Decamerion Richardson

[ZedFedder]

He is entering the NFL Draft rather than going to OM.

https://www.si.com/college/olemiss/football/ole-miss-rebels-commit-decamerion-richardson-declares-for-2024-nfl-draft

[Bdawg]

Why in the world go through the transfer deal and then declare? Have they gotten some grades back or something? But what has he really done on the field to stand out? But hey, I’m glad. Hurts OM!!

[Todd4State]

Why in the world go through the transfer deal and then declare? Have they gotten some grades back or something? But what has he really done on the field to stand out? But hey, I’m glad. Hurts OM!!

Probably wanted to get back at MSU for firing McBath if I had to guess.

There are some rumors he told all of our corners to transfer out.

[Homedawg]

He has some nfl teams that like him. But he wasn't given a draft grade to come out. But I can see him getting drafted.

[HancockCountyDog]

He has some nfl teams that like him. But he wasn't given a draft grade to come out. But I can see him getting drafted.

Yeah, some agent got in his ear. Way to go agent!

[Coach34]

He has some nfl teams that like him. But he wasn't given a draft grade to come out. But I can see him getting drafted.

He will likely be an UDFA and signing FA contract. I just dont see any of our guys being drafted. Leach's recruiting was awful

[dawgday166]

He will likely be an UDFA and signing FA contract. I just dont see any of our guys being drafted. Leach's recruiting was awful

Yea ... everything about Leach sucked. I imagine for most folks you don't really have to repeat it another 1000 times to get your point across. They get it by now.

[Todd4State]

He has some nfl teams that like him. But he wasn't given a draft grade to come out. But I can see him getting drafted.

Don't they stop at second round and then after that they're kind of like enter the draft at your own risk?

[Bdawg]

He will likely be an UDFA and signing FA contract. I just dont see any of our guys being drafted. Leach's recruiting was awful

I agree with you about his draft and we may have been going down a bad recruiting trail Leach, but you can’t argue with him winning 9 games his last year and I still feel we would have had a good season last year. It also seemed Leach was about to transition his offense a little with the QBs he was recruiting. Some part of me hates we won’t see it, but hopefully Lebby can take this offense to another level in the future.

[Bdawg]

Don't they stop at second round and then after that they're kind of like enter the draft at your own risk?

I thought it was third but you may be right. But pretty sure not past 3rd

[Bdawg]

Probably wanted to get back at MSU for firing McBath if I had to guess.

There are some rumors he told all of our corners to transfer out.

About as immature as it gets if true. Coaches come and go. Just the way it is. No one’s fault our coach died and started this crazy mess we are in.

[Homedawg]

Don't they stop at second round and then after that they're kind of like enter the draft at your own risk?

Yes. The way they do it know they say yes enter the draft which is they are saying you're a top two rd pick. Or go back to school. Not a top 2.

[Homedawg]

I agree with you about his draft and we may have been going down a bad recruiting trail Leach, but you can’t argue with him winning 9 games his last year and I still feel we would have had a good season last year. It also seemed Leach was about to transition his offense a little with the QBs he was recruiting. Some part of me hates we won’t see it, but hopefully Lebby can take this offense to another level in the future.

CML wasn't transitioning his offense. He wanted parson bc he liked the way he threw it. It just so happened he was mobile. He didn't change his criteria of what he was looking for and wasn't changing how he was going to do things. He had his way and that's what he did. Trust me wasn't changing.

[Bdawg]

Yes. The way they do it know they say yes enter the draft which is they are saying you're a top two rd pick. Or go back to school. Not a top 2.

Seems a lot of our early entries ignore the “go back to school”

[Bdawg]

CML wasn't transitioning his offense. He wanted parson bc he liked the way he threw it. It just so happened he was mobile. He didn't change his criteria of what he was looking for and wasn't changing how he was going to do things. He had his way and that's what he did. Trust me wasn't changing.

I can agree with that. I’m sure he was set in his ways. But it seemed he started recruiting mobility too. Would like to have seen one year with a QB who could take off when needed. Believe it would have helped the offense a good bit. At least make the D account for the QB.

[PMDawg]

Yea ... everything about Leach sucked. I imagine for most folks you don't really have to repeat it another 1000 times to get your point across. They get it by now.

