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Coach34
01-06-2024, 12:02 PM
Huge 1st game to start SEC play
Coach34
01-06-2024, 12:07 PM
SC undefeated at home enttering today
somebodyshotmypaw
01-06-2024, 12:09 PM
Jeffries with a three he shouldn’t have taken
somebodyshotmypaw
01-06-2024, 12:11 PM
Bell pushing folks around with his big body
Coach34
01-06-2024, 12:12 PM
defending great early
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:14 PM
We can play D
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 12:14 PM
Incredible defensive intensity and rotations
somebodyshotmypaw
01-06-2024, 12:15 PM
Love the defense.
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 12:20 PM
Man that defense is ratcheted up
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:25 PM
Jans falls in love with jones too much. We seem to lose a lot of lead with him on the court
RockyDog
01-06-2024, 12:25 PM
DJ doesn’t need to touch the ball on the offensive end of the floor
RockyDog
01-06-2024, 12:27 PM
Jans falls in love with jones too much. We seem to lose a lot of lead with him on the court
Yep. He’s a loose ball player that gets his points off junk and putbacks. He’s getting way too many minutes. For some reason he’s become first off the bench and it has cut into Hubbard’s minutes some
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 12:28 PM
DJ doesn’t need to touch the ball on the offensive end of the floor
I do not mind DJ on the floor, even on the offensive end. He just needs to stop trying to create too much. In his defense though, it seems we only look to him when the shot clock gets below 7
SailingDawg
01-06-2024, 12:29 PM
So Tolu gets Bell?s playing time? Is there not a scheme where they compliment each other on the floor?
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:30 PM
Let's just keep dunking and letting them shoot 3s
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:30 PM
Jans, get jones out. F
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:31 PM
Davis, SMH
LC Dawg
01-06-2024, 12:31 PM
I wish we could get more of that from DJ.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:33 PM
I feel like I got kicked in the nuts every time we give up an off reb under the basket. I just never expect it to happen haha
Coach34
01-06-2024, 12:33 PM
we are attacking the basket and forcing them into long 3's. That is who we are and should be
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 12:34 PM
Jans falls in love with jones too much. We seem to lose a lot of lead with him on the court
The 3 spot is our Achilles heel. Most teams have a 3 that can shoot. Jans needs to experiment with a 3 guard lineup.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:34 PM
we are attacking the basket and forcing them into long 3's. That is who we are and should be
Yeah, I like the style of this game. Don't expect them to hit those long 3s all game
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:36 PM
That's the foul they were gonna get rid of this season. Sec refs say no
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:38 PM
They're bullying us now
RocketDawg
01-06-2024, 12:38 PM
It took South Carolina 13 game minutes to make a 2-point shot.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:38 PM
These refs
Dawgology
01-06-2024, 12:40 PM
These refs can eat a dick
Leeshouldveflanked
01-06-2024, 12:41 PM
Home cooking so far .
LC Dawg
01-06-2024, 12:43 PM
Tolu needs to take over.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:44 PM
South Carolina is favored by God in this game. We are much better, but things are really going their way to hang with us.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:47 PM
I wish I could get back to a point where I can enjoy games. When I have expectations for one of my teams, watching the games is stressful AF.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:49 PM
Such a stupid foul, tolu... he was beat
Saltydog
01-06-2024, 12:53 PM
Huge 1st game to start SEC play
Offensively we're gonna struggle bad in league play.....Just not enough shooters..........Pathetic effort to end the half.......
Leeshouldveflanked
01-06-2024, 12:53 PM
Not a good last 5 minutes of half
SteelCurtain74
01-06-2024, 12:54 PM
Announcer " Not a great shot by Jeffries." Welcome to our world
trob115
01-06-2024, 12:55 PM
Refs are inconsistent at best this game. Sloppy first half and we are still in it.
Joebob
01-06-2024, 12:55 PM
Our offense is atrocious.
somebodyshotmypaw
01-06-2024, 12:55 PM
Announcer " Not a great shot by Jeffries." Welcome to our world
Jeffries with two bad, unexplainable three point attempts in the first half.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:56 PM
Considering jans isn't a good recruiter, have we seen Jans' ceiling? A lock down D team that will make tournies, but no threat to go far bc of offense. I'm really disappointed with this first half
msstate7
01-06-2024, 12:58 PM
Refs are inconsistent at best this game. Sloppy first half and we are still in it.
