Recruiting News

[MafiaDawg]

Not recruiting but rumors of Tem Lukabu for LB coach

Now that sounds like a bad idea. Has he ever recruited a d1 player?

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Now that sounds like a bad idea. Has he ever recruited a d1 player?

He's coached at Rutgers & Florida International. The connection is he was JoeMo 1st DC at Fordham but when Schiano got the Tampa Bay job he went to Tampa with him.

[I seen it dawg]

Now that sounds like a bad idea. Has he ever recruited a d1 player?

We’ve got heavy recruiters all over the staff. Much more than the 4 we had last yr. It’s ok if he has to learn a little as long as he’s a bad ass coach.

[yjnkdawg]

Now that sounds like a bad idea. Has he ever recruited a d1 player?

Please enlighten us by giving us your top pick, since you apparently know (think you do) a lot more of how Coach JoeMo needs to run his football program that he was hired to do so by our administration.

[Dawg61]

Now that sounds like a bad idea. Has he ever recruited a d1 player?

Is there a reason this clown hasn?t been sent to bannsylvania?

Agreed bro!

Wondered that myself.

He has been continually questioning everything Coach JoeMo does and not just on ED. It appears to be some type of obsession.

Please enlighten us by giving us your top pick, since you apparently know (think you do) a lot more of how Coach JoeMo needs to run his football program that he was hired to do so by our administration.

He's not a troll just doesn't like the assistants that Joe has hired apparently.

[MafiaDawg]

Goodness....I'm a big fan of the JM hire. Big fan of Huff, Hud, and even Shoop. I'm not a fan at all of letting DJ and Tbuck go. The Lukabu and rumored Brady hires do not do anything for me when it's been said we have lots of money to go after top proven assistants who have recruiting experience. Since when do people on ED want people banned for expressing a different opinion that's anything but 100 percent total agreement with the new coach?

[Dawg61]

Goodness....I'm a big fan of the JM hire. Big fan of Huff, Hud, and even Shoop. I'm not a fan at all of letting DJ and Tbuck go. The Lukabu and rumored Brady hires do not do anything for me when it's been said we have lots of money to go after top proven assistants who have recruiting experience. Since when do people on ED want people banned for expressing a different opinion that's anything but 100 percent total agreement with the new coach?

They aren't but you've been needing to make a post that is more detailed as to why you are displeased like you just did now for awhile instead of making snide 1-2 sentence posts and then ghosting on the thread. You made a similar unpopular comment in the SPS thread about Lukabu and it was downvoted into oblivion. Guy sounds like a pretty decent hire to me. Perhaps Moorhead is going to start recruiting different areas than we are used to getting players from. I don't think that's a bad thing. When you're 3rd in fewest miles away from campus per football player signee in the entire country it means you need to expand your recruiting base out more. Maybe just maybe Joe wants to recruit a little out West or in Jersey area some which has produced some good players recently. Regardless we are going to wait to see if these guys can produce on the field and in recruiting before we are going to blast them as hires because blasting them right now just looks petty. You can't possibly know a damn thing about Lukabu as a coach.

Here's your SPS post

Gross. Looks like we have a new country club. What happened to some recruiters like Cohen promised? No wonder were hiding this guy.

[gravedigger]

They aren't but you've been needing to make a post that is more detailed as to why you are displeased like you just did now for awhile instead of making snide 1-2 sentence posts and then ghosting on the thread. You made a similar unpopular comment in the SPS thread about Lukabu and it was downvoted into oblivion. Guy sounds like a pretty decent hire to me. Perhaps Moorhead is going to start recruiting different areas than we are used to getting players from. I don't think that's a bad thing. When you're 3rd in fewest miles away from campus per football player signee in the entire country it means you need to expand your recruiting base out more. Maybe just maybe Joe wants to recruit a little out West or in Jersey area some which has produced some good players recently. Regardless we are going to wait to see if these guys can produce on the field and in recruiting before we are going to blast them as hires because blasting them right now just looks petty. You can't possibly know a damn thing about Lukabu as a coach.

