I would fire him now.

[Cowbell]

No reason to wait. There ain't no turning this around.

[CaptainObvious]

You will have to go through his Buddy 34 to get him off that bucket and out that dugout.

[Cowbell]

You will have to go through his Buddy 34 to get him off that bucket and out that dugout.

Fortunately the people that really call the shots don't answer to 34

[Homedawg]

You will have to go through his Buddy 34 to get him off that bucket and out that dugout.
If we continue the way we have started, and at this point, it doesn't look good, he will be fired. But people that use the bucket as a reason he isn't good are just making up a reason for not succeeding. It's really a dumb one too. Sitting on a bucket while we play defense, has no bearing on anything. So if he stood, it would better?? I mean wth??? SMH

[Todd4State]

If we continue the way we have started, and at this point, it doesn't look good, he will be fired. But people that use the bucket as a reason he isn't good are just making up a reason for not succeeding. It's really a dumb one too. Sitting on a bucket while we play defense, has no bearing on anything. So if he stood, it would better?? I mean wth??? SMH

Like I said- if he acted like Vitello people would complain about how unprofessional it looks. Since he doesn't it's "I want to see some FIRE from our coach!"

In other words MSU fans always want the opposite of what they have at that time.

[The Federalist Engineer]

I wonder if MSU can't snake the current Oregon State coach. With the PAC12 meltdown, they will be playing independent in 2025. Tough times for the beavers.

Mitch Canham, 39 years old, running a top program, 4 years experience

Haire is 3-1 after playing 4 ranked teams.

[Coach34]

If we continue the way we have started, and at this point, it doesn't look good, he will be fired. But people that use the bucket as a reason he isn't good are just making up a reason for not succeeding. It's really a dumb one too. Sitting on a bucket while we play defense, has no bearing on anything. So if he stood, it would better?? I mean wth??? SMH

He yelled and cussed yesterday too. Not sure why we didnt win because that is what makes a good coach right?

[smootness]

Like I said- if he acted like Vitello people would complain about how unprofessional it looks. Since he doesn't it's "I want to see some FIRE from our coach!"

In other words MSU fans always want the opposite of what they have at that time.

It happens when we lose, and it is human nature. People will always look for anything to grasp for as a solution. No one cared that he sat on a bucket when we won the title, and people got over Cohen once he started winning.

It is like the Nate Bargatze joke about the one-legged DJ. Nobody cares, until he starts doing bad, and then, why has he only got one leg?

[Saltydog]

If we continue the way we have started, and at this point, it doesn't look good, he will be fired. But people that use the bucket as a reason he isn't good are just making up a reason for not succeeding. It's really a dumb one too. Sitting on a bucket while we play defense, has no bearing on anything. So if he stood, it would better?? I mean wth??? SMH

No one actually believes that. The bucket is more of a euphemism at this point.

[Goldendawg]

They are now his recruits, but I bet after a 14th and 13th finish the last two seasons and a 2-3 start this season, the players have an Arnett type feeling about Lemonis at this point. I often commented as I repped many of you guys over the last two plus years: Mid-pack Big 10 coach from Indiana who won a NC with a bunch of alpha dogs recruited by about 4 former coaches. Another coaching hire failure from "the smartest guy in the room", Cohen, who shot off his big mouth and couldn't deliver a big name, successful baseball HC.

[Coach34]

They are now his recruits.

100% his team. Get it done or pack your shit

[Dawgs87]

Like I said- if he acted like Vitello people would complain about how unprofessional it looks. Since he doesn't it's "I want to see some FIRE from our coach!"

In other words MSU fans always want the opposite of what they have at that time.

Strongly disagree. If Vitello was at State competing and winning the SEC, hosting Supers, and going to Omaha then nobody would say shit about his perceived unprofessional behavior.

Let's be honest.... Winning fixes everything.

[R2Dawg]

It happens when we lose, and it is human nature. People will always look for anything to grasp for as a solution. No one cared that he sat on a bucket when we won the title, and people got over Cohen once he started winning.

