Hitting Approach

[BeardoMSU]

I'm sure this has been covered before, and former guys like Tanner sing his praises, but what exactly is Gautreau's philosophy as a hitting coach?

What is(are) the reason(s) we're getting bamboozled by a mid-week guy from Austin Peay?

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm sure this has been covered before, and former guys like Tanner sing his praises, but what exactly is Gautreau's philosophy as a hitting coach?

What is(are) the reason(s) we're getting bamboozled by a mid-week guy from Austin Peay?

It will prolly be a combination of he throws soft, we were never as good we we thought we were since 85 and Mike leach

[BeardoMSU]

It will prolly be a combination of he throws soft, we were never as good we we thought we were since 85 and Mike leach

Anyone else wanna chime in? Anyone????***

[WSOPdawg]

I'm sure this has been covered before, and former guys like Tanner sing his praises, but what exactly is Gautreau's philosophy as a hitting coach?

What is(are) the reason(s) we're getting bamboozled by a mid-week guy from Austin Peay?

Actually, we always ALWAYS seem to get bamboozled by a mid-week guy from "AP." I've come to expect it with Gautreau's coaching style.

[schddog72]

I'm sure this has been covered before, and former guys like Tanner sing his praises, but what exactly is Gautreau's philosophy as a hitting coach?

What is(are) the reason(s) we're getting bamboozled by a mid-week guy from Austin Peay?

Swing hard in case you hit it.

[bulldogcountry1]

Part of it was that Foxhall was obsessed with velocity. So, that?s what our hitters faced all fall and early spring. So, when we face a pitcher that throws off speed, our hitters don?t know what to do.

[HoopsDawg]

We aren't very strong right now 5-9.

Then 2-3 are free swingers.

Good news is we should get better when Mershon and Kohler return. Plus, I like McKenzie at DH.

[Offshore Dawg]

We aren't very strong right now 5-9.

Then 2-3 are free swingers.

Good news is we should get better when Mershon and Kohler return. Plus, I like McKenzie at DH.

But, will it be enough ?

[mparkerfd20]

Yall enjoy another shitshow from this staff. I'm out on this team already.

[Todd4State]

I've heard Gautreau speak about his philosophy. Basically it's let guys do their own thing, let them fail, and then build them back.

It's not what I would do personally.

Edit to say it does explain slow starts and later improvement.

[HoopsDawg]

But, will it be enough ?

Parker is doing everything he can to save Lemons ass

[civildawg]

Let Parker be interim coach

[The Federalist Engineer]

Let Parker be interim coach

Parker as Interim HC, I think this hurts MSU next season by forcing Parker to widen focus in 2024. If he can get Freshmen and Sophomore Pitchers developed, that will be a big attraction to the next coach.

From 7.5 ERA to 4.5 ERA, from 351 BB to 200 BB would be huge for recruiting next coach. You get a pitching coach and ready staff.

[civildawg]

It was more tongue in cheek but I'll be honest Lemonis leash needs to be short.

[Saltydog]

Bottom 5 in the lineup thru 4 games is 11-68..........If you don't want to do the math that's .162.........

[maroonmania]

I've heard Gautreau speak about his philosophy. Basically it's let guys do their own thing, let them fail, and then build them back.

It's not what I would do personally.

Edit to say it does explain slow starts and later improvement.

Gotro is gonna cost Lemonis his job at this rate. Parker's staff has given up 12 runs in 4 games yet here we sit at 2-2 against some of the weaker teams on our schedule.

[BeardoMSU]

Gotro is gonna cost Lemonis his job at this rate. Parker's staff has given up 12 runs in 4 games yet here we sit at 2-2 against some of the weaker teams on our schedule.

That's sobering, lol.

[BeardoMSU]

Bottom 5 in the lineup thru 4 games is 11-68..........If you don't want to do the math that's .162.........

Thanks for doing the math for me, lol. Seriously!

Yikes.

