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CaptainObvious
01-11-2024, 12:54 AM
Who does he call first? Does he call someone he thinks will take the job and is his first choice or does he call 2 or 3 coaches to gauge their possible interest under the guise of asking them who they think would be a good fit for Alabama?

They ain't hiring a coordinator.
They ain't hiring an old guy.
They ain't hiring an unsuccessful guy.
They ain't hiring an inexperienced Head Coach.
They might hire a coach currently in the Pros.
But we know they are going to go after the best experienced coach that Byrne thinks will take the job for the money, prestige, and yes, even the challenge.


Now who fits that last description?

DownwardDawg
01-11-2024, 01:03 AM
There is a long list that fits that last description.

parabrave
01-11-2024, 01:32 AM
Mullen to Bama. He can't fold to a team if he has he A on his chest! Harbaugh going to the Pros.

Todd4State
01-11-2024, 01:34 AM
There is a long list that fits that last description.

I'd guess there are only about 5-6 coaches that realistically fit that description.

DownwardDawg
01-11-2024, 01:38 AM
I'd guess there are only about 5-6 coaches that realistically fit that description.

Experienced coach that Byrne thinks would take the job for the money, prestige, and challenge. That would be a long list of Head coaches. The most egotistical folks in America.

TNDawg35
01-11-2024, 04:21 AM
I bet Burn aint making the hire. I'm sure Saban had his say in it.

viverlibre
01-11-2024, 05:59 AM
Who does he call first? Does he call someone he thinks will take the job and is his first choice or does he call 2 or 3 coaches to gauge their possible interest under the guise of asking them who they think would be a good fit for Alabama?


They ain't hiring an inexperienced Head Coach. Lanning has two years HC experience



By many accounts Norvell and Lanning are the top two candidates. Sark ain't leaving Texas and Demeco Ryans isn't leaving the Texans. DeBoar has no SEC experience. Dabo, although only 54, has lost his fast ball and been slow to adapt to NIL/Portal. Lane is too immature and did not have a graceful departure from Bama. Saban always put the program ahead of himself, he lived Alabama football.

The first characteristic Bryne listed is, "strong in recruiting." Norvell and Lanning fit that category.

Maroonthirteen
01-11-2024, 08:28 AM
Does Byrne retain the ninja title if Lanning is hired?

If they keep the retirement under wraps and hired Lanning before the news of the retirement broke, the ninja lives on.

DawgFromOxford
01-11-2024, 09:45 AM
My guess is it's already all been worked out. No way Byrne didn't know this was coming

Saltydog
01-11-2024, 09:56 AM
I just don't get all Lanning love.......Just not enough proven H/C experience there if I'm calling the shots...........I'd rather have Lane than him......

viverlibre
01-11-2024, 10:08 AM
I just don't get all Lanning love.......Just not enough proven H/C experience there if I'm calling the shots...........I'd rather have Lane than him......

He's made some boneheaded in game decisions and only has two years experience at a stop were everyone has success.

Lane is not getting the Bama job unless they miss on 4 or 5 candidates. He's too immature, Saban always put the program ahead of himself. Lane draws too much attention to himself.

Maroonthirteen
01-11-2024, 10:21 AM
Yeah I'm not completely sold on Lanning either.

It's a solid hire to get a P5 coach but.... I'm expecting them to hire a huge huge name.

I get Kiffin has baggage and all the Twitter trolling he does (or some intern at OM does). But damn, he is a good gameday coach and that's tough to pass on.

Our MSU luck... it won't be Kiffin... it will be Dan Fn Mullen. Hahaha.

DesotoDog1967
01-11-2024, 10:23 AM
Lanning has a 20 million dollar buyout.

Maroonthirteen
01-11-2024, 10:26 AM
I'll say this.... remember on Alabama. I know it's a different world today... with so much exposure and money.

But it took them two hire/fires to get from Bear to Stallings. Then it took them 3 hire/fires from Stallings to Saban.

Saltydog
01-11-2024, 10:36 AM
He's made some boneheaded in game decisions and only has two years experience at a stop were everyone has success.

Lane is not getting the Bama job unless they miss on 4 or 5 candidates. He's too immature, Saban always put the program ahead of himself. Lane draws too much attention to himself.

That may very well be true but the game has changed and Kiffin has embraced it and players love him and he's a media sweetheart. I don't think they'll hire him but with Bama's talent they would be tough.

confucius say
01-11-2024, 10:37 AM
Bama is a great job but it's not better than several others in this new NIL/portal world. Many programs have more money than Bama.

Bama will see a drop off going forward, regardless if Saban stayed or the next guy. They already have, as they just went without a title for 3 straight years for the first time since Saban got there.