Repped.

[dawgday166]

No one knows what the hell CML was planning on doing or how he was possibly thinking of evolving his offense. I don't ... No one on this board does.

No one knows how good we would (or would not) have been last year, next year, etc

It would be outstanding IMO if we could just let the HOF Coach Rest "peacefully" in Peace.

[LC Dawg]

No one knows what the hell CML was planning on doing or how he was possibly thinking of evolving his offense. I don't ... No one on this board does.

No one knows how good we would (or would not) have been last year, next year, etc

It would be outstanding IMO if we could just let the HOF Coach Rest "peacefully" in Peace.

Hear, hear!

[preachermatt83]

No one knows what the hell CML was planning on doing or how he was possibly thinking of evolving his offense. I don't ... No one on this board does.

No one knows how good we would (or would not) have been last year, next year, etc

It would be outstanding IMO if we could just let the HOF Coach Rest "peacefully" in Peace.

Agreed. Bad mouthing a deceased coach who done a great job for our program is immature, embarrassing, sickening, and should be permanently ban worthy

[Cowbell]

Agreed. Bad mouthing a deceased coach who done a great job for our program is immature, embarrassing, sickening, and should be permanently ban worthy

Reading comprehension on this board is such a rare thing. The man never said anything negative about coach. He was stating what he knows is fact. You have been on this board long enough to realize Homedawg has access to things most of us don't. Quit being a drama Queen

[Pancho]

word

[Dawgology]

Heard Ole Miss enticed him then pulled his offer.

[confucius say]

Heard Ole Miss enticed him then pulled his offer.

They are struggling this week. Lost dcam, baron (high 4 star), and McDonald this week. All defensive guys. All highly rated. All transfer guys this cycle who were projected starters.

[Homedawg]

Heard Ole Miss enticed him then pulled his offer.

You been reading a genespage optimist ...

[preachermatt83]

Reading comprehension on this board is such a rare thing. The man never said anything negative about coach. He was stating what he knows is fact. You have been on this board long enough to realize Homedawg has access to things most of us don't. Quit being a drama Queen

What are you talking about? Nobody mentioned cowbell. Maybe stay in youre lane. You have no idea what you are talking about

[R2Dawg]

No one knows what the hell CML was planning on doing or how he was possibly thinking of evolving his offense. I don't ... No one on this board does.

No one knows how good we would (or would not) have been last year, next year, etc

It would be outstanding IMO if we could just let the HOF Coach Rest "peacefully" in Peace.

Well we have what 25-30 years of him doing the same thing so there is pretty good proof. Hope you are not a betting man.

On the RIP. All respect to CML the man, I liked a lot of things with him and what I saw was a good dude. As far as talking about on field stuff, nothing wrong with discussing all angles of that. Alive or gone, the good and bad is with all of us. I don't know why some are so thin skinned.

[Dawgology]

No. Just a rumor I heard.

[dawgday166]

Well we have what 25-30 years of him doing the same thing so there is pretty good proof. Hope you are not a betting man.

On the RIP. All respect to CML the man, I liked a lot of things with him and what I saw was a good dude. As far as talking about on field stuff, nothing wrong with discussing all angles of that. Alive or gone, the good and bad is with all of us. I don't know why some are so thin skinned.

Well ... Parsons doesn't appear to be his typical QB ... So there's that aspect. And constantly repeating the mantra Leach's recruiting sucked (which wasn't great but about like normal for us) doesn't get us anywhere either. Mullen didn't recruit well either.

CML wasn't perfect and not sure I agreed with everything he did but I was in wait and see mode for last year and the following years.

CML also did do at MSU what he always has done which is win games. I tend to believe he would figure out how to keep doing that. It may not have been always pretty but he won games.

And regardless of what anyone says, there are some here that Leach would never be able to anything right in their opinion, regardless .

And a lot of those just want to absolve last year's coaching staff of any responsibility at all too.

ETA: Not pointing specific fingers, just saying.

[Coach34]

Well ... Parsons doesn't appear to be his typical QB ... So there's that aspect. And constantly repeating the mantra Leach's recruiting sucked (which wasn't great but about like normal for us) doesn't get us anywhere either. Mullen didn't recruit well either.

