just sick watching this. Kentucky broke us

I tried to tell to you that my friend. You could see it. And knowing we did not have a cupcake to get right you could see the snowball that was coming. It was not trying to be negative.

[parabrave]

Let Hub shoot the ball/ Heck lets just play Laker Ball.

[HoopsDawg]

Playing DJ waaay too much

[StarkVegasSteve]

Let Hub shoot the ball/ Heck lets just play Laker Ball.

Hell I would argue doing that Wednesday night cost us the ballgame. We just have to lock down defensively.

[Saltydog]

The only person surprised is you 7......

[msstate7]

I tried to tell to you that my friend. You could see it. And knowing we did not have a cupcake to get right you could see the snowball that was coming. It was not trying to be negative.

How could you see it that night? This is a senior laden team, so it shouldn't be true. If they lose today, Jans should take heat. Not fire him heat, but it's on him

[msstate7]

Playing DJ waaay too much

I've questioned it too. Senior night or not, we have to win

[msstate7]

I'm fine with most Hubbard shots, but F that one

[StarkVegasSteve]

How could you see it that night? This is a senior laden team, so it shouldn't be true. If they lose today, Jans should take heat. Not fire him heat, but it's on him

Because I have watched basketball, at all levels, very closely for 20+ years. When you put everything into a game, like we did with Kentucky, and then lose at the buzzer it kills you. It takes teams weeks to rebound, if they ever do. All the experience in the world does not prepare you for that.

[msstate7]

Gray shoving tolu

[msstate7]

Because I have watched basketball, at all levels, very closely for 20+ years. When you put everything into a game, like we did with Kentucky, and then lose at the buzzer it kills you. It takes teams weeks to rebound, if they ever do. All the experience in the world does not prepare you for that.

SC lost a game just like that Tuesday night, and yet, here they are

[parabrave]

Dam good shot by Davis.

[StarkVegasSteve]

SC lost a game just like that Tuesday night, and yet, here they are

They did not get beat at the buzzer.

[msstate7]

That's the shot I want Josh

[parabrave]

And Hub whoosh.

[parabrave]

Get Moore out

[DownwardDawg]

The only person surprised is you 7......

I mildly keep up with basketball up until this time of year, hoping we'll make the tourney, but this post is spot on. We are NOT a basketball school. If we make the tournament it's like a miracle. Never expect it as a State fan. And we ain't beating Kentucky ever. Like beating Bama in football.

[msstate7]

I don't want tolu here. I want a cam drive for a layup or lockout to Hubbard

[parabrave]

At least DJ has a better D and a better chance of making a shot than Shak/

[StarkVegasSteve]

137 seconds for the tournament.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I don't want tolu here. I want a cam drive for a layup or lockout to Hubbard

Agreed. Or Davis.

[DownwardDawg]

We suck at basketball. No chance we win. ***

[parabrave]

They are not going to let us shoot inside. Hub and Davis are going to have to win this.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ballgame.

[msstate7]

Can we get jones in? DJ can't defend that guy

[HoopsDawg]

Tied it up. Why did we put DJ back in?

[parabrave]

and DJ finally makes a 3.

[msstate7]

It went it. Still hate it

[parabrave]

Tied it up. Why did we put DJ back in?

Defense

[msstate7]

Defense

His man keeps scoring

[StarkVegasSteve]

Of course Tolu does not block out.

[msstate7]

Jans gonna force feed tolu or set up a dj 3? Shoot me

[StarkVegasSteve]

Ball will go to Tolu.

[parabrave]

Dam

[msstate7]

A 3!!!! This announcer is drunk

[StarkVegasSteve]

That was genius from Hubb. And a stroke of luck that the refs did not notice the shot clock had not started.

[msstate7]

I'd take Hubbard out here. Call TO if we get rebound

[parabrave]

GCammit

[parabrave]

call a TO. Just let Davis or Hub take it.

[msstate7]

After our basket, immediately make sure time is right. After that foul, no review

[StarkVegasSteve]

Just let Hubbard go and let the chips fall where they may.

[parabrave]

Come on Jimmy

[msstate7]

Just let Hubbard go and let the chips fall where they may.

