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Coach34
01-30-2024, 08:36 PM
**** the Shitbirds

Coach34
01-30-2024, 08:39 PM
physicallllllll babyyyyyyy

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 08:44 PM
Dang this year, corn row Tolu sucks. Tolu disappears and plays terrible when pressed. He needs to slow down.

Cam has played good with corn this year. Like Cam with the fro though.

Maroonthirteen
01-30-2024, 08:45 PM
Manute Bol kid will remember that shoulder to the chest

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 08:47 PM
Tolu needs get his head in game. Davis drops him a dime and nothing.

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 08:47 PM
Tolu needs to sit. He is killing us.

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 08:50 PM
Davis gets hammered and no foul then call foul on him.

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 08:51 PM
Officiating is horrible to start.

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 08:52 PM
He walked, my goodness.

Maroonthirteen
01-30-2024, 08:53 PM
Last 4 or 5 possessions we haven't even shot the ball. Turnover before we even shoot. Damn it

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 08:53 PM
We look like a bunch of random kids in the park trying to imitate And1 streetball

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 08:53 PM
Everyone going too fast on offense.
That was not a foul by Davis. Dude blew the whistle.

Make that another turnover.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 08:55 PM
Then we get a clean steal, dribble off our foot to an easy UM bucket. Damn.

Cloak
01-30-2024, 08:57 PM
Love the decision from Jans to sit Tolu. It just had to be done. He's just not physical enough

Maroonthirteen
01-30-2024, 08:57 PM
I don't care what happens tonight. State is a better team.

We are playing terrible at their place and have a small lead. They have so overrated hyped all season.

Goldendawg
01-30-2024, 08:59 PM
Davis's minutes need to go to Hubbard, Moore & Fort (may be hurt).

Cloak
01-30-2024, 09:01 PM
Love the decision from Jans to sit Tolu. It just had to be done. He's just not physical enough

Right on cue he's back in unfortunately lol

Maroonthirteen
01-30-2024, 09:03 PM
Ha. Just took the ball from that skinny b

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 09:05 PM
Ok refs calling fouls now.

We playing tough, like we need to. We need Tolu to show up at some point.

Dang Hubbard changes everything!!

Coach34
01-30-2024, 09:05 PM
lol- I hate game threads. You guys kill me.

Tolu is one of the best 3 guys in the country in the paint. Holy shit

Travelingdawg
01-30-2024, 09:06 PM
Yes heard today Fort was out a couple games, sprained thumb.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:11 PM
Tolu literally does not know how to get position.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:13 PM
Someone needs to put the ball in the bucket while Hubbard is out. Who is it going to be?

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:15 PM
UN offensive guy drives his shoulder into Cam just running beside him, defensive foul?

Thick
01-30-2024, 09:15 PM
Some bullshit fouls called on us…..Davis and Jones, jr

MoreCowbell
01-30-2024, 09:17 PM
lol- I hate game threads. You guys kill me.

Tolu is one of the best 3 guys in the country in the paint. Holy shit

He is very skilled but needs to learn how to play off-ball when he is not the 1st option.

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 09:25 PM
Is tolu the most overrated player we have had

Maroonthirteen
01-30-2024, 09:25 PM
UN offensive guy drives his shoulder into Cam just running beside him, defensive foul?

For reals. That was BS.

DawgFromOxford
01-30-2024, 09:25 PM
How do you get screened at the 3pt line like that to give a completely open look with 5 seconds left in the half. Everyone saw it coming except us apparently

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 09:27 PM
Shak Moore is the key to the season

Cloak
01-30-2024, 09:31 PM
lol- I hate game threads. You guys kill me.

Tolu is one of the best 3 guys in the country in the paint. Holy shit

Lmao. That's a crazy statement. I think you drank a little too much coffee...

Coach34
01-30-2024, 09:31 PM
Is tolu the most overrated player we have had

Holy shit. Thats like saying Will Rogers throws a great deep ball

Coach34
01-30-2024, 09:32 PM
Lmao. That's a crazy statement. I think you drank a little too much coffee...

Nobody plays him 1 on 1- there is a reason for that

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 09:36 PM
Hoping Beard doesn’t coach circles around the dentist coming out of the half.

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 09:37 PM
lol- I hate game threads. You guys kill me.

Tolu is one of the best 3 guys in the country in the paint. Holy shit

I love Tolu but he has sucked the first half. No one said he was worst big in SEC.

Maroonthirteen
01-30-2024, 09:40 PM
Ok. He needs to come out. Ridiculous

R2Dawg
01-30-2024, 09:40 PM
That is about the 7th TO on Tolu, then a stupid foul for 3. Did OM pay him off?