[DawgFromOxford]

Gotro is gonna cost Lemonis his job at this rate. Parker's staff has given up 12 runs in 4 games yet here we sit at 2-2 against some of the weaker teams on our schedule.

It?s like we did a full 180 from last year. Couldn?t pitch worth a lick but seemed to score excessively. Now we pitch great and can?t buy a run to save our lives

[Cooterpoot]

I said it last year and will again. We stand on top of the plate and try to pull every damn ball. We can't get the barrel to the inside pitch and we don't read the pitch, just guess FB on the outside, so we're early. We were near the bottom in everything but HRs last year. Gotro needs to go! But they all do now anyway, except Parker who seems to be doing his job.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It was said when Foxhall was gone, what pitching coach is going to come here and coach for a lame duck

[civildawg]

I'll be honest, I've never really been a fan of Gotro. I cannot stand the tap your chest bull crap. That is some little league tournament team type stuff

[KOdawg1]

I'll be honest, I've never really been a fan of Gotro. I cannot stand the tap your chest bull crap. That is some little league tournament team type stuff

It's cool when you actually have a 2 strike approach and protect the plate and battle, but it's moronic and silly when you pump your chest only to whiff on a breaking ball 2 feet off the plate

[Irondawg]

Hitting coaches certainly help but I just don't think we've recruited very good hitters the past couple of classes. At a certain point, hitters can just hit. They can be refined but we seem to very up and down with our plate discipline. It will show up for a stretch and then totally disappear.

I don't know that any of us can put our finger on why we continue to find ways to lose but I think we're collectively out of patience with it.

[Todd4State]

Hitting coaches certainly help but I just don't think we've recruited very good hitters the past couple of classes. At a certain point, hitters can just hit. They can be refined but we seem to very up and down with our plate discipline. It will show up for a stretch and then totally disappear.

I don't know that any of us can put our finger on why we continue to find ways to lose but I think we're collectively out of patience with it.

If we're swinging at balls and not making situational adjustments at the plate that is on the coaches IMO.

Again IMO based on observations and hearing comments I feel like we treat our players too much like they're pros and not enough like they are college players.

Sometimes the COACH has to tell the hitters "hey this guy isn't throwing strikes. Take some pitches." That is just an example.

Or when you get two strikes protect the plate. Make sure the ball is in a certain zone and try to put the ball in play or go opposite field.

If I were in Lemonis's shoes after the game I would have gone up to Gautreau and told him "hey! If I'm fired you're fired too. So I suggest you start teaching some fundamentals like this is week four of the season. And that includes baserunning too."

[DownwardDawg]

I'll be honest, I've never really been a fan of Gotro. I cannot stand the tap your chest bull crap. That is some little league tournament team type stuff

I haven't seen anything from him.

[CaptainObvious]

It is amazing thst Lemonis continues to recruit outstanding defensive shortstops that can't hit a lick. I mean literally every good team in the SEC has a Stud Defensive Shortstop who can hit in the upper .290's or higher. And State locks in on guys who can't hit their baby weight!

[bulldogcountry1]

I've heard Gautreau speak about his philosophy. Basically it's let guys do their own thing, let them fail, and then build them back.

It's not what I would do personally.

Edit to say it does explain slow starts and later improvement.



I've heard him say the same, and it seems to fit the pattern our hitters follow through the season. We always tend hit to be hitting it well in the second half. The question I have is what are you teaching them in the offseason, and how do you explain the slow start for returning starters? Do they forget how to hit every offseason?

What sucks is that we scheduled a weak OOC schedule, and we are taking bad losses. I also don't look forward the second phase of JG's philosophy, which will be 10-12 lazy fly balls per game.

[Offshore Dawg]

It's cool when you actually have a 2 strike approach and protect the plate and battle, but it's moronic and silly when you pump your chest only to whiff on a breaking ball 2 feet off the plate

Time after time, looking like all of them.