It is like the Nate Bargatze joke about the one-legged DJ. Nobody cares, until he starts doing bad, and then, why has he only got one leg?

Rep given. Yep, just what I was about to type till I saw your post. Don't know why people can't see this normal reaction. It ain't just an MSU thing. As many of of say, just win and winning cures all else. All the warts come out when you don't.

Our basketball team may look ugly on O some but just win and nobody will be talking about that.

[basedog]

Strongly disagree. If Vitello was at State competing and winning the SEC, hosting Supers, and going to Omaha then nobody would say shit about his perceived unprofessional behavior.

Let's be honest.... Winning fixes everything.

No doubt.

[R2Dawg]

He yelled and cussed yesterday too. Not sure why we didnt win because that is what makes a good coach right?

That is why many said Kirby was such a great coach and why UGA won the NC that year. That great inspiring cussing idiotic unhinged rant Kirby went on.*** Total BS. Coaching ain't a raging lunatic.

[basedog]

Rep given. Yep, just what I was about to type till I saw your post. Don't know why people can't see this normal reaction. It ain't just an MSU thing. As many of of say, just win and winning cures all else. All the warts come out when you don't.

Our basketball team may look ugly on O some but just win and nobody will be talking about that.

Jans seems to be a pretty good motivator. On the most part they play hard. I don't see this with our baseball program right now.

[Commercecomet24]

100% his team. Get it done or pack your shit

Yep, this is it. No excuses. Win or go.

[DownwardDawg]

If we continue the way we have started, and at this point, it doesn't look good, he will be fired. But people that use the bucket as a reason he isn't good are just making up a reason for not succeeding. It's really a dumb one too. Sitting on a bucket while we play defense, has no bearing on anything. So if he stood, it would better?? I mean wth??? SMH

Yeah. Never understood that one. I don't care what he does during the game as long as he coaches.
I do want to see some fight in the players though.

[Coach34]

On the most part they play hard. I don't see this with our baseball program right now.

This is what I dont get.

We dive after balls
We hustle
We are swinging the bat- not just standing there taking pitches
Pitchers are competing and pounding the zone much better than last year

Where are we not playing hard?

[KentuckyDawg13]

Timing is everything in life.

[basedog]

This is what I dont get.

We dive after balls
We hustle
We are swinging the bat- not just standing there taking pitches
Pitchers are competing and pounding the zone much better than last year

Where are we not playing hard?

No swag, no fire, lack of leadership, I don't see the old baseball "tradition" I'm use to seeing in players! No excitement but when a team is on a long losing streak they except losing more often than not. Surly 34 since you are a Coach you understand what I'm saying. I'm for giving Lemonis a chance to turn this thing around, but he better be making some changes quickly. But it looks pretty bad right now. I'm pulling for this team to win, I'm just not happy with what I'm seeing and I am not sugar coating the truth. Oh, I understand in baseball sometimes the better team doesn't win, but losing like we did to open the season makes me wonder that maybe we were not the better team.

[Coach34]

No swag, no fire, lack of leadership, I don't see the old baseball "tradition" I'm use to seeing in players! No excitement but when a team is on a long losing streak they except losing more often than not. Surly 34 since you are a Coach you understand what I'm saying. I'm for giving Lemonis a chance to turn this thing around, but he better be making some changes quickly. But it looks pretty bad right now. I'm pulling for this team to win, I'm just not happy with what I'm seeing and I am not sugar coating the truth. Oh, I understand in baseball sometimes the better team doesn't win, but losing like we did to open the season makes me wonder that maybe we were not the better team.

I see that we may be missing leadership/passion. But we are playing hard. Looks like a real lack of confidence

[Randolph Dupree]

I see that we may be missing leadership/passion. But we are playing hard. Looks like a real lack of confidence

And that's why we need a need coach. They don't have confidence in themselves or their coach...at least that's what I see.

[RockyDog]

Strongly disagree. If Vitello was at State competing and winning the SEC, hosting Supers, and going to Omaha then nobody would say shit about his perceived unprofessional behavior.