Actually Mullen recruited very well. He kept putting players in the league. His 2018 team he buily was absolutely loaded. Mullen didnt recruit WR well or many highly rated OL guys. But they saw raw talent that wasnt highly rated coming out of HS

I mention that about Leach because he simply didnt recruit that well at State in his short time here. Did he make it work for him? Absolutely. But you can see by the way Lebbo is having to completely retool the roster it wasnt left in the greatest of shape. Thats just a fact

[MaroonFlounder]

Actually Mullen recruited very well. He kept putting players in the league. His 2018 team he buily was absolutely loaded. Mullen didnt recruit WR well or many highly rated OL guys. But they saw raw talent that wasnt highly rated coming out of HS

I mention that about Leach because he simply didnt recruit that well at State in his short time here. Did he make it work for him? Absolutely. But you can see by the way Lebbo is having to completely retool the roster it wasnt left in the greatest of shape. Thats just a fact

Or it's a product of the transfer portal and immediate eligibility elsewhere.

[Homedawg]

No one knows what the hell CML was planning on doing or how he was possibly thinking of evolving his offense. I don't ... No one on this board does.

No one knows how good we would (or would not) have been last year, next year, etc

It would be outstanding IMO if we could just let the HOF Coach Rest "peacefully" in Peace.

I do. I asked him. To his face. He thought running the qb was dumb. His answer not mine. I didn't make it up. If you asked the man a question you got an honest answer. He recruitd parson to pass. Not to change his philosophy. The fact he could tuck and run was a bonus. Nothing more nothing less

[Homedawg]

Agreed. Bad mouthing a deceased coach who done a great job for our program is immature, embarrassing, sickening, and should be permanently ban worthy

Who bad mouthed him?? Not me. Look dude I hung out w him. My comment was based on fact. No conjecture. And it wasn't criticizing him. I have. His recruiting. He didn't like it. Didn't work at it and it shows. Sorry but it's true. But my previous post was informing not criticizing.

[Coach34]

Who bad mouthed him?? Not me. Look dude I hung out w him. My comment was based on fact. No conjecture. And it wasn't criticizing him. I have. His recruiting. He didn't like it. Didn't work at it and it shows. Sorry but it's true. But my previous post was informing not criticizing.

Same. I’ve never said one bad thing about him personally. Loved his personality. Critiquing his job as coach is not off limits. Just like it wouldn’t be for Bobby Bowden or Vince Dooley

[R2Dawg]

Well ... Parsons doesn't appear to be his typical QB ... So there's that aspect. And constantly repeating the mantra Leach's recruiting sucked (which wasn't great but about like normal for us) doesn't get us anywhere either. Mullen didn't recruit well either.

CML wasn't perfect and not sure I agreed with everything he did but I was in wait and see mode for last year and the following years.

CML also did do at MSU what he always has done which is win games. I tend to believe he would figure out how to keep doing that. It may not have been always pretty but he won games.

And regardless of what anyone says, there are some here that Leach would never be able to anything right in their opinion, regardless .

And a lot of those just want to absolve last year's coaching staff of any responsibility at all too.

ETA: Not pointing specific fingers, just saying.

Leach got best available QB, he wasn't after a running QB. How do I know? He had an experienced QB in Shradder that he moved to WR. That is how I know. If he wanted to tweak his approach he had the perfect formula to do it and at MSU too.

MSU his last year was kinda like OM this year but OM had a better year. OM was 4 plays from being 6-6. The 9 win season I don't think we beat more than 1 team with a winning record. We and OM took advantage of a down year so to speak. We still won 9 games, just not as dramatic as some want it to be. We've had teams only win 7 games in a 11 game season that were way better than that last 9 win team.

[Pancho]

And Lebby can put a much better product on the field in 24 and still struggle to win 6.

[dawgday166]

Leach got best available QB, he wasn't after a running QB. How do I know? He had an experienced QB in Shradder that he moved to WR. That is how I know. If he wanted to tweak his approach he had the perfect formula to do it and at MSU too.

MSU his last year was kinda like OM this year but OM had a better year. OM was 4 plays from being 6-6. The 9 win season I don't think we beat more than 1 team with a winning record. We and OM took advantage of a down year so to speak. We still won 9 games, just not as dramatic as some want it to be. We've had teams only win 7 games in a 11 game season that were way better than that last 9 win team.