The BS call on Hubbard (supposed to be gone this season) following by a touch foul on cam beyond the 3 line changed the game
RockyDog
01-06-2024, 12:58 PM
If they aren’t gonna let Hubbard get in a groove then this is the same team as last year. Can’t hit shit
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 01:02 PM
Considering jans isn't a good recruiter, have we seen Jans' ceiling? A lock down D team that will make tournies, but no threat to go far bc of offense. I'm really disappointed with this first half
It is our second true road game of the season and we are only down 2 against a team that has banked in two 3’s, been bailed out by the refs multiple times, and we have made some stupid mistakes. We will be fine.
The biggest problem right now is that outside of Hubbard we do not have another consistent 3 point threat. That was supposed to be Taylor but since he is AWOL with no signs of actually giving us a meaningful minute this year, we need someone to step up. Whether that be Fort, Jones, Moore, or Davis we need a couple of them to hit a couple of 3s a game to go along with Hubbard’s 3 or 4 a game.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:04 PM
It is our second true road game of the season and we are only down 2 against a team that has banked in two 3’s, been bailed out by the refs multiple times, and we have made some stupid mistakes. We will be fine.
The biggest problem right now is that outside of Hubbard we do not have another consistent 3 point threat. That was supposed to be Taylor but since he is AWOL with no signs of actually giving us a meaningful minute this year, we need someone to step up. Whether that be Fort, Jones, Moore, or Davis we need a couple of them to hit a couple of 3s a game to go along with Hubbard’s 3 or 4 a game.
Jans won't make any sacrifice of defense for offense, so that's why I'm questioning? Taylor is 40% from 3 this year
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:09 PM
We're getting beat on the boards? Damn, that's pretty unacceptable for us with the way we play
somebodyshotmypaw
01-06-2024, 01:09 PM
Jans won't make any sacrifice of defense for offense, so that's why I'm questioning? Taylor is 40% from 3 this year
Taylor didn’t make the trip.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:10 PM
Bell isn't very good today
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:14 PM
Might want to guard 10
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:14 PM
Jans is getting worked
msugolf
01-06-2024, 01:18 PM
Time to start Hubbard over Davis. That?s the only way this team can get anywhere. Appreciate what Davis has done but he?s extremely limited when facing more athletic teams and he knows it/plays like it.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:19 PM
Considering jans isn't a good recruiter, have we seen Jans' ceiling? A lock down D team that will make tournies, but no threat to go far bc of offense. I'm really disappointed with this first half
To answer my own question, if we can hold Hubbard, I think there's still some ceiling for jans. Hubbard could be his teddy allen
Leeshouldveflanked
01-06-2024, 01:20 PM
Jans won't make any sacrifice of defense for offense, so that's why I'm questioning? Taylor is 40% from 3 this year
I dont think Taylor is on the team anymore
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:21 PM
I don?t think Taylor is on the team anymore
This wasn't in reference to today... Taylor is gone bc there will be play for Taylor bc of defense.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:22 PM
No you dip shit, point of reference was less off fouls
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:24 PM
We are getting punked
LC Dawg
01-06-2024, 01:25 PM
Fort played a lot in the last game and shot it well. Seems like we would give him some shots since Hubbard is our only guy playing that can shoot.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:25 PM
Cam Matthews is getting beat on boards and turning ball over
Leeshouldveflanked
01-06-2024, 01:28 PM
Being outrebounded by 7 so far.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:28 PM
Come on dawgs... we are -7 in rebounding. If we don't own this stat from here out, we will be 0-1
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:29 PM
Being outrebounded by 7 so far.
Unacceptable
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:29 PM
How the hell can we not rebound!!????
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:30 PM
We're playing the ugliest style in the country on purpose, and SC is punking us at our own ugly ass style
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 01:31 PM
Do our players have shorter arms than theirs??
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:32 PM
They are killing on the offensive glass and getting us in foul trouble after the rebound. And as I type another offensive rebound off the missed FT.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:32 PM
Do our players have shorter arms than theirs??
Smaller hearts
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:33 PM
That’s a freaking horrible call!!!!
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:33 PM
That's a BS foul when the offense initiates the contact.
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 01:34 PM
They are killing on the offensive glass and getting us in foul trouble after the rebound. And as I type another offensive rebound off the missed FT.