Here's your SPS post

Exactly. And to add. The short, no detailed posts in their entirety indicate that the poster is in fact NOT a big fan of the the JM hire no matter what is stated to the contrary. Sure Moorhead will make some questionable decisions, but to consistently seagull two boards seems like it is for attention. Which, if I'm not mistaken, is the definition of trolling.

I'll also add that MSU has really gone outside the south ONCE in head coaching football. ******* decisions and recruiting may not have always pleased everyone, but they also produced acceptable results. Perhaps, if MSU wants to change our perception, we need to do something differently than every other southeastern conference school.

I like DJ and TBuck too. I cant imagine them not being on the staff. Then again, I dont coach for a living.

[MafiaDawg]

Yes I am slightly concerned that he is primarily hiring guys he has a pre existing relationship with. I believe Don was criticized for the exact same thing on here for years because he had coaches who kept kim comfortable and were his friends. I understand doing that on offense moreso because the communication transition will be easier. Hell I hope they all succeed and do incredible but it's hard to argue that spending a lot of money (which we have) on a proven guy at LB or WR with no risk can't be argued as the better move here.

[TrapGame]

Yes I am slightly concerned that he is primarily hiring guys he has a pre existing relationship with. I believe Don was criticized for the exact same thing on here for years because he had coaches who kept kim comfortable and were his friends. I understand doing that on offense moreso because the communication transition will be easier. Hell I hope they all succeed and do incredible but it's hard to argue that spending a lot of money (which we have) on a proven guy at LB or WR with no risk can't be argued as the better move here.

Don also had those guys following him around for years. Not so with Joe. Huff is about the only one he was coaching with at PSU.

This ain't no country club.

[I seen it dawg]

Yes I am slightly concerned that he is primarily hiring guys he has a pre existing relationship with. I believe Don was criticized for the exact same thing on here for years because he had coaches who kept kim comfortable and were his friends. I understand doing that on offense moreso because the communication transition will be easier. Hell I hope they all succeed and do incredible but it's hard to argue that spending a lot of money (which we have) on a proven guy at LB or WR with no risk can't be argued as the better move here.

Merlin had friends that wouldn’t recruit. Big difference.

[Jarius]

Yes I am slightly concerned that he is primarily hiring guys he has a pre existing relationship with. I believe Don was criticized for the exact same thing on here for years because he had coaches who kept kim comfortable and were his friends. I understand doing that on offense moreso because the communication transition will be easier. Hell I hope they all succeed and do incredible but it's hard to argue that spending a lot of money (which we have) on a proven guy at LB or WR with no risk can't be argued as the better move here.

Hiring people that you are familiar with is not a problem. Not being able to fire people that need to be fired because you are too close to them is a problem that Mullen had. No one knows if Joe Mo will have that problem. Our recruiting class is going to finish strong so the early returns are good. Only time will tell.

[Ari Gold]

Goodness....I'm a big fan of the JM hire. Big fan of Huff, Hud, and even Shoop. I'm not a fan at all of letting DJ and Tbuck go. The Lukabu and rumored Brady hires do not do anything for me when it's been said we have lots of money to go after top proven assistants who have recruiting experience. Since when do people on ED want people banned for expressing a different opinion that's anything but 100 percent total agreement with the new coach?

Hud > Looney and it isn?t even close when it comes to coaching TE and recruiting.
Looney wasn?t going to coach the OL , so the hire there is soild. Power 5 experience , coached OL under a great head guy in Cutt and has Ms ties. Sounds pretty slam dunk to me.

With Tbuck. Yeah he recruits well. But I have been told that his crutch is coaching. Most all the great ones at their craft, Bird, Magic, Jordan , don?t make good coaches. Hard for them to teach kids to do what came so easy to them. Not saying Tbuck was the greatest CB ever but dude was very good.