What I was really trying to get across is that, while I didn't agree with everything Leach did, I was waiting to see how it evolved especially when it comes to winning games. On recruiting, I know he didn't like it but ultimately he had to win games and would have to adapt to transfer portal and NIL (I thought he might not do that well in all honesty). But I was still in wait and see mode due to his track record of winning and doing more with much less.

Schrader isn't his type of QB cause he's a run first QB. Hard to get that out of a QB. FWIW ...Saban, Smart, Kelly, and Heupel ain't looking for run first QBs either (Saban did take Hurts tho). Mobile, but not "primary receiver covered ... run" type of QBs. Accuracy is premium with all 5 coaches.

Not gonna keep debating all this. JMHO.

[Coach34]

Nobody wants a run first QB anymore except Navy

[Todd4State]

CML wasn't transitioning his offense. He wanted parson bc he liked the way he threw it. It just so happened he was mobile. He didn't change his criteria of what he was looking for and wasn't changing how he was going to do things. He had his way and that's what he did. Trust me wasn't changing.


Well ... Parsons doesn't appear to be his typical QB ... So there's that aspect. And constantly repeating the mantra Leach's recruiting sucked (which wasn't great but about like normal for us) doesn't get us anywhere either. Mullen didn't recruit well either.

CML wasn't perfect and not sure I agreed with everything he did but I was in wait and see mode for last year and the following years.

CML also did do at MSU what he always has done which is win games. I tend to believe he would figure out how to keep doing that. It may not have been always pretty but he won games.

And regardless of what anyone says, there are some here that Leach would never be able to anything right in their opinion, regardless .

And a lot of those just want to absolve last year's coaching staff of any responsibility at all too.

ETA: Not pointing specific fingers, just saying.


I do. I asked him. To his face. He thought running the qb was dumb. His answer not mine. I didn't make it up. If you asked the man a question you got an honest answer. He recruitd parson to pass. Not to change his philosophy. The fact he could tuck and run was a bonus. Nothing more nothing less

It's true that Leach wouldn't have changed the offense as far as plays go other than a few minor tweaks here and there. What would have changed with Parson is:

1. We would have thrown the ball downfield more. Which would have led to a more explosive offense.

2. Because of Parson's mobility he would have been able to buy himself more time than Will and would have scrambled more. Which would have also helped the offense without changing it very much.

Parson would have killed it in Leach's offense. The good news is he will also kill it in Lebby's offense. Or at least he has the skill set to. I'm not going to totally rule out him being beat out by Van Buren or even Kamario Taylor. That said, I do think he would be the front runner for the back up spot for this year and eventually starts.

[Todd4State]

Actually Mullen recruited very well. He kept putting players in the league. His 2018 team he buily was absolutely loaded. Mullen didnt recruit WR well or many highly rated OL guys. But they saw raw talent that wasnt highly rated coming out of HS

I mention that about Leach because he simply didnt recruit that well at State in his short time here. Did he make it work for him? Absolutely. But you can see by the way Lebbo is having to completely retool the roster it wasnt left in the greatest of shape. Thats just a fact


In other words Dan didn't recruit that well either. And you could say the same thing about him with Fitz as you could about Leach and Will and making it work. Just the opposite extreme with as far as running QB and passing QB.

We're re-tooling right now because we had a bunch of seniors and a bunch of guys recruited for another offense. Since Alabama has a ton of guys leaving I guess your argument is that Bama didn't recruit well either? Players go to certain schools to play for a Leach or a Saban. When legends leave the players left are not going to stick around to play in another scheme that doesn't fit them. And coaches don't have to keep them and can get players that do fit. Welcome to the portal era.

[Todd4State]

And Lebby can put a much better product on the field in 24 and still struggle to win 6.

If we can increase our offensive production by seven points per game or more we absolutely could win 8.

Following up that absolute shitshow of an offense that Barbay had last year I think that's very possible.

[Coach34]

In other words Dan didn't recruit that well either. .

Well no. Dan recruited really damn well except at the WR position. Shit- the SEC defensive POY this year was recruited by him.