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 09:40 PM
Holy shit. Thats like saying Will Rogers throws a great deep ball

Yeah he looks great

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 09:40 PM
Get Tolus lazy ass out there!!!

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 09:41 PM
God C34 you are just steady eating Ls hahaha

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:41 PM
Simple as this, Tolu up to the start of the 2nd half, did not come to play. He needs to figure it out.

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 09:41 PM
Ballgame

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 09:42 PM
Hahahhahaha

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 09:42 PM
Back to And1 skreetball

Cloak
01-30-2024, 09:43 PM
Turnovers and a couple bad defensive possessions for the top 3 paint player to start the half.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:44 PM
At this point, I would rather Bell be out there.

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 09:45 PM
Beard is gonna own Jans’s ass for as long as he wants to

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:45 PM
Tolu isn?t Lawrence Roberts. Get down low, use their body, create space and get a shot off the glass.

Maroonthirteen
01-30-2024, 09:47 PM
Well. Mo has changed. We can't get a clean look. They have found their touch. Glad I didn't go to this game.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:47 PM
Don?t call timeout. Let it run.

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 09:47 PM
Well. Mo has changed. We can't get a clean look. They have found their touch. Glad I didn't go to this game.

Stone Hands Tolu

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:48 PM
Why don?t we cover a guy that steps out? All the do is dribble at the three, the guy next to him steps out, they pass and shoot.

Over and over. At some point our guys need to tighten up on the guy stepping out.

Leeshouldveflanked
01-30-2024, 09:48 PM
[QUOTE=RockyDog;1582138]Beard is gonna own Jans?s ass for as long as he wants to[/QUOTE

Just like Lane Train

Cloak
01-30-2024, 09:48 PM
I hate talking bad about Tolu, because I'm cheering for him. He's just not that guy. I hope he figures it out.

We will get a run, OM just got theirs.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:49 PM
Again, I said to take UN and the over. We simple cannot or have not played two games in a row worth a shit in 15 years. It gets old.

BeardoMSU
01-30-2024, 09:49 PM
We are so GD sloppy with the ball. Infuriating.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 09:50 PM
I hate talking bad about Tolu, because I'm cheering for him. He's just not that guy. I hope he figures it out.

We will get a run, OM just got theirs.

I wish our big time players showed up. He looks like a fat freshman out there until now. Does he even have an offensive board or a single FG this game?

Saltydog
01-30-2024, 09:51 PM
It's like I told a poster on here earlier today regarding this game, we just don't have enough offense to win the big games on the road. They can shoot. We can't. Ballgame......

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 09:52 PM
I thought we played defense

RocketDawg
01-30-2024, 09:52 PM
Took 6 minutes to make a field goal.

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 09:53 PM
O fer the road. Jans is Overrated

Saltydog
01-30-2024, 09:57 PM
Corn Rows needs to sit. When he's doubled he just vanishes.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:00 PM
Alright, we are in the bonus. Hit free throws. All of them. Let?s go. 17. Missed the front end. Turnover.

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 10:02 PM
Corn Rows needs to sit. When he's doubled he just vanishes.

One trick pony

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:03 PM
Smith looks ready now.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:03 PM
Corn Rows needs to sit. When he's doubled he just vanishes.

If he would go strong the second he catches it, then the double team wouldn?t matter. But he doesn?t.

parabrave
01-30-2024, 10:13 PM
Cam Manning up.

parabrave
01-30-2024, 10:15 PM
Toulu has inproved his FT shooting

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:18 PM
I expect Tolu to win this game for us. The time is now.

RockyDog
01-30-2024, 10:21 PM
Given up 11 threes and 20 assists. Atrocious effort tonight

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 10:24 PM
Given up 11 threes and 20 assists. Atrocious effort tonight

I agree the defensive effort is not what it has been. Better score

Big4Dawg
01-30-2024, 10:24 PM
Given up 11 threes and 20 assists. Atrocious effort tonight

Are we watching a different game? The effort is 100% there. Both teams just shooting lights out

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 10:27 PM
Please get out of this pressure defense they have absolutely cooked us its not doing shit

CaptainObvious
01-30-2024, 10:27 PM
Well I think it is that Ole Miss shooters are just good. If State is a tourney team, so is Ole Miss. They can flat out dribble penetrate and get lots of open shots inside and out. They create offense off the dribble. We dribble to audition for the kiddie halftime dribbling show.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:30 PM
Well here it is. I want Shaq taking it.

parabrave
01-30-2024, 10:32 PM
Feed Cam/

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:32 PM
This better be a two man possession. Between Shaq and Hubbard.

parabrave
01-30-2024, 10:32 PM
Well here it is. I want Shaq taking it.