We can't secure the ball. Unreal.
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 01:34 PM
That might be ballgame.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:35 PM
16-8 state in fouls.
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 01:35 PM
That's a BS foul when the offense initiates the contact.
horrible call, but it was off another offensive rebound.
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 01:35 PM
Basketball sucks
Saltydog
01-06-2024, 01:35 PM
same shit, different day........And for as good as SC's record is, they're going to be the shit beat outta them in the league.......They aren't that good......
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:35 PM
We can't secure the ball. Unreal.
That's the difference in the game. We are getting one shot per trip while they are often getting multiple possessions because of their rebounding. They also have better 3 point shooting which is an advantage.
msugolf
01-06-2024, 01:36 PM
Jans just is not an offensive minded coach. Never has been. Knew this when we got him. He?s always won ugly with defense. Not a very entertaining style
RockyDog
01-06-2024, 01:36 PM
The shine is off the dentist. We need an offensive minded coach. Go get someone, Selmon
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:36 PM
same shit, different day........And for as good as SC's record is, they're going to be the shit beat outta them in the league.......They aren't that good......
Not sure if they are good or not but they are WAY better than they were last year.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:36 PM
same shit, different day........And for as good as SC's record is, they're going to be the shit beat outta them in the league.......They aren't that good......
Neither are we. Jans wants to win 60-57.
PMDawg
01-06-2024, 01:36 PM
Can't rebound, can't score easy buckets down low, can't guard a 3, can't quit fouling. NIT bound baby!!
SailingDawg
01-06-2024, 01:37 PM
Road conference wins are a rarity. It?s hard to watch a competitive game be taken away by home ref advantage.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:38 PM
Jans just is not an offensive minded coach. Never has been. Knew this when we got him. He?s always won ugly with defense. Not a very entertaining style
I wish he had at least given Taylor a shot at playing more offense. He ran off a 40% 3 shooter
Activated Alpha
01-06-2024, 01:38 PM
Life has been much more enjoyable reading the forums of our basketball games rather than watching them. I just get plain angry while watching State play athletics and my wife has told me to just let it go before it ruins the weekend day for me.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:38 PM
Neither are we. Jans wants to win 60-57.
This defense isn't going to hold many SEC teams to below 60. Especially if our defensive rebounding doesn't get a lot better.
RockyDog
01-06-2024, 01:39 PM
And now Ole Miss is passing us by in hoops too. Our whole athletic dept is a disaster
civildawg
01-06-2024, 01:39 PM
Frick this team man. This is the same exact team as last year except when Hubbard is on fire
PMDawg
01-06-2024, 01:39 PM
Road conference wins are a rarity. It?s hard to watch a competitive game be taken away by home ref advantage.
We'll see how rare they are next week.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:39 PM
How many pump fakes are we going to go for???
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 01:40 PM
Jans just is not an offensive minded coach. Never has been. Knew this when we got him. He?s always won ugly with defense. Not a very entertaining style
Our 3 man shoots 24% from 3. Our 4 man shoots letts than 10%. That makes it tough. Teams are just sagging. Then Shak and Davis aren't great from 3 either.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:40 PM
And now Ole Miss is passing us by in hoops too. Our whole athletic dept is a disaster
I like Jans, but beard is so much better. They aren't even comparable
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:40 PM
Our 3 man shoots 24% from 3. Our 4 man shoots letts than 10%. That makes it tough. Teams are just sagging. Then Shak and Davis aren't great from 3 either.
Let's run off a 40% 3 shooter
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:41 PM
How many pump fakes are we going to go for???
More
parabrave
01-06-2024, 01:42 PM
Why is Hubbard on the Fing Bench??
BuckyIsAB****
01-06-2024, 01:42 PM
Let's run off a 40% 3 shooter
And we are paying his grandkids bills on top of it. P5 college athletics is the worst thing going rn
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:42 PM
Every game in the SEC is going to be a grind. That's why it was such a major disaster to lose to Southern.
civildawg
01-06-2024, 01:43 PM
College basketball refs are going to be the death of college basketball
Dawgology
01-06-2024, 01:43 PM
Selmon is going to have some work to do this off-season once again. Just remember how we always take the perceived high moral road when it comes to coaching hires…as Ole Miss leaves our athletic program in the dust. Y’all get ready to enjoy the G5 in a few years.