I don't think he can beat them upcourt. We don't have a guard like that

[parabrave]

Big foul. Good one by Davis

[msstate7]

This is a new gut wrenching way to lose a game

[msstate7]

Do we have a great foul shooter on bench? Play hirt, Davis

[MaroonFlounder]

We suck on senior day. Every sport.

[StarkVegasSteve]

This is a new gut wrenching way to lose a game

Yep.

[Quaoarsking]

icewater in his veins!

[parabrave]

Big nutter by DD.

[msstate7]

Clutch FTs

[StarkVegasSteve]

I would have bet a large sum of money he would not make both.

[RocketDawg]

Davis was cool under pressure. Tied game.

[RocketDawg]

OT

[StarkVegasSteve]

Today is the day. Mississippi State is actually going to give me a heart attack today.

[State82]

New life boys.

[msstate7]

IF, IF, IF we can win this game, it could be the catalyst to get us going in postseason

[msstate7]

Stop leaving their shooters

[msstate7]

Unbelievable

[StarkVegasSteve]

GET TOLU OFF THE FLOOR.

[msstate7]

They're destroying our defense

[Saltydog]

That in bounds score by them is indicative of a low IQ team. There's one second. The one thing you can't do is let them catch the pass right under the bucket. What do we do? We let them score right in under the bucket.

[parabrave]

Wow we ran a good screen. We are going to have to make a Def play to winn

[HoopsDawg]

Unreal defensive breakdowns. Unreal

[msstate7]

Haven't got a stop in OT

[HoopsDawg]

QUIT HELPING OFF OF SHOOTERS

[msstate7]

Can we get 2 stops in a row?

[msstate7]

QUIT HELPING OFF OF SHOOTERS

Can't give up 2. Let's give up 3!!!!

[HoopsDawg]

Stop leaving their shooters

We are trading 2's for 3s. Sometimes we double for no reason.

[MoreCowbell]

I have $750 on us over 19.5 wins this season. My heart cannot take this.

[msstate7]

Tolu, I love you, but right now, I'm ready to see you go

[parabrave]

Now we need JH to make a big one,

[MoreCowbell]

Tolu is soft as baby shit

[StarkVegasSteve]

That was probably it.

[msstate7]

I have $750 on us over 19.5 wins this season. My heart cannot take this.

Sorry

[msstate7]

Just let Hubbard take a 3 under 5 seconds

[StarkVegasSteve]

Just let Hubbard take a 3 under 5 seconds

If you cannot get a quick 2 then yes. They are still in the one and one so if you could get a quick 2 maybe they miss the front end of a one and one.

[msstate7]

11.6 left. Way too much time.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I am going to yak.

[msstate7]

Reed Shepard last time
Who this time?

[Quaoarsking]

UGGGGGGGGGGGGGH

[msstate7]

That may even be better. There's no chance they were missing

[StarkVegasSteve]

For the love of god, block out.

[StarkVegasSteve]

We need to be ready for the foul if he makes.

[msstate7]

He will make it. Set up a josh or Davis 3. They will foul though prob

[StarkVegasSteve]

That may even be better. There's no chance they were missing

You were going on the premise that they might miss either of the FTs.

[RocketDawg]

Need to make the 3 now.

[msstate7]

You were going on the premise that they might miss either of the FTs.

No, we have a shot now. They were making a layup with 1 second left

[Quaoarsking]

Why did we even have Jeffries out on the court to get fouled?

[parabrave]

Why did DJ have the ball???? Need a shooter to handle it.

[Saltydog]

They're just better than we are. That's all there is to it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

No, we have a shot now. They were making a layup with 1 second left

Did you forget how shit of a FT shooting team we are?

[msstate7]

The fact jans let Dj bring it up knowing they'd foul makes me think Jans has a 75 IQ

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well it was fun. NIT bound.

[RocketDawg]

That's it.

[Quaoarsking]

Absolutely brutal.

[msstate7]

I've took up for this team nonstop, but they can get herpes now for all I care. F em

[StarkVegasSteve]

Damn should have made that ban bet.

[msstate7]

Well it was fun. NIT bound.

They'll probably get a play in game, but they'll lose. They can't win when they have to.

[HoopsDawg]

Poor execution. Give up a layup under the basket on an inbounds with 1 second on the shot clock. That sums up our IQ.

Then we foul their best free throw shooter.