Well anyone but DJ.

parabrave
01-30-2024, 10:34 PM
Call A T on the fans

Quaoarsking
01-30-2024, 10:34 PM
Should be a technical for throwing that pompom on the floor

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:36 PM
Shaq or Hubbard. Instead. Clank. Hell of a game for Cam. This game was lost when Tolu didn?t play the first 5 minutes of the half.

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:38 PM
Shit. Cam.

MoreCowbell
01-30-2024, 10:38 PM
Wow

Big4Dawg
01-30-2024, 10:39 PM
You have to be kidding me

msugolf
01-30-2024, 10:39 PM
Just an awful coaching job on that final possession

DawgFromOxford
01-30-2024, 10:40 PM
Quite possibly the most unclutch free throw possession I've ever seen

CaptainObvious
01-30-2024, 10:40 PM
We've been saying free throw shooting was gonna cost us a game. That was the worst effort at "missing" a free throw I have ever seen!

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:41 PM
Hell of a game.. not even mad. Couple things though...

1. Jans, that token pressure all night was garbage. They got easy shot after easy shot vs it.

2. Jans, you can't set up a game tying shot for Matthews or tolu bc teams can just foul them.

I thought we played great, but Jans didn't have his best night

Lord McBuckethead
01-30-2024, 10:41 PM
We are so bad a free throws. It cost us this game, amongst the opening 3 minutes of the half.

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 10:41 PM
Im glad Tolu is taking money from fans for this

99jc
01-30-2024, 10:41 PM
17 this team. every time you start to believe they 17 it up.

CaptainObvious
01-30-2024, 10:42 PM
Im pretty sure cam was supposed to penetrate and throw it back to Hubbard who had no one within 15 feet of him.

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 10:42 PM
17 this team. every time you start to believe they 17 it up.

Same ol stuff

StarkVegasSteve
01-30-2024, 10:42 PM
Literally take all our NIL money and give it to Hubbard and FT and 3 pt shooters. And fire whoever the FT coach is if we have one.

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:43 PM
17 this team. every time you start to believe they 17 it up.

My God, they just beat a top 10 team. Our fans are so stupid about basketball... it's hard as hell to win road games.

Joebob
01-30-2024, 10:45 PM
17 this team. every time you start to believe they 17 it up.

You shouldn't let one win change anything. They need to play consistently good basketball and win several in a row to show that they've actually turned a corner.

CaptainObvious
01-30-2024, 10:45 PM
Should be a technical for throwing that pompom on the floor

They are NEVER going to let a game be decided by a pompom thrown in the floor in a dead ball situation. NEVER! Now a Bloody Tampon, maybe!😳

MoreCowbell
01-30-2024, 10:45 PM
What is disheartening is we shot better from the field, shot better from 3, out rebounded them on offense and defense and made more free throws.

We lost the turnover battle 15-7, that is where game was lost.

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:46 PM
Literally take all our NIL money and give it to Hubbard and FT and 3 pt shooters. And fire whoever the FT coach is if we have one.

I'd make the move to Andy Kennedy style of offense with Hubbard being the volume shooter next season

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:47 PM
You shouldn't let one win change anything. They need to play consistently good basketball and win several in a row to show that they've actually turned a corner.

Kinda hard to get a winning streak when 7 of your 8 sec games are q1 games

Saltydog
01-30-2024, 10:47 PM
My God, they just beat a top 10 team. Our fans are so stupid about basketball... it's hard as hell to win road games.

Apparently much harder for some than others.......

StarkVegasSteve
01-30-2024, 10:47 PM
What is disheartening is we shot better from the field, shot better from 3, out rebounded them on offense and defense and made more free throws.

We lost the turnover battle 15-7, that is where game was lost.

And for the 5th or 6th straight year they had a nobody career it against us. Guy averages 5 a game and scores 18.

StarkVegasSteve
01-30-2024, 10:50 PM
Kinda hard to get a winning streak when 7 of your 8 sec games are q1 games

Welcome to the SEC. Life is tough in this conference. To be elite you have to win road games. We currently do not do that. We will do the same crap on Saturday that we usually do, outside of tonight. We will get down big, make a run and cut it to 5 or 6, and then lose by 10.

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:50 PM
Apparently much harder for some than others.......