RockyDog
01-06-2024, 01:46 PM
Selmon is going to have some work to do this off-season once again. Just remember how we always take the perceived high moral road when it comes to coaching hires…as Ole Miss leaves our athletic program in the dust. Y’all get ready to enjoy the G5 in a few years.
Yep. We deserve the AAC if we don’t make changes to our mindset
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 01:46 PM
College basketball refs are going to be the death of college basketball
I wish they would.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:46 PM
Jans isn't going anywhere unless he leaves on his own. You guys are losing it. He got a team into the NCAAs last year that shouldn't have even been NIT worthy.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:46 PM
And now the refs see they've completely F'd up the fouls, so try to even them even though the damage to us is done
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 01:46 PM
Let's run off a 40% 3 shooter
Taylor wasn't a fit. That was a big miss by the BI and Jans. All of that money needed to go to a 3 man. We are badly in need of a wing who can shoot. Jones just passed up on a wide open 3 b/c he doesn't have confidence in his shot.
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 01:47 PM
College basketball refs are going to be the death of college basketball
amen to that. They have never heard of a no call.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:47 PM
Selmon is going to have some work to do this off-season once again. Just remember how we always take the perceived high moral road when it comes to coaching hires…as Ole Miss leaves our athletic program in the dust. Y’all get ready to enjoy the G5 in a few years.
If that guy did beat his wife or whatever it was……F him. He hasn’t been exonerated, correct?
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:48 PM
Jans isn't going anywhere unless he leaves on his own. You guys are losing it. He got a team into the NCAAs last year that shouldn't have even been NIT worthy.
I don't want him going anywhere. He will get us in tournies, which is no small deal. We just won't play an entertaining style. I'd extend him after this train wreck if he'd sign
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 01:48 PM
Jans is gonna end up stuck at State.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:49 PM
They just want the rebounds more that we do.
Leeshouldveflanked
01-06-2024, 01:50 PM
Let's run off a 40% 3 shooter
Seems Taylor has issues outside of Basketball
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:50 PM
Thank goodness for SC turnovers because we can't buy a freakin' rebound.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:52 PM
Seems Taylor has issues outside of Basketball
Maybe that's why I want him... I have issue outside of everything
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:52 PM
Hey, Matthews got us an Offensive Rebound.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:52 PM
Thank goodness for SC turnovers because we can't buy a freakin' rebound.
Infuriating
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:52 PM
We got to have you Hubbard!!! I haven’t seen him hit a 3 yet
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:53 PM
FT shooting rearing its head.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:53 PM
Jeffries should sit for that
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 01:53 PM
We got to have you Hubbard!!! I haven’t seen him hit a 3 yet
I think he's hit the only one.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:53 PM
Nice free throws. Huge misses
BuckyIsAB****
01-06-2024, 01:54 PM
CLANK
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:54 PM
I think he's hit the only one.
I missed first half. We’ve only made 1???? Pathetic!!
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:54 PM
DJ is just a big liability on the offensive end.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 01:55 PM
I've never hit a woman, but I swear I'd have knocked that old bag out for crying about a foul called. Bitch, have you watched this game!
Leeshouldveflanked
01-06-2024, 01:55 PM
Nice free throws. Huge misses
Practicing FTs isnt kewl.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:56 PM
We really needed Andrew Taylor to work out. Hubbard is a scorer but his not a pure 3 point shooter.
Leeshouldveflanked
01-06-2024, 01:56 PM
DJ is just a big liability on the offensive end.
DJ doesnt think so.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:57 PM
I've never hit a woman, but I swear I'd have knocked that old bag out for crying about a foul called. Bitch, have you watched this game!
BS call on Tolu. Had to sit for 6-7 mins. Let see if he can bring us home. Hubbard has to hit that open 3 too
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 01:58 PM
We really needed Andrew Taylor to work out. Hubbard is a scorer but his not a pure 3 point shooter.
I'd put him in at this point just to have someone that will shoot from the perimeter.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 01:59 PM
Can’t rebound again
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 01:59 PM
CAN"T GET A FREAKING DEFENSIVE REBOUND!