[Todd4State]

Well no. Dan recruited really damn well except at the WR position. Shit- the SEC defensive POY this year was recruited by him.

His defensive staff recruited well. Even you admitted in the earlier post that we struggled with o-line recruiting. We had to switch people from DL and TE at times to cover for it. We were hit or miss at RB. Remember when Holloway started? Aside from Dak his QB's were mostly pretty limited as passers. Good runners at QB which is what he wanted. But aside from Dak not having a very good passing QB affected his offense negatively.

[Todd4State]

https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/active-nfl-players-by-college/mississippi-state/91211

Look at the players that we have in the NFL and what positions they play. The vast majority are defensive players. And I don't believe Cross and Phillips were recruited by Dan either. Gabe Jackson was signed by Croom I believe or at least committed to Croom.

[Coach34]

His defensive staff recruited well. Even you admitted in the earlier post that we struggled with o-line recruiting. We had to switch people from DL and TE at times to cover for it. We were hit or miss at RB. Remember when Holloway started? Aside from Dak his QB's were mostly pretty limited as passers. Good runners at QB which is what he wanted. But aside from Dak not having a very good passing QB affected his offense negatively.

They struggled with highly rated OL recruits. He and Hev were probably the best in the country in finding guys that just needed time to develop. That 2015 OL was a black mark for sure. Fitz is one of the best QB's in SEC history. I say we were limited at WR way more than QB. Fitz had no problem getting the ball to Fred Ross- he caught 72 passes in 2016. Mullen recruited very well to State outside of the WR position

[Coach34]

https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/active-nfl-players-by-college/mississippi-state/91211

Look at the players that we have in the NFL and what positions they play. The vast majority are defensive players. And I don't believe Cross and Phillips were recruited by Dan either. Gabe Jackson was signed by Croom I believe or at least committed to Croom.

lol- Mullen/Hev recruited Cross and reeled him in for JoVester. Mullen/Hev signed Phillips and RS'ed him out of juco

[dawgday166]

lol- Mullen/Hev recruited Cross and reeled him in for JoVester. Mullen/Hev signed Phillips and RS'ed him out of juco

They recruited Rankin not Cross. JoMo got Cross in the boat. Cross left after his soph year.

ETA: Rankin was very good his senior year (came out of Juco), got drafted and played for 3 years in the league.

[Coach34]

They recruited Rankin not Cross. JoMo got Cross in the boat. Cross left after his soph year.

ETA: Rankin was very good his senior year (came out of Juco), got drafted and played for 3 years in the league.

Thats right- he left after his RS Soph year

[Todd4State]

They struggled with highly rated OL recruits. He and Hev were probably the best in the country in finding guys that just needed time to develop. That 2015 OL was a black mark for sure. Fitz is one of the best QB's in SEC history. I say we were limited at WR way more than QB. Fitz had no problem getting the ball to Fred Ross- he caught 72 passes in 2016. Mullen recruited very well to State outside of the WR position

Ross was recruited by Les Koenning and Tim Brewster I believe. And was only a NFL invite/practice squad guy. Fitzgerald had a completion percentage 54.3% in 2016 and it actually improved to 55% by 2017 without Ross. Both completion percentages are not very good by today's modern standards. Fitz was one of the best rushing QB's in SEC history. As a passer he was pretty limited. And no Hev wasn't the best in the country at finding guys at all. Hell- he had one class where none of his o-line recruits qualified. He literally found Elgton Jenkins and that's about it- you're talking about a guy in Rankin who had a cup of coffee in the league and Phillips who isn't a star. Which still pales in comparison to what Dan recruited on the defensive side of the ball.

[Todd4State]

They recruited Rankin not Cross. JoMo got Cross in the boat. Cross left after his soph year.

ETA: Rankin was very good his senior year (came out of Juco), got drafted and played for 3 years in the league.

Yes because I remember how fans were talking about how Hevesy passed on Cross because he was committed to FSU and then Joe came in and flipped him.

[dawgday166]

Yes because I remember how fans were talking about how Hevesy passed on Cross because he was committed to FSU and then Joe came in and flipped him.

That would've been Cross as a 10th grader then. Hev was gone from MSU after '17. Cross is a '19 recruit.