MagicDawg
01-11-2024, 11:00 AM
Arnett to Bama and he'll kick our butts for 20 years.

It's a joke, of course. But it would also be standard MSU luck.

Coursesuper
01-11-2024, 11:08 AM
My guess is it's already all been worked out. No way Byrne didn't know this was coming

This ^^^, plus why does anyone think that AD's make these hires on their own? There is a great deal of input from those that are paying the bills.

CaptainObvious
01-11-2024, 11:09 AM
Bama is a great job but it's not better than several others in this new NIL/portal world. Many programs have more money than Bama.

Bama will see a drop off going forward, regardless if Saban stayed or the next guy. They already have, as they just went without a title for 3 straight years for the first time since Saban got there.

But to your point, this looks like it needs to be a plug and play. History shows they don't like slow rebuilds and to them, 3 years without a title better not turn into 5 without a title. We can say things have changed all we want but WE ain't Alabama!
We can say the landscape has shifted and there are now many more programs with the clout and money to dethrone the darling of the SEC but those programs ain't Alabama. If Byrne wants to be there in 2 years, he better get the hire right. He wants to be SEC Commissioner in 5 years, he better get this hire right.

It may not be Kiffin, but there are fewer guys that Fanbase will accept than any of us may think.

Byrne may not be doing this hire alone, but it will be his head the natives come after if he gets it wrong.

I agree it is a high probability it is a Saban Disciple!

CaptainObvious
01-11-2024, 11:19 AM
Now we know why Urban and Stoops decided not to take the State Job!

BrunswickDawg
01-11-2024, 11:42 AM
Bama is a great job but it's not better than several others in this new NIL/portal world. Many programs have more money than Bama.

Bama will see a drop off going forward, regardless if Saban stayed or the next guy. They already have, as they just went without a title for 3 straight years for the first time since Saban got there.

No programs spend as much as Bama on Football. None. Bama spent $78.5m on football alone in '22. Washington spent the next highest at $70.4m, then Ohio St at $69m and UGA at $61.7m.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e2472a17

Meanwhile, our $29 million is 12th lowest in P5

CaptainObvious
01-11-2024, 11:46 AM
No programs spend as much as Bama on Football. None. Bama spent $78.5m on football alone in '22. Washington spent the next highest at $70.4m, then Ohio St at $69m and UGA at $61.7m.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e2472a17

Meanwhile, our $29 million is 12th lowest in P5

Wait. We have a $130M Athletics budget and we only spent $29M on Football? No wonder we suck at it. It cost $10M a season just to get team, equipment and support staff to the 4 to 5 road games.

BrunswickDawg
01-11-2024, 11:48 AM
Wait. We have a $130M Athletics budget and we only spent $29M on Football? No wonder we suck at it. It cost $10M a season just to get team, equipment and support staff to the 4 to 5 road games.

No. In '22 we had a $110m athletics budget and $29m was spent on football. I think the $130m estimate is what we will have when the new TV contract kicks in next year.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/sec/mississippi-state-university

Johnson85
01-11-2024, 11:58 AM
No programs spend as much as Bama on Football. None. Bama spent $78.5m on football alone in '22. Washington spent the next highest at $70.4m, then Ohio St at $69m and UGA at $61.7m.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e2472a17

Meanwhile, our $29 million is 12th lowest in P5

It still comes down to players and for the first time, Bama will actually be at a disadvantage when it comes to paying players. When payments were under the table, what mattered was having crazy committed boosters with money. Now that NIL is here, schools like Texas and UGA, which have a much broader swath of alumni that are well off and/or rich and willing to contribute to NIL when they weren't willing to make under the table payments will have an advantage over Bama.

Coursesuper
01-11-2024, 12:04 PM
It still comes down to players and for the first time, Bama will actually be at a disadvantage when it comes to paying players. When payments were under the table, what mattered was having crazy committed boosters with money. Now that NIL is here, schools like Texas and UGA, which have a much broader swath of alumni that are well off and/or rich and willing to contribute to NIL when they weren't willing to make under the table payments will have an advantage over Bama.

The Bammers have two families that if committed can outspend virtually anyone.

confucius say
01-11-2024, 01:05 PM
No programs spend as much as Bama on Football. None. Bama spent $78.5m on football alone in '22. Washington spent the next highest at $70.4m, then Ohio St at $69m and UGA at $61.7m.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e2472a17

Meanwhile, our $29 million is 12th lowest in P5

I meant NIL money. Bama doesn't have state of Texas money.

Coursesuper
01-11-2024, 01:06 PM
I meant NIL money. Bama doesn't have state of Texas money.