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:00 PM
I really feel like this game is a complete fluke... we wouldn't get outrevounded like this 98 out of 100 games. I'm chalking this up as some bad luck
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:00 PM
Rebounding will cost us this game.
civildawg
01-06-2024, 02:01 PM
I hate MSU athletics. We disappoint every time we have any sort of expectations
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 02:02 PM
I really feel like this game is a complete fluke... we wouldn't get outrevounded like this 98 out of 100 games. I'm chalking this up as some bad luck
Well by God we did today
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:02 PM
Tenn and bama next... this was a tough loss
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 02:03 PM
We were soooo spread out on D just then a drive to the goal was easy
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 02:03 PM
That was a charge on our end
BuckyIsAB****
01-06-2024, 02:03 PM
Pack the Hump!
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:03 PM
Well by God we did today
Sure did. Some of these rebounds are like magnetically charged to go straight to them. Oh well... hopefully the refs like us more than their wife (like today for sc) vs Tenn Wednesday
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:03 PM
We get outrebounded and have no 3 point shooting that's a bad combination.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 02:03 PM
I hate MSU athletics. We disappoint every time we have any sort of expectations
+1
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 02:04 PM
We can't have nice things. This is a freaking terrible loss. We are about to start 2-7 in conference if we are lucky.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:04 PM
Pack the Hump!
If we let disappointing losses be an excuse to sit home, football would never have a crowd
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:05 PM
Refs do this shit all the time... they've completely favored a team and see the count, so they call em the other way once the game is decided to even em out.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:06 PM
Got a break there. I didn't see a foul on that one.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:06 PM
We can't have nice things. This is a freaking terrible loss. We are about to start 2-7 in conference if we are lucky.
It's a Q1 loss.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:07 PM
2 TOs left, and jams didn't use one. He really is a worse off coach than arnett
BuckyIsAB****
01-06-2024, 02:08 PM
Tolu using that NIL money to dick with opposing fans when he fouls out
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:08 PM
Seriously, how do you not set up a tolu or Hubbard shot after those misses? Jans is an idiot
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 02:08 PM
It's a Q1 loss.
It's a loss
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:10 PM
It's a loss
Ok, a Q1 loss isn't a killer
parabrave
01-06-2024, 02:10 PM
Let DJ come off the bench. Murphy had as many points in 5 Mins than DJ had in 28. And he had only 2 rebounds.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 02:10 PM
Refs do this shit all the time... they've completely favored a team and see the count, so they call em the other way once the game is decided to even em out.
Yeah. SCs favor the whole game till the end
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 02:11 PM
Ok, a Q1 loss isn't a killer
When you have ZERO Q1 wins it doesn't help
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 02:11 PM
Outrebounded 35-25. We gave up 15 OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS. That can't happen under Jans.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:11 PM
Can Trey Fort not play? Isn't he supposed to be another 3 point shooter?
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:12 PM
Outrebounded 35-25. We gave up 15 OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS. That can't happen under Jans.
Yep, we will almost never beat an SEC team when we get outrebounded like that and allow that many second chance points.
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 02:14 PM
Can Trey Fort not play? Isn't he supposed to be another 3 point shooter?
He was a one hit wonder. He made like 6 in the first game and has made maybe 6 since.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 02:14 PM
Oh my gosh!!!!! We are terrible
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 02:14 PM
That was fing terrible giving up your dribble. Damn that was horrible.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:14 PM
RIDICULOUS. Can't even get off a shot.
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 02:15 PM
If I coached basketball I'd be a killer in my spare time.
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 02:15 PM
Ok, a Q1 loss isn't a killer
Well it is not but when we are staring down the barrel of starting 1-7 or 1-8 this was one we desperately needed.
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:16 PM
Unreal. Had the last shot for a win and turn the ball over.
HoopsDawg
01-06-2024, 02:16 PM
Wow. What a turnover. What was that.
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 02:16 PM
Well it is not but when we are staring down the barrel of starting 1-7 or 1-8 this was one we desperately needed.
No doubt. Vandy is the only game through the next 8 we will be favored in. Terrible, awful loss.
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 02:17 PM
Well it is not but when we are staring down the barrel of starting 1-7 or 1-8 this was one we desperately needed.
Would 2-7 be that much better? Just saying
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 02:19 PM
Would 2-7 e that much better? Just saying
No but 2-5 would not be killer. Would not be great but not killer. Again it does not matter because now 5 to 8 SEC wins is probably all we can hope for and that will not get us in. I mean today showed me we cannot win on the road in the SEC so I see us maybe winning one road game. MAYBE.