Let's be honest.... Winning fixes everything.

We have not traditionally had the administration with the sack to pull off a move like that. Maybe Byrne, if he had stuck around, would be willing to go against the MSU norm and hire an asshole. But definitely not LT, Loafers or Cohen.

Hell. LT would have been pacing the floor of the Hump with his face burning red with all of those “wife beater” chants. Our ADs have been some gutless SOBs. Now is the time for Selmon to show that he’s not one of those

[Cowbell]

Yep - should have fired him Thursday morning

[parabrave]

The players have quit. All you have to do is look at their approach to the plate. They DGAS.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I see that we may be missing leadership/passion. But we are playing hard. Looks like a real lack of confidence
More like a real lack of talent. How many players do we have would start for Arkansas, LSU or Florida? Thats on Lemonis and GoThreaux.

[Ranchdawg]

Do the players actually give a damn about this season. Seriously they are hitting like they have been only playing jr high baseball. I don?t ever recall a State team throwing and hitting runners in the base path thus allowing the runner to make the base twice in one game. Really bad. I also do not understand the evaluations of players recruits transfers. The players Lemon have brought in are NOT good players except for a couple. And definitely not M over S standards and capable of competing in the SEC the best conference in this country.

[Saltydog]

Croach say we have talent and a lot of draft picks which equals success.......

[Tbonewannabe]

More like a real lack of talent. How many players do we have would start for Arkansas, LSU or Florida? Thats on Lemonis and GoThreaux.

What the problem is right now has nothing to do with talent unless you think GA Southern, Air Force, and the Pee are all out recruiting us. We are getting pushed around at our house by lesser players and teams. One offs I get but we look like our football team playing Bama every day.

[smootness]

Have to fire him after this weekend. It is over.

[CaptainObvious]

Croach say we have talent and a lot of draft picks which equals success.......

I doubt any of our so called draft picks make it past Double A. In fact, our 2 studs in the middle of the batting order both could have played the Role of Beau Gentry in Clint Eastwood's movie "Trouble With The Curve"!

[Saltydog]

Hujusak can't hit a curve either.......it's painful to watch.......

[Turfdawg67]

And that's why we need a need coach. They don't have confidence in themselves or their coach...at least that's what I see.

Yet he constantly ripped a 9 win football coach ad nauseam. Bringing up stats and past history to argue his point. Somehow none of that matters with Lemon.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I see that we may be missing leadership/passion. But we are playing hard. Looks like a real lack of confidence

If you were playing for a coach that finish dead last or 2nd to last in the conference the past 2 years, you would t have any confidence either.

Almost like Lemo isn't a good coach and should have been gone last year.

Like you say THIS (year 6) is the year he should put up or be gone. I think it was last year. Year 5-especially in the Portal era- os PLENTY of time to fix any roster issues the last staff gave you. Especially after the disaster of the '22 season, he should have been fired after '23

[Dawgology]

He has the season but the replacement search has started

[DEDawg]

Yeah it?s time. I was optimistic after AF weekend but clear whatever funk was the past 2 years is still here

[Pancho]

so, does Selmon can him if he loses today or just let him go monday morning, regardless?

[Cowbell]

He has the season but the replacement search has started

It's been started for almost a year

[Cowbell]

Yeah it?s time. I was optimistic after AF weekend but clear whatever funk was the past 2 years is still here

The funk is now a full-blown terminal illness

[DownwardDawg]

so, does Selmon can him if he loses today or just let him go monday morning, regardless?

All season most likely. But I believe Dawgology, that the search has probably already started.
I want Tennessee's coach regardless of how unlikely that is, and how much of an asshole he is. He wins baseball games. He ain't leaving Knoxville TN for Starkville MS though.

[Coach34]

I doubt any of our so called draft picks make it past Double A. In fact, our 2 studs in the middle of the batting order both could have played the Role of Beau Gentry in Clint Eastwood's movie "Trouble With The Curve"!