Our road games in the sec have all been q1 games. SC, OM, and Florida have 1 loss at home combined all year... Florida lost by 2 to Kentucky

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:51 PM
Welcome to the SEC. Life is tough in this conference. To be elite you have to win road games. We currently do not do that. We will do the same crap on Saturday that we usually do, outside of tonight. We will get down big, make a run and cut it to 5 or 6, and then lose by 10.
We've played more Q1 sec games than all the sec teams

StarkVegasSteve
01-30-2024, 10:53 PM
We've played more Q1 sec games than all the sec teams

And should have won 3 of them. We have blown 3 great Q1 opportunities now. That is what keeps you out of the tournament or in the play in on Selection Sunday.

You have to make the most of your opportunities. Q1 wins move the needle. Q2 and Q3 just hold serve unless you lose, which we will probably do at least once.

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:53 PM
After Saturday, the schedule lets up big time. All the ones crying in here didn't think we'd win one of Auburn, OM, and Bama anyway, so dry them tears and be a big boy. If we suck in February, then sure, cry

civildawg
01-30-2024, 10:53 PM
Welcome to the SEC. Life is tough in this conference. To be elite you have to win road games. We currently do not do that. We will do the same crap on Saturday that we usually do, outside of tonight. We will get down big, make a run and cut it to 5 or 6, and then lose by 10.

This. Tired of hearing the excuses about winning on the road. Just win

msstate7
01-30-2024, 10:54 PM
And should have won 3 of them. We have blown 3 great Q1 opportunities now. That is what keeps you out of the tournament or in the play in on Selection Sunday.

We've won 2 vs teams that quite frankly we shouldn't. Auburn and Tenn are better than us

maroonmania
01-30-2024, 10:58 PM
Our road games in the sec have all been q1 games. SC, OM, and Florida have 1 loss at home combined all year... Florida lost by 2 to Kentucky

Our defense is not playing well enough on the road to win. We gave up 90 to KY, 86 tonight to OM and I think 80 to FL if I remember right. It's going to be a rare event when we give up 80+ points and win. That's just not the Jans way. I would put us at about a 5% chance to win in Tuscaloosa so we are already basically at 3-6.

StarkVegasSteve
01-30-2024, 10:58 PM
We've won 2 vs teams that quite frankly we shouldn't. Auburn and Tenn are better than us

And lost two against two teams we should have beat. South Carolina and OM both should have been wins but TOs killed us at both places. Unfortunately we do not play well on the road and that will haunt us come March, one way or the other.

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 11:03 PM
3-6 is not very good no matter how you defend it. 3-6 is not just losing on the road

msstate7
01-30-2024, 11:06 PM
3-6 is not very good no matter how you defend it. 3-6 is not just losing on the road

You're right, they lost to #7 NET bama at home. That's the home sec losses.

StarkVegasSteve
01-30-2024, 11:09 PM
3-6 is not very good no matter how you defend it. 3-6 is not just losing on the road

It actually is. We have played 4 home games and 5 road games after Saturday. So 3-6 is basically just losing on the road.

msstate7
01-30-2024, 11:14 PM
It actually is. We have played 4 home games and 5 road games after Saturday. So 3-6 is basically just losing on the road.

I understand the frustration esp after a loss to OM, but our schedule has been brutal...

4 homes game with 3 of them being top 10 in net.

3 road games with all 3 being Q1 games. Those 3 teams we played on the road have 1 loss combined all season at home.

StarkVegasSteve
01-30-2024, 11:17 PM
I understand the frustration esp after a loss to OM, but our schedule has been brutal...

4 homes game with 3 of them being top 10 in net.

3 road games with all 3 being Q1 games. Those 3 teams we played on the road have 1 loss combined all season at home.

But you let two of those road games slip away and one of the home games. And they slipped away because we cannot do fundamental things correctly. If we were just getting beat then oh well. But we are getting beat by little things.

DawgFromOxford
01-30-2024, 11:19 PM
You guys can sell it all you want that the team is better than the record shows due to tough scheduling blah blah blah... Maybe you're right. But the average to below average fan isn't going to pay money and drive to Starkville to pack the hump when its a 50/50 chance if the team shows up and plays decent or plays abysmal basketball.

If Jans and the team want consistent support then they need consistent wins. end of story

msstate7
01-30-2024, 11:22 PM
You guys can sell it all you want that the team is better than the record shows due to tough scheduling blah blah blah... Maybe you're right. But the average to below average fan isn't going to pay money and drive to Starkville to pack the hump when its a 50/50 chance if the team shows up and plays decent or plays abysmal basketball.

If Jans and the team want consistent support then they need consistent wins. end of story

Our fans aren't coming anyway. They've proven over and over again they're only looking for justification not to come.