Dawgology
01-06-2024, 02:19 PM
NIT bound baby!!!
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 02:20 PM
We've got 3 losses in a row coming up too.
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 02:20 PM
No but 2-5 would not be killer. Would not be great but not killer. Again it does not matter because now 5 to 8 SEC wins is probably all we can hope for and that will not get us in. I mean today showed me we cannot win on the road in the SEC so I see us maybe winning one road game. MAYBE.
So disappointing. Days like this make me want to quit Mississippi State. Damn
CaptainObvious
01-06-2024, 02:21 PM
Would 2-7 be that much better? Just saying
Haha. State fans believing in Basketball is almost laughable. When Cam Matthew's and DJ Jeffries, two zero offensive threats, have to start and play excess minutes on the court at the same time, it is easy to see lots of losses.
CaptainObvious
01-06-2024, 02:22 PM
NIT bound baby!!!
Little early to be expecting that much success.
BuckyIsAB****
01-06-2024, 02:24 PM
So disappointing. Days like this make me want to quit Mississippi State. Damn
Fans emotional investment should equal the players
maroonmania
01-06-2024, 02:24 PM
Haha. State fans believing in Basketball is almost laughable. When Cam Matthew's and DJ Jeffries, two zero offensive threats, have to start and play excess minutes on the court at the same time, it is easy to see lots of losses.
The really bad part is having those 2 in the starting lineup and still getting killed on the glass.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:25 PM
Well it is not but when we are staring down the barrel of starting 1-7 or 1-8 this was one we desperately needed.
We were 1-7 last year to start sec, right?
Bothrops
01-06-2024, 02:31 PM
Money and the investments in the league have gapped us. Everyone is equal or better in talent and have some offense.
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 02:40 PM
We were 1-7 last year to start sec, right?
I think that was around the time you said Jans was a failure right?
Bdawg
01-06-2024, 02:43 PM
Haha. State fans believing in Basketball is almost laughable. When Cam Matthew's and DJ Jeffries, two zero offensive threats, have to start and play excess minutes on the court at the same time, it is easy to see lots of losses.
Yeah. One good shooter on the floor won’t win a lot. Our portal haul for shooters was a failure.
But for us to have a chance, a team like ours can’t lose the rebound battle. That was just awful.
RockyDog
01-06-2024, 02:44 PM
Selmon is going to have some work to do this off-season once again. Just remember how we always take the perceived high moral road when it comes to coaching hires?as Ole Miss leaves our athletic program in the dust. Y?all get ready to enjoy the G5 in a few years.
Yep. We deserve the AAC if we don?t make changes to our mindset
msstate7
01-06-2024, 02:53 PM
I think that was around the time you said Jans was a failure right?
Not sure... it was the Florida loss at home. I was wrong though, and almost everyone here is now. Today was game 1... the season isn't lost
Thick
01-06-2024, 03:07 PM
There’s more ***** here then at any strip club in the country!
StarkVegasSteve
01-06-2024, 03:18 PM
Not sure... it was the Florida loss at home. I was wrong though, and almost everyone here is now. Today was game 1... the season isn't lost
Just messing with you my friend. You are correct. Season is not lost, but we have very little room for error now. Without the Southern loss today is not a big deal. That loss will continue to haunt us.
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 03:40 PM
Just messing with you my friend. You are correct. Season is not lost, but we have very little room for error now. Without the Southern loss today is not a big deal. That loss will continue to haunt us.
We've got beat 2 of Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, and Auburn at home to make up for this loss. We are 2-18 against those schools the last three years. Recent history says 0-4.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 03:52 PM
We've got beat 2 of Tennessee, Alabama, Kentucky, and Auburn at home to make up for this loss. We are 2-18 against those schools the last three years. Recent history says 0-4.
We lost at Georgia last year and we still made the tourney. Georgia was 16-16 (6-12)... SC's net was 46th today
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 03:58 PM
We lost at Georgia last year and we still made the tourney. Georgia was 16-16 (6-12)... SC's net was 46th today
Yeah, and last year we had two Q1 non conference wins. Not happening this year. This was a lost chance at a Q1 win that's going to be easier than any of those four I mentioned, therefore we need to win 2 of those 4 games to make up for this loss. This loss hurts bad.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 04:11 PM
Yeah, and last year we had two Q1 non conference wins. Not happening this year. This was a lost chance at a Q1 win that's going to be easier than any of those four I mentioned, therefore we need to win 2 of those 4 games to make up for this loss. This loss hurts bad.