We helped all game and left shooters and cutters.

May be headed to a play in game or NIT.

[civildawg]

I'm still not convinced Jan's is a good coach

[maroonmania]

We lost that game in OT simply because they can make FTs and we can't. Sick of giving away so many points at the FT line.

[StarkVegasSteve]

They'll probably get a play in game, but they'll lose. They can't win when they have to.

Nope A&M will make a run and steal the bid. We are going to the NIT

[msstate7]

Poor execution. Give up a layup under the basket on an inbounds with 1 second on the shot clock. That sums up our IQ.

Then we foul their best free throw shooter.

We helped all game and left shooters and cutters.

May be headed to a play in game or NIT.

Jans letting DJ bring the ball up when everyone knew a foul was coming explains the lack of IQ on the team

[CJDAWG85]

Epic collapse? just epic

[msstate7]

Who we play in tourney?

[msugolf]

I'm still not convinced Jan's is a good coach

Jury is still out for sure. More than likely hes just average and a below average recruiter

[StarkVegasSteve]

Epic collapse? just epic

I tried to tell everyone it was coming when Kentucky beat us at the buzzer. You could see what we had ahead and should have known we were not beating any of these 3 teams. But I was told I was drunk. We had plenty of chances this year to leave no doubt(@USCe, Bama, @OM, UK, @A&M, and today). We just do not have a killer instinct. The other team has to play historically bad and then make a mistake in the end.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who we play in tourney?

LSU and IF, a big if, we win we would get Tennessee, who will beat us by 60.

[MoreCowbell]

Inexcusable at 19-8 and 8-6 in conference to lose 4 straight to end the season. At this point I have zero confidence in us beating any team with a pulse in the postseason.

We might sneak in only because we will get the benefit of the doubt because we made it last year with the same team basically.

[maroonmania]

Jans letting DJ bring the ball up when everyone knew a foul was coming explains the lack of IQ on the team

Yep, once DJ went to the FT line I knew it was over.

[MoreCowbell]

Jans letting DJ bring the ball up when everyone knew a foul was coming explains the lack of IQ on the team

Yeah that was moronic

[parabrave]

Well crap.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Inexcusable at 19-8 and 8-6 in conference to lose 4 straight to end the season. At this point I have zero confidence in us beating any team with a pulse in the postseason.

We might sneak in only because we will get the benefit of the doubt because we made it last year with the same team basically.

I would just prefer to be done and rid ourselves of this team. Bring back Hubbard and maybe Matthews. The rest, they can find the pavement.

[Saltydog]

The fact jans let Dj bring it up knowing they'd foul makes me think Jans has a 75 IQ

Two weeks ago you called him a beast. Now he's got a low IQ.

[msstate7]

Two weeks ago you called him a beast. Now he's got a low IQ.

I still like em. I still want him here. I don't think coaches are a scholarly group

[msstate7]

I would just prefer to be done and rid ourselves of this team. Bring back Hubbard and maybe Matthews. The rest, they can find the pavement.
We will be a better team with the move to Hubbard as the focal point rather than a post player. Jans needs to spend a whole lot of time watching what AK did with Henderson and moody. That's what we need next season

[StarkVegasSteve]

We will be a better team with the move to Hubbard as the focal point rather than a post player. Jans needs to spend a whole lot of time watching what AK did with Henderson and moody. That's what we need next season

I doubt Hubbard will be here. He will be very highly sought after and I would not anchor myself to a coach who refuses to recruit 3 point shooters or recruits crappy ones.

[Saltydog]

I told some of you two weeks ago that we weren't one bit better than last year and I need to apologize.

Not only are we not one bit better, we're actually worse.

Some you were ready to crown Jans the GOAT two weeks ago. Hell, he's under performed with the whole team back and the possible SEC freshman of the year.

Ahh but such is the life of a MSU fan.

[msstate7]

I doubt Hubbard will be here. He will be very highly sought after and I would not anchor myself to a coach who refuses to recruit 3 point shooters or recruits crappy ones.

He's a Mississippi kid, so I think we keep em. Tolu's money will go to him, and he knows it will be his team. I'll be surprised if we lose Hubbard unless we lose Jans, who probably just blew that for himself

[msstate7]

I told some of you two weeks ago that we weren't one bit better than last year and I need to apologize.

