Alot of our baseball fans need to realize its not 1995 anymore

[RougeDawg]

And what do you expect hitters like Jake Vickerson, Jacob Robson, Seth Heck, and Cody Brown to do other than hit singles and bunt? Do you really think that Cohen, Rudy Jaramillo, Charlie Lau, Clark, or Palmeiro could make them into power hitters? That would be like Astros fans expecting Jose Altuve to hit 30 home runs because their hitting coach had a magic wand or something. Yet another example of how our fans don't understand the game.

Cohen built us for the baseball culture at the time- and it resulted in two SR's, and a CWS appearance making it to the finals. And now he is recruiting more power hitters like Rooker, Cole Gordon, Nate Lowe, and hopefully Riley and Pickett make it to adjust for the current era.

I'm pretty sure Cohen gets it. It's pretty much public knowledge that Cohen wanted the ball change to be delayed to give us a chance to adjust our roster. If he was deadest on small ball, I'm pretty sure that would have never come out.

Yes Todd, proper mechanics taught to any of the players mentioned would provide them the ability to apply more power on the baseball at point of contact. It's simple physics and leverage. Our mechanics (ie. Hands/elbows away from the body, hands too close to midpoint of body on stance, squatting too much) are all correctable items that take very little work and/or instruction. Changing any of these will add power simply by the physics of leverage. Correct all 3 for most hitters and you will see a dramatic jump in power numbers.

You call me out for "thinking I know more than others", but simply understanding physics and the specific traits of a power baseball stance don't exactly exude someone acting like they know more than anyone else. I simply can comprehend two different yet similar situations, put them together and draw an educated description.

They problem you and many others have is no "below the surface" baseball experience and knowledge base. I could write an entire thread on how and where you take your lead off of each base, depending on what you want the other team to think and/or do. Most people have no clue that you can take a lead numerous ways off of first base to influence the defense into doing something you want. The base runners who know these things can influence the defense and thus increase their chances of success. I rarely see a college player do these small lead off things. A player can take a normal lead and get the pitcher to throw over every time based on the angle he takes his lead away from first. I apologize for getting into details, because you and others cannot comprehend them and say "I think I know everything", so I will stop.

When you and others would like some insight on baseball below the surface of basic high school knowledge, let me know. Most people such as yourself, would rather discount what I say opposed to taking a moment to think about it and actually comprehend what I'm actually attempting to share with the board.

[Really Clark?]

Yes Todd, proper mechanics taught to any of the players mentioned would provide them the ability to apply more power on the baseball at point of contact. It's simple physics and leverage. Our mechanics (ie. Hands/elbows away from the body, hands too close to midpoint of body on stance, squatting too much) are all correctable items that take very little work and/or instruction. Changing any of these will add power simply by the physics of leverage. Correct all 3 for most hitters and you will see a dramatic jump in power numbers.

You call me out for "thinking I know more than others", but simply understanding physics and the specific traits of a power baseball stance don't exactly exude someone acting like they know more than anyone else. I simply can comprehend two different yet similar situations, put them together and draw an educated description.

They problem you and many others have is no "below the surface" baseball experience and knowledge base. I could write an entire thread on how and where you take your lead off of each base, depending on what you want the other team to think and/or do. Most people have no clue that you can take a lead numerous ways off of first base to influence the defense into doing something you want. The base runners who know these things can influence the defense and thus increase their chances of success. I rarely see a college player do these small lead off things. A player can take a normal lead and get the pitcher to throw over every time based on the angle he takes his lead away from first. I apologize for getting into details, because you and others cannot comprehend them and say "I think I know everything", so I will stop.

When you and others would like some insight on baseball below the surface of basic high school knowledge, let me know. Most people such as yourself, would rather discount what I say opposed to taking a moment to think about it and actually comprehend what I'm actually attempting to share with the board.

Wow. You are awful condescending for someone who is actually very limited in your own understanding of mechanics. You give ridiculous verbiage of things that don't even matter or have been shown to you are incorrect. At this point I have to contradict you at every turn for fear of someone actually thinking you have a clue about a Pony ball swing much less high school and above. You keep talking about basic stuff that you even get wrong or confused about and try to dress it up like you are given insight. And you are wrong. I have given you very lengthy overview of stances and elbow positioning with some of the best in MLB, pictures and video. And you still bring it up, and you are dead wrong with your thinking. I can't even piece together what your philosophy is. You get called out because you are an amateur with mechanics who is trying to present themselves as someone who knows what he is talking about. You should stop, not because of people calling your idiocy out, but because you are given bad information and someone might use that info who doesn't know better. There are a lot of dads you are trying to help kids on here and you will lead them down a struggle. Although I will admit you basically talk about things we do wrong (that at times have no bearing on the swing, amateur thinking) and can't actual give instruction about what is correct. So us who do and have studied and worked with hitters, thank you for stopping and hopefully that is one less hitter we have to correct later in life. And btw your knowledge hasn't even touched the surface of a high level swing. So instead of insulting other people's knowledge, work on your ignorance. What could you possibly have to teach? Go study and work with hitters yourself for a few years then come back to the mechanics discussion.