Most of our draft picks are pitchers

[Coach34]

If you were playing for a coach that finish dead last or 2nd to last in the conference the past 2 years, you would t have any confidence either.

I'd feel pretty responsible for not performing

[BHildreth3]

This is very obvious but it needs to be stated again. We. Need. A. Tough. No Bullshit. Asshole. Coach that can handle the pressure. Everything feeds off of that and Lemon is not it. Dan McDonnell tried to help his friend. Unfortunately it did not work for us. Where is Cannizzaro number 2 who can really find ****ing ballers? Throw stupid money at vol coach yes, we need someone who demands and gets results and is not reading boards and cares what fans think bc he is mowing teams down and kicking ass! Lets go Zac Selmon!

[Homedawg]

This is very obvious but it needs to be stated again. We. Need. A. Tough. No Bullshit. Asshole. Coach that can handle the pressure. Everything feeds off of that and Lemon is not it. Dan McDonnell tried to help his friend. Unfortunately it did not work for us. Where is Cannizzaro number 2 who can really find ****ing ballers? Throw stupid money at vol coach yes, we need someone who demands and gets results and is not reading boards and cares what fans think bc he is mowing teams down and kicking ass! Lets go Zac Selmon!

This nonsense of cann finding ballers is just that. Nonsense. His recruiting sucked if you look at who committed to him and played here. Forsythe is the best inf he committed.

[Todd4State]

This nonsense of cann finding ballers is just that. Nonsense. His recruiting sucked if you look at who committed to him and played here. Forsythe is the best inf he committed.

Thank you! Not to mention be brought in Gautreau who most fans are ready to fire too.

[The Federalist Engineer]

This nonsense of cann finding ballers is just that. Nonsense. His recruiting sucked if you look at who committed to him and played here. Forsythe is the best inf he committed.

LF is hitting 320 at Ok State and perfect 1000 fielding.

This weekend he laid a perfect suicide squeeze to beat Arkansas in extra innings. Before the Arkansas game (14 innings of a 2-1 game), he was hitting close to 400. He seems to be balling in Stillwater. Let's see if he becomes an All Big XII performer to add insult to our injury.

Credit Coach34 for the heads up.

[sandjunky]

Slate Alford

Hitting .364 3HR 2B 10RBI
Fielding 0 errors in 19 chances (3rd most)

Through 7 games and UGA is 7-0

[The Federalist Engineer]

Slate Alford

Hitting .364 3HR 2B 10RBI
Fielding 0 errors in 19 chances (3rd most)

Through 7 games and UGA is 7-0

But is he doing the chest thump with 2 strikes?***

It troublesome that Forsythe and Alford could not field worth a damn in Starkville last year. 2023 Alford was worse than Tommy White as a fielder, 835. 2023 Forsythe was 884, he was a soft hitting and bad fielding SS. Even Mershon was 895.

[BrunswickDawg]

But is he doing the chest thump with 2 strikes?***

It troublesome that Forsythe and Alford could not field worth a damn in Starkville last year. 2023 Alford was worse than Tommy White as a fielder, 835. 2023 Forsythe was 884, he was a soft hitting and bad fielding SS. Even Mershon was 895.

Neither one has made an error a their new teams. Forsythe has had 35 chances in 7 starts; Alford 19 chances in 7 starts. Zero. Errors.

[Coach34]

Neither one has made an error a their new teams. Forsythe has had 35 chances in 7 starts; Alford 19 chances in 7 starts. Zero. Errors.

While it is interesting to see their starts so far- a couple of things:

A) Slate's attitude was awful and his Deddy was way too involved constantly. Maybe a change of scenery is helping things

B) Oklahoma State has a turf field which is obviously easier to field on.

[BrunswickDawg]

While it is interesting to see their starts so far- a couple of things:

A) Slate's attitude was awful and his Deddy was way too involved constantly. Maybe a change of scenery is helping things

B) Oklahoma State has a turf field which is obviously easier to field on.

I'm sure that starting over helped both. But, it's still a pretty stark