And if I'm not mistaken, 0 Q2 OOC wins... we currently have 4 this season with wsu a chance to become Q1 at #60.
ETA... Arizona st is #105, so that could become another Q2 win
AROB44
01-06-2024, 04:12 PM
Well....might as well forfeit the rest of the season. We lose the first game of the SEC season so it's all over. ***************
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 05:17 PM
And if I'm not mistaken, 0 Q2 OOC wins... we currently have 4 this season with wsu a chance to become Q1 at #60.
ETA... Arizona st is #105, so that could become another Q2 win
Ok, you win. This is a great loss. Nothing to see here. Move along.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 05:18 PM
Ok, you win. This is a great loss. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Me saying it isn't a season-ending loss somehow equals great loss.
msudawg1200
01-06-2024, 05:24 PM
Me saying it isn't a season-ending loss somehow equals great loss.
I'm not saying it's season ending, but now there is zero room for error. We pretty much have to win 2 of the next four. This year with zero Q1 wins OOC and the loss to Southern we can't go 8-10 in the SEC and lose to a Georgia. This loss has caused us to pretty much have to win all the games we are "supposed" to, and probably another two we "shouldn't". Now, if we finish 13-5 in the SEC, yeah this loss will be no big deal. Yeah, that ain't happening. This loss, even though the first conference game, was huge unless we win a few we shouldn't.
PGHBulldogBG
01-06-2024, 05:31 PM
I’m really surprised at how bad Arkansas is doing this year. They were picked in the top 15 preseason. The four worst teams in the conference are probably Vandy, LSU, Mizzou and Ark. Of course with our luck we only play each of them once.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 05:35 PM
I don't think we've painted ourself into a corner over losing a Q1 road game. There are 8 sec teams in the top 50 in NET, and us and SC are in that group.
Rawdawg
01-06-2024, 05:42 PM
Ok, you win. This is a great loss. Nothing to see here. Move along.
This wasn?t a bad loss, it was a missed opportunity. Our guards didn?t rebound and we unfortunately got called for more fouls than we usually do. It would be huge to go 2-0 this week and defend home court. Thats the big key is stealing a few on the road and win your home games.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 05:45 PM
Probably worth noting that this was the first real game we've played as a team with tolu this season. Hopefully we can split these next 2 to get a Q1 win
msstate7
01-06-2024, 06:42 PM
If any of you have magical pulling powers, pull for Arizona st and Washington st to win their games tonight. Both play on espnu tonight
parabrave
01-06-2024, 07:09 PM
This wasn?t a bad loss, it was a missed opportunity. Our guards didn?t rebound and we unfortunately got called for more fouls than we usually do. It would be huge to go 2-0 this week and defend home court. Thats the big key is stealing a few on the road and win your home games.
Our guards had more rebounds than our forwards. The big diff was the FTs and they made 8 3s and we didn't. Oh and getting out rebounded by 10 made a difference also
msstate7
01-06-2024, 07:14 PM
Our guards had more rebounds than our forwards. The big diff was the FTs and they made 8 3s and we didn't. Oh and getting out rebounded by 10 made a difference also
The rebounding difference makes this game seem very flukish to me. We certainly get beat on the 3- and ft-lines, but we always rebound. And to be honest, a lot of those rebounds were like they were magnetically charged to go straight to SC players.
Oh well, I think we get one of these next 2 homes games, and we will be fine.
NCMSTFAN
01-06-2024, 09:32 PM
It's not the end of the season we have plenty of opportunities to make up wins. That being said it is going to be hard, the SEC is tough.
It's so frustrating hoping and thinking we will have a solid team every year and never do.. we struggle in some way every single year with the Men's and Women's teams.. our glory days of Vic Shaeffer with the girls are long gone and Jans is going to need to recruit better and sharpen our offense if we want to take that next step with the Mens team. In my opinion we still lack that offensive go to perimeter guy like a Q. Weatherspoon type.
msstate7
01-06-2024, 10:15 PM
Arizona st beat Colorado. Pretty good win for us
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