With LB rumor coach. We have recuriters on this staff. I would trade a kick ass LB coach for a recruiter here. Lukabu has only been a LB guy from day one. That?s all he has coached. I have no idea how he would fit here but he seems to be very knowledgeable at the LB position. Who knows he may recruit well. We have 2 possible all SEC LB in Gay and Errol and maybe this guy can light a fire or something under Leo ass. Too talented a player.. he should be much better

When it come to the Wr coach We are replacing Gonzo. . It?s already an upgrade.

[Tbonewannabe]

Hud > Looney and it isn?t even close when it comes to coaching TE and recruiting.
Looney wasn?t going to coach the OL , so the hire there is soild. Power 5 experience , coached OL under a great head guy in Cutt and has Ms ties. Sounds pretty slam dunk to me.

With Tbuck. Yeah he recruits well. But I have been told that his crutch is coaching. Most all the great ones at their craft, Bird, Magic, Jordan , don?t make good coaches. Hard for them to teach kids to do what came so easy to them. Not saying Tbuck was the greatest CB ever but dude was very good.

With LB rumor coach. We have recuriters on this staff. I would trade a kick ass LB coach for a recruiter here. Lukabu has only been a LB guy from day one. That?s all he has coached. I have no idea how he would fit here but he seems to be very knowledgeable at the LB position. Who knows he may recruit well. We have 2 possible all SEC LB in Gay and Errol and maybe this guy can light a fire or something under Leo ass. Too talented a player.. he should be much better

When it come to the Wr coach We are replacing Gonzo. . It?s already an upgrade.

Having the players watch Youtube videos of Jerry Rice would have been an improvement over Gonzo.

[maroonmania]

Hud > Looney and it isn?t even close when it comes to coaching TE and recruiting.
Looney wasn?t going to coach the OL , so the hire there is soild. Power 5 experience , coached OL under a great head guy in Cutt and has Ms ties. Sounds pretty slam dunk to me.

With Tbuck. Yeah he recruits well. But I have been told that his crutch is coaching. Most all the great ones at their craft, Bird, Magic, Jordan , don?t make good coaches. Hard for them to teach kids to do what came so easy to them. Not saying Tbuck was the greatest CB ever but dude was very good.

With LB rumor coach. We have recuriters on this staff. I would trade a kick ass LB coach for a recruiter here. Lukabu has only been a LB guy from day one. That?s all he has coached. I have no idea how he would fit here but he seems to be very knowledgeable at the LB position. Who knows he may recruit well. We have 2 possible all SEC LB in Gay and Errol and maybe this guy can light a fire or something under Leo ass. Too talented a player.. he should be much better

When it come to the Wr coach We are replacing Gonzo. . It?s already an upgrade.

The only thing I will say was that it really didn't have to be an either/or on Hud and Looney. Moorhead is going to make his own decisions without my input but I would have felt better if he had just made Looney the TE coach and Hud the AHC/WR coach. WR is what Hud coached here before anyway. I have no clue who JoMo is looking at for WR coach. But Looney is a guy that really wanted to be at MSU and is an ace recruiter. Apparently was even top notch at recruiting when he was a player. On the defensive side would have liked to have kept TBuck as well just because he is a good recruiter. Now our secondary did get burned in a few games but on a lot of those probably had more to do with talent than coaching. Don't really understand bringing in Ambrose instead but I'll roll with it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

The only thing I will say was that it really didn't have to be an either/or on Hud and Looney. Moorhead is going to make his own decisions without my input but I would have felt better if he had just made Looney the TE coach and Hud the AHC/WR coach. WR is what Hud coached here before anyway. I have no clue who JoMo is looking at for WR coach. But Looney is a guy that really wanted to be at MSU and is an ace recruiter. Apparently was even top notch at recruiting when he was a player. On the defensive side would have liked to have kept TBuck as well just because he was good recruiter. Now our secondary did get burned in a few games but on a lot of those probably had more to do with talent than coaching. Don't really understand bringing in Ambrose instead but I'll roll with it.

Ambrose won't be the DB Coach