If you can actually post an illustration and/or video and show and break down what is wrong with a hitter and develop a plan to just begin to correct their flaw, I will listen and maybe it will prove you have knowledge on the subject. Otherwise you are doing the right thing in stopping.

ETA. Sorry guys for the late addition to this but it was pointed out that I was so mad at the overall tone of the post I missed something important. Some of what he is talking about with our stance issues, mainly the elbows to far away from the body, if a hitter continues his or her swing with what he advocates at stance, hands and elbows close to the torso, then there will be reducing of the power considerably. It can create way too much bat drag losing power and timing. Now someone who starts with that stance but at early load adjusts to a proper position, that's fine. But you just can't maintain that position because the path will be off and possibly have considerable bat drag.



The above photo is just a reference of how differing hand, elbow, bat, etc position is between players and how nearly all high level coaches agree that at stance (pre-swing) it does NOT necessarily have a bearing on the actual swing. It is NOT an absolute in the swing. When you initiate load however, you have to get into proper position.

[I seen it dawg]

Yes Todd, proper mechanics taught to any of the players mentioned would provide them the ability to apply more power on the baseball at point of contact. It's simple physics and leverage. Our mechanics (ie. Hands/elbows away from the body, hands too close to midpoint of body on stance, squatting too much) are all correctable items that take very little work and/or instruction. Changing any of these will add power simply by the physics of leverage. Correct all 3 for most hitters and you will see a dramatic jump in power numbers.

You call me out for "thinking I know more than others", but simply understanding physics and the specific traits of a power baseball stance don't exactly exude someone acting like they know more than anyone else. I simply can comprehend two different yet similar situations, put them together and draw an educated description.

They problem you and many others have is no "below the surface" baseball experience and knowledge base. I could write an entire thread on how and where you take your lead off of each base, depending on what you want the other team to think and/or do. Most people have no clue that you can take a lead numerous ways off of first base to influence the defense into doing something you want. The base runners who know these things can influence the defense and thus increase their chances of success. I rarely see a college player do these small lead off things. A player can take a normal lead and get the pitcher to throw over every time based on the angle he takes his lead away from first. I apologize for getting into details, because you and others cannot comprehend them and say "I think I know everything", so I will stop.

When you and others would like some insight on baseball below the surface of basic high school knowledge, let me know. Most people such as yourself, would rather discount what I say opposed to taking a moment to think about it and actually comprehend what I'm actually attempting to share with the board.

Super douchetastic. Nice work putz.

[Dawg61]

Yes Todd, proper mechanics taught to any of the players mentioned would provide them the ability to apply more power on the baseball at point of contact. It's simple physics and leverage. Our mechanics (ie. Hands/elbows away from the body, hands too close to midpoint of body on stance, squatting too much) are all correctable items that take very little work and/or instruction. Changing any of these will add power simply by the physics of leverage. Correct all 3 for most hitters and you will see a dramatic jump in power numbers.

You call me out for "thinking I know more than others", but simply understanding physics and the specific traits of a power baseball stance don't exactly exude someone acting like they know more than anyone else. I simply can comprehend two different yet similar situations, put them together and draw an educated description.

They problem you and many others have is no "below the surface" baseball experience and knowledge base. I could write an entire thread on how and where you take your lead off of each base, depending on what you want the other team to think and/or do. Most people have no clue that you can take a lead numerous ways off of first base to influence the defense into doing something you want. The base runners who know these things can influence the defense and thus increase their chances of success. I rarely see a college player do these small lead off things. A player can take a normal lead and get the pitcher to throw over every time based on the angle he takes his lead away from first. I apologize for getting into details, because you and others cannot comprehend them and say "I think I know everything", so I will stop.

When you and others would like some insight on baseball below the surface of basic high school knowledge, let me know. Most people such as yourself, would rather discount what I say opposed to taking a moment to think about it and actually comprehend what I'm actually attempting to share with the board.

#HandsBackDon'tBloop