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    The players gave up last night before Cann did. Yeah a pitcher could have gotten hurt. But it didn't happen. One of our hitters could have gotten hurt too. You can't put these guys in bubble wrap. He's going to put players out there that play hard and had no other options besides the bullpen guys. I think he did the right thing and I have no problem with it. Other than the fact it was a loss. Our effort was terrible last night from the players and he's trying to fix it,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    The players gave up last night before Cann did. Yeah a pitcher could have gotten hurt. But it didn't happen. One of our hitters could have gotten hurt too. You can't put these guys in bubble wrap. He's going to put players out there that play hard and had no other options besides the bullpen guys. I think he did the right thing and I have no problem with it. Other than the fact it was a loss. Our effort was terrible last night from the players and he's trying to fix it,
    If it hasn't been a problem in practice, it was overkill. You're not going to play at peak mental focus all season. Losing focus in a midweek game against USA is not a reason to lose it and start replacing position players with pitchers. If it was the culmination of a trend that includes lack of focus in practice, then maybe it was time for them to get shaken up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    If it hasn't been a problem in practice, it was overkill. You're not going to play at peak mental focus all season. Losing focus in a midweek game against USA is not a reason to lose it and start replacing position players with pitchers. If it was the culmination of a trend that includes lack of focus in practice, then maybe it was time for them to get shaken up.
    I trust that Cann had a very good reason for doing what he did since I'm not at practice and I'm guessing odds are you aren't as well.

    I don't think he just put pitchers in the game just to be an ass. I don't think people realize how thin we are in the field as well.

    We have two catchers.
    We really only have six-seven guys that can play on the infield. Gordon is one of those and we have to pitch him because of our pitching depth issues. Bragg is another and his effort is among the worst on the team. Cody Brown can play the infield but that's about it.
    We have five-six outfielders- Poole, MacNamee, and Vansau have all played similarly although MacNamee probably should start and two of those almost have to start every game. Blaylock has struggled a lot.

    I think if he had more options as far as position players go he would have put them in but we don't so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I trust that Cann had a very good reason for doing what he did since I'm not at practice and I'm guessing odds are you aren't as well.

    I don't think he just put pitchers in the game just to be an ass. I don't think people realize how thin we are in the field as well.

    We have two catchers.
    We really only have six-seven guys that can play on the infield. Gordon is one of those and we have to pitch him because of our pitching depth issues. Bragg is another and his effort is among the worst on the team. Cody Brown can play the infield but that's about it.
    We have five-six outfielders- Poole, MacNamee, and Vansau have all played similarly although MacNamee probably should start and two of those almost have to start every game. Blaylock has struggled a lot.

    I think if he had more options as far as position players go he would have put them in but we don't so...
    Totally agree. Obviously some posters never played for a coach like Cann and some never played sports.

    Baseball has streaks, we've been able to overachieve all year with effort, last night was no effort for the most part. I expect to see a different attitude Thursday, folks forget Cann and Henderson didn't recruit any of the players.

    I also expect to see a few players transferring next year as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    The players gave up last night before Cann did. Yeah a pitcher could have gotten hurt. But it didn't happen. One of our hitters could have gotten hurt too. You can't put these guys in bubble wrap. He's going to put players out there that play hard and had no other options besides the bullpen guys. I think he did the right thing and I have no problem with it. Other than the fact it was a loss. Our effort was terrible last night from the players and he's trying to fix it,
    All due respect, there were other available options Lovelady and gordon, albeit Gordon is a pitcher now as well, can anyone on here honestly say if Pilkington or Spencer broke a couple fingers in an at bat, they would be ok with that today. I'm not insinuating to wrap players in bubble wrap but that was just plain bad decision that we thankfully avoided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpatrol View Post
    All due respect, there were other available options Lovelady and gordon, albeit Gordon is a pitcher now as well, can anyone on here honestly say if Pilkington or Spencer broke a couple fingers in an at bat, they would be ok with that today. I'm not insinuating to wrap players in bubble wrap but that was just plain bad decision that we thankfully avoided.
    With all due respect, your suggestion is to either put in another pitcher (Gordon), or a player that has actually torn his ACL during an at bat? What are our other options at catcher by the way?

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    Over risking our 2 best pitchers on an already depleted staff, yes. Who is more important to our starting rotation, Pilkington or Gordon. And I apologize if I am wrong, but Lovelady tore his acl running to back up 1st last year, it has not prevented him from playing this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpatrol View Post
    Over risking our 2 best pitchers on an already depleted staff, yes. Who is more important to our starting rotation, Pilkington or Gordon. And I apologize if I am wrong, but Lovelady tore his acl running to back up 1st last year, it has not prevented him from playing this year.
    My guess is the percentage of one of our pitchers getting hurt is around 1%. It rarely even happens in MLB but all of a sudden we're taking down huge risk letting our pitchers hit? Laughable. And I'm pretty sure they take BP so this isn't something foreign to them.

    Be pissed at the effort of the team forcing Cann to hit pitchers- not Cann.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My guess is the percentage of one of our pitchers getting hurt is around 1%. It rarely even happens in MLB but all of a sudden we're taking down huge risk letting our pitchers hit? Laughable. And I'm pretty sure they take BP so this isn't something foreign to them.

    Be pissed at the effort of the team forcing Cann to hit pitchers- not Cann.
    I understand what your saying but if Pilkington breaks a finger there everyone on here is screaming how stupid it was to expose him to that with position players available to hit. Getting hit with a 93 to 94 mph game fastball is a little different and more probable than getting hit with a batting practice pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgpatrol View Post
    I understand what your saying but if Pilkington breaks a finger there everyone on here is screaming how stupid it was to expose him to that with position players available to hit. Getting hit with a 93 to 94 mph game fastball is a little different and more probable than getting hit with a batting practice pitch.
    He is far more likely to get injured pitching so I guess we need to sit him against Bama since they are bad anyway. Need to save Pilk from taking a line shot while he is pitching, that is far more likely than getting injured while batting.

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