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 11:43 PM
It actually is. We have played 4 home games and 5 road games after Saturday. So 3-6 is basically just losing on the road.

I dont care enough to go look at every teams record but you don?t need me to tel you that 3-6 is bad no matter where you play, and that good teams win on the road. At least ya l know 2-3 out of 5 times. The road excuse will be the excuse we are in NIT and people will continue to not give a shit about the sport

BuckyIsAB****
01-30-2024, 11:45 PM
Our fans aren't coming anyway. They've proven over and over again they're only looking for justification not to come.

Well yea. Games like tonight are why. OM won because our team leader in NIL gave the game away.

MoreCowbell
01-30-2024, 11:53 PM
Should have taken one of @USCe, @FLA or @OM. Not doing that will come back to haunt us

DawgFromOxford
01-31-2024, 12:20 AM
Our fans aren't coming anyway. They've proven over and over again they're only looking for justification not to come.


Our fans aren't coming anyway. They've proven over and over again they're only looking for justification not to come.

Because the team has shown over and over again that they may not show up either. And it?s been that way for over a decade now. And by showing up I mean playing a level of basketball that results in a W. You want fans to get over their apathy and pack the hump? Then win some dang road games. String some decent wins together.

I love watching us play tough physical basketball. I love watching Hubbard play. But I love watching us win more. And the fact is we haven?t done that consistently in quite some time.

Nothing like spending hard earned money and driving for hours to watch our team lose games because we shoot 68% from the free throw line. Which is good enough for last place in the SEC and 282nd in D1 basketball.

msstate7
01-31-2024, 08:13 AM
Because the team has shown over and over again that they may not show up either. And it?s been that way for over a decade now. And by showing up I mean playing a level of basketball that results in a W. You want fans to get over their apathy and pack the hump? Then win some dang road games. String some decent wins together.

I love watching us play tough physical basketball. I love watching Hubbard play. But I love watching us win more. And the fact is we haven?t done that consistently in quite some time.

Nothing like spending hard earned money and driving for hours to watch our team lose games because we shoot 68% from the free throw line. Which is good enough for last place in the SEC and 282nd in D1 basketball.

Net #37
BPI #34
Kenpom #33
RPI #35

Bracketmatrix has up in 84 of 86 brackets.

We're in a position to make the tourney in back-to-back years for only the 6th time in our history.

Either our fans expectations are way too high or our fans' basketball IQ is too low. I lean the latter

StarkVegasSteve
01-31-2024, 10:03 AM
Net #37
BPI #34
Kenpom #33
RPI #35

Bracketmatrix has up in 84 of 86 brackets.

We're in a position to make the tourney in back-to-back years for only the 6th time in our history.

Either our fans expectations are way too high or our fans' basketball IQ is too low. I lean the latter

If expecting a team to shoot 75% from the FT line, which is good for 53rd in the country, is asking too much then you are right. My expectations are too high.

msstate7
01-31-2024, 10:08 AM
If expecting a team to shoot 75% from the FT line, which is good for 53rd in the country, is asking too much then you are right. My expectations are too high.

6 teams in the sec shoot that %. I'd love that too, but that isn't the only stat in basketball.

StarkVegasSteve
01-31-2024, 11:13 AM
6 teams in the sec shoot that %. I'd love that too, but that isn't the only stat in basketball.

It is not. You are correct. We also turned it over 15 times last night and 13 times at USCe. That is 28 turnovers in 2 games that we lost by a combined 10 points. Those are two Q1 opportunities blown because we could not do something fundamental, like take care of of the ball.

Coach34
01-31-2024, 01:53 PM
If expecting a team to shoot 75% from the FT line, which is good for 53rd in the country, is asking too much then you are right. My expectations are too high.

Yep- wayyy too high. We have 1 team do that in the last 22 years- the shortened 2020 season.

Shot 70% or better 6 times in 22 years

StarkVegasSteve
01-31-2024, 02:04 PM
Yep- wayyy too high. We have 1 team do that in the last 22 years- the shortened 2020 season.

Shot 70% or better 6 times in 22 years

That is a sobering stat. So basically we have always sucked at shooting FTs. I mean even just asking us to shoot 72, which would put us at 150th, seems to be a steep hill to climb.

maroonmania
01-31-2024, 06:54 PM
That is a sobering stat. So basically we have always sucked at shooting FTs. I mean even just asking us to shoot 72, which would put us at 150th, seems to be a steep hill to climb.

Yes, we do pretty much always suck at free throw shooting. Coaches and players come and go but we still always suck. And OM is almost always the opposite. Coaches and players come and go there as well but they still always seem to be competent at free throw shooting. Very weird.