Not only are we not one bit better, we're actually worse.

Some you were ready to crown Jans the GOAT two weeks ago. Hell, he's under performed with the whole team back and the possible SEC freshman of the year.





Wanna talk about a shitty job.

You're operating on the premise that the other sec teams are the same, and they aren't. The conference is the best it's been in a long time. We absolutely blew it down the stretch, but we'd beat our team from last year.

[basedog]

Hubbard will be back.

[msugolf]

He's a Mississippi kid, so I think we keep em. Tolu's money will go to him, and he knows it will be his team. I'll be surprised if we lose Hubbard unless we lose Jans, who probably just blew that for himself

Rumor is Hubbard is shopping his services. And that comes from a former player

[StarkVegasSteve]

He's a Mississippi kid, so I think we keep em. Tolu's money will go to him, and he knows it will be his team. I'll be surprised if we lose Hubbard unless we lose Jans, who probably just blew that for himself

I would not care if we lost Jans at this point tbh. We are not any different under him than we were Howland. It is the same thing, we cannot win a meaningful game from February on. Same thing the last 3 years of Stans too.

[msstate7]

Rumor is Hubbard is shopping his services. And that comes from a former player

He should, but we will pony up

[Extendedcab]

I still like em. I still want him here. I don't think coaches are a scholarly group

I hope you just didn’t figure this out!

[StarkVegasSteve]

Rumor is Hubbard is shopping his services. And that comes from a former player

He is. His representation is not stupid. They know he needs to get all he can now because he does not have much of an NBA future.

[msstate7]

I would not care if we lost Jans at this point tbh. We are not any different under him than we were Howland. It is the same thing, we cannot win a meaningful game from February on. Same thing the last 3 years of Stans too.

Wanna know why? Look in the mirror (as I do too).... we can't come up with the money for 3-4 pieces like the big sec schools. We can get (and keep) maybe 2 really targeted guys, but that's it. We're poor

[msstate7]

He is. His representation is not stupid. They know he needs to get all he can now because he does not have much of an NBA future.

And we will use a ton of NiL money to keep him, but bc we do this, we won't be able to become a real contender unless some unheralded freshmen are great

[StarkVegasSteve]

And we will use a ton of NiL money to keep him, but bc we do this, we won't be able to become a real contender unless some unheralded freshmen are great

Correct. Because we have a certain sect of our fanbase that dictates their NIL contributions ONLY go to baseball so they can brag at their grills while our teeth are kicked in by [insert SEC team]

[msugolf]

I hope you just didn’t figure this out!

Let me rephrase it for the special folks. The Hubbard crew has made it known to the State coaches that certain requirements need to be made in how the team operates going forward to benefit their brand.

So no I just didnt figure it out. NIL was always a known. Causing disruption within the team during the season is the problematic part. They have already been offered a very, very large amount from a blue blood

[msstate7]

Let me rephrase it for the special folks. The Hubbard crew has made it known to the State coaches that certain requirements need to be made in how the team operates going forward to benefit their brand.

So no I just didnt figure it out. NIL was always a known. Causing disruption within the team during the season is the problematic part. They have already been offered a very, very large amount from a blue blood

Hey golf, we quoted me. I like to drink too

[StarkVegasSteve]

Let me rephrase it for the special folks. The Hubbard crew has made it known to the State coaches that certain requirements need to be made in how the team operates going forward to benefit their brand.

So no I just didnt figure it out. NIL was always a known. Causing disruption within the team during the season is the problematic part. They have already been offered a very, very large amount from a blue blood

Well since without him we would lose every game by 20+ he can cause whatever issues he wants. Maybe it will cause some of our “leaders” to give a flying 17.

[msugolf]

Hey golf, we quoted me. I like to drink too

Oh sorry ha. Mobile doesn?t show up like that. So Im the special one. And yes, lets drink together

[R2Dawg]

He's a Mississippi kid, so I think we keep em. Tolu's money will go to him, and he knows it will be his team. I'll be surprised if we lose Hubbard unless we lose Jans, who probably just blew that for himself

I tend to agree; his parents can attend easily. But in todays $$$ world who knows. If Duke, NC, UK, etc. came calling; I could see him bolt.