Yes they do.

confucius say
01-11-2024, 01:16 PM
Yes they do.

No. They don't. The Texas schools have more potential access to money than anybody in the country, both as a program (the two largest budgets) and NIL. Way more wealth in Texas.

Coursesuper
01-11-2024, 01:21 PM
No. They don't. The Texas schools have more potential access to money than anybody in the country, both as a program (the two largest budgets) and NIL. Way more wealth in Texas.

you need to check your dm

FISHDAWG
01-11-2024, 01:24 PM
Bill Bellecek just became available..... nah, not a chance

confucius say
01-11-2024, 01:30 PM
you need to check your dm

I did. Tried to respond but not sure it went through. I get that. But Texas has multiple companies in the same industry much bigger.

Matt3467
01-11-2024, 02:01 PM
No programs spend as much as Bama on Football. None. Bama spent $78.5m on football alone in '22. Washington spent the next highest at $70.4m, then Ohio St at $69m and UGA at $61.7m.
https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e2472a17

Meanwhile, our $29 million is 12th lowest in P5

I was shocked to see OM in the top 10. It's a shame they double our spending on football.

Coursesuper
01-11-2024, 03:25 PM
I did. Tried to respond but not sure it went through. I get that. But Texas has multiple companies in the same industry much bigger.

I replied, let just say there is a lot that you aren't aware of and people that want things that way.

Bdawg
01-11-2024, 04:09 PM
I was shocked to see OM in the top 10. It's a shame they double our spending on football.

That’s pathetic. The cash cow should get what it needs

SPMT
01-11-2024, 04:16 PM
That?s pathetic. The cash cow should get what it needs

It is. Most lawyers done make any more than engineers and many docs don?t. For every specialist doc you have a ton of general practitioners making $200.

parabrave
01-11-2024, 04:57 PM
It is. Most lawyers done make any more than engineers and many docs don?t. For every specialist doc you have a ton of general practitioners making $200.

He is right. But remember 2 lawsuits worth billions that have ole miss lawyers involved in, Tobacco and Asbestos.

Coursesuper
01-11-2024, 05:24 PM
He is right. But remember 2 lawsuits worth billions that have ole miss lawyers involved in, Tobacco and Asbestos.

One of them I know for a fact was at one time a very very large donee for the athletic department. He was providing funding enough to pay for a none major sport by himself.

parabrave
01-11-2024, 06:26 PM
One of them I know for a fact was at one time a very very large donee for the athletic department. He was providing funding enough to pay for a none major sport by himself.

And I bet his last name isn't Scruggs and has an office around Ingalls.

CaptainObvious
01-11-2024, 10:21 PM
There are a lot of doctors and lawyers who are Mississippi State fans and donors. I just don't think our university works these guys and gals like Ole Miss does.

SPMT
01-11-2024, 10:47 PM
He is right. But remember 2 lawsuits worth billions that have ole miss lawyers involved in, Tobacco and Asbestos.

True

SPMT
01-11-2024, 10:48 PM
There are a lot of doctors and lawyers who are Mississippi State fans and donors. I just don't think our university works these guys and gals like Ole Miss does.

Also true. We also don’t have a fan base that is as much concerned with “keeping up”. A lot of peer pressure in rebel town.

DesotoDog1967
01-12-2024, 11:21 AM
Sark said no. Nobody wants it, do they?

BrunswickDawg
01-12-2024, 11:28 AM
Sark said no. Nobody wants it, do they?

Following The Man is a hard task.

parabrave
01-12-2024, 11:30 AM
Sark said no. Nobody wants it, do they?

Whoever gets it will have the biggest golden parachute in history because they will never reach the expectations of those crazies. They are getting a pallet of bricks delivered to the Bama athletic office for future use. There was a reason Saban left he saw the future.

ScoobaDawg
01-12-2024, 12:31 PM
Following The Man is a hard task.

Following the man... who will have an office in the stadium and says he will get on the players if they arent living up to the standard.
He's gonna be constantly around...so the coach is gonna be looking over his shoulder...

DesotoDog1967
01-12-2024, 12:40 PM
See now the talk is in house, Mike Locksley

Turfdawg67
01-12-2024, 02:03 PM
But I thought the Ninja already knew this was going down and had someone lined up.

DownwardDawg
01-12-2024, 02:13 PM
But I thought the Ninja already knew this was going down and had someone lined up.

He probably does. Nobody knows shit.

CaptainObvious
01-12-2024, 05:12 PM
The Bama Investors dient make this hire. The Ninja did.

RocketDawg
01-12-2024, 05:48 PM
Sark said no. Nobody wants it, do they?

Who's it going to be? I heard DeBoer was working out the final details with them.