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And I wonder what Mr. Kongbo's SA# is. Hell, there's like 49 of them he's gotta be one.
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Is he the one freeze went to visit and took prayer beads?
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Originally Posted by
louisvilledawg
HUH....
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44% Crystal ball, and Chris Kiffin....
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If you can trace the calls to a number is there a way to trac the other call that were revived by that particular number? Are there records?
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
If you can trace the calls to a number is there a way to trac the other call that were revived by that particular number? Are there records?
Yes. The question is whether you can determine who was using the burner phone. You may not be able to identify who's using the burner phone, but if Hugh is calling the burner, and Barney is calling the burner, and a recruit is calling the burner - those records exist and a subpoena could get them.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Now feels like a good time to activate circus music
Good find. However, I was disappointed that it wasn't a hooker.
Honestly speaking, I don't think much comes of this. First off, the stuff they already have on Freeze / OM is way worse than anything burner phone related. Secondly, even if its proven to be a burner phone belonging to Kongbo, there is no proof that OM provided it to him, and no proof of what communication transpired over said phone unless Kongbo testified to the NCAA about it. That being said, the worst they could pop OM for here is communicating during the dead period or something like that, which is extremely tame compared to what they are already facing.
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Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
Yes. The question is whether you can determine who was using the burner phone. You may not be able to identify who's using the burner phone, but if Hugh is calling the burner, and Barney is calling the burner, and a recruit is calling the burner - those records exist and a subpoena could get them.
It's very difficult with burner phones for a multitude of reasons. Depends on the SP, where it was purchased, how you load the minutes, the local towers, etc. you would almost need a counter terrorism expert to figure it all out...
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Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
Good find. However, I was disappointed that it wasn't a hooker.
Honestly speaking, I don't think much comes of this. First off, the stuff they already have on Freeze / OM is way worse than anything burner phone related. Secondly, even if its proven to be a burner phone belonging to Kongbo, there is no proof that OM provided it to him, and no proof of what communication transpired over said phone unless Kongbo testified to the NCAA about it. That being said, the worst they could pop OM for here is communicating during the dead period or something like that, which is extremely tame compared to what they are already facing.
I think proof of OM using burner phones in recruiting would be a bigger deal than discovering Freeze contacted another hooker.
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Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
I don't understand what you don't understand about my oh snap gif
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Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
Good find. However, I was disappointed that it wasn't a hooker.
Honestly speaking, I don't think much comes of this. First off, the stuff they already have on Freeze / OM is way worse than anything burner phone related. Secondly, even if its proven to be a burner phone belonging to Kongbo, there is no proof that OM provided it to him, and no proof of what communication transpired over said phone unless Kongbo testified to the NCAA about it. That being said, the worst they could pop OM for here is communicating during the dead period or something like that, which is extremely tame compared to what they are already facing.
The questions about burner phones should be asked to BF and ML..... BF probably has the paperwork on the phone numbers and who had them....
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Does Mars have a burner phone from a croot and he's tracking numbers down? And I guess if you get the number of the coach and the service info then call records from the carrier can be obtained. Maybe the coach's burner shows he was making escort calls too.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Does Mars have a burner phone from a croot and he's tracking numbers down? And I guess if you get the number of the coach and the service info then call records from the carrier can be obtained. Maybe the coach's burner shows he was making escort calls too.
I guess that Mars's strategy here is too prove how shady hugh is to prove that the statements made about Nutt to the media were factually inaccurate?
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Originally Posted by
louisvilledawg
I don't understand what you don't understand about my oh snap gif
He's pointing out who was recruiting Longbo.
"Hmmmm" would maybe work better than "HUH"
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Burner Phones, Escorts..... RR is sueing the wrong people....
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Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
He's pointing out who was recruiting Longbo.
"Hmmmm" would maybe work better than "HUH"
What he said... Just connecting more dots...
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
It's very difficult with burner phones for a multitude of reasons. Depends on the SP, where it was purchased, how you load the minutes, the local towers, etc. you would almost need a counter terrorism expert to figure it all out...
I don't think that will be an issue...😄
Along with Robertson's help, Mars also enlisted the services of Fred Burton, a longtime counterterrorism agent with the U.S. Department of State. Burton, whom Mars has known since the second grade, was involved in several high-profile investigations, including the capture of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and the assassination of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. When asked about what Burton did to help in the Nutt case, Mars declined to provide specifics.
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Originally Posted by
Leeshouldveflanked
Burner Phones, Escorts..... RR is sueing the wrong people....
Probably rueing the wrong people too. this shit is complicated.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I think proof of OM using burner phones in recruiting would be a bigger deal than discovering Freeze contacted another hooker.
From an NCAA standpoint, you'd be right (unless the hooker or hookers were linked to both Freeze and recruits).
However, it's still not a bigger deal than what is already out there. Freeze has already been nailed with a booster with him in his home with recruits. That's show cause material already, and far more of a damnable offense than the burner phones. The burner phone looks suspicious, but it doesn't change the overall outlook that much. Plus, it will likely never be proven unless Kongbo talks. We've reached a point of diminishing returns with this investigation. Coaches coordinating a prostitution ring is pretty much the only way it is going to get worse than it already is.
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Originally Posted by
Mimi's Babies
The questions about burner phones should be asked to BF and ML..... BF probably has the paperwork on the phone numbers and who had them....
Yes he does.
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