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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
He's literally destroying the program he built.
Calm down Francis. Don Muffin isn't destroying 9 years of work by poaching 1 OL from us. It is the early period. We can sign another one.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
So, if we do happen to lose out on carvin, do we reach on an olineman or get best available and hope to get olinemen next cycle?
I'm so 17ing burnt out on losing out to OL , WR, & CB's.
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At least we appear to have starting tackles for the next 3 years. Really need those jucos we redshirted to pan out and be depth this upcoming season and starters in 2019
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It just was not necessary to blow up the whole coaching staff and start over. The program was not in shambles. Looks like we are paying for it with Bishop, Carvin, maybe others. Hope I'm wrong but this seems like a big mistake by CJM.
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Originally Posted by
MafiaDawg
It just was not necessary to blow up the whole coaching staff and start over. The program was not in shambles. Looks like we are paying for it with Bishop, Carvin, maybe others. Hope I'm wrong but this seems like a big mistake by CJM.
Bishop was tied with TBuck but Carvin was strickly a Hev and Gonzo recruit so that didn't matter who we kept. Rod Gibson has taken over lead during the transition. Let's see how tonight's visit goes. But Bishop is the only guy that you can make the case for right now
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Originally Posted by
MafiaDawg
It just was not necessary to blow up the whole coaching staff and start over. The program was not in shambles. Looks like we are paying for it with Bishop, Carvin, maybe others. Hope I'm wrong but this seems like a big mistake by CJM.
I reserve the right to change my mind after we see how this pans out, but at this time, I think it's far more important to get the staff right than worrying about 1 player
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Originally Posted by
MafiaDawg
It just was not necessary to blow up the whole coaching staff and start over. The program was not in shambles. Looks like we are paying for it with Bishop, Carvin, maybe others. Hope I'm wrong but this seems like a big mistake by CJM.
It's totally unrealistic to think outta 24 commits any coach ever in the history of football is gonna be able to hold onto all 24 high school kids right after the guy that got all of them committed bolted to Florida.
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I amazed at the number of pus$ies around here.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
It's totally unrealistic to think outta 24 commits any coach ever in the history of football is gonna be able to hold onto all 24 high school kids right after the guy that got all of them committed bolted to Florida.
Totally Agree^^^^!
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Yeah, this is one of the real pitfalls of the early signing period.
I was really thought this would benefit us, but it appears as though it really screws teams that having coaching changes & just seems downright unfair when it's your coach that leaves instead of being fired.
Our new coaching staff simply doesn't have time to make up ground & this is why it feels unethical what Dan is doing. He's literally destroying the program he built.
I agree about the early signing period. I was in favor of an early signing period, but I want it to be in November before thanksgiving. If a kid is hesitant that a coach might leave or get fired, then they can wait. In fact if the early signing period was in November, I?d be fine saying kids that commit to a program that then FIRES the coach should be free to re-open recruitment, but guys that early sign with a coach who then chooses to leave for another job don?t get released. It does hurt programs the most that have their coach poached (MSU and Oregon are the 2 P5 programs to have their HC hired elsewhere this coaching carousel, seems like we are gonna probably be ok, but Oregon is ****ed, they lost tons of top end talent and don?t really have much chance to get them back on board fast enough for the early signing period).
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Joe say
Also can anyone photoshop JoMo's face on Harrison here and Muffin Man's face on the other guy
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So there is a good chance we can still land him. I was just checking the crystal balls this morning and noticed it. Seems like we have a legitimate shot if we have the in home after the others he?s considering, if him having a hard time telling people no is accurate.
We need some OL talent and depth if we are to take the next step.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Calm down Francis. Don Muffin isn't destroying 9 years of work by poaching 1 OL from us. It is the early period. We can sign another one.
cmon Dawg ... he IS poaching us and he knew back when his expense and salary was being paid by us that he was actually recruiting for some other school ... we basically paid him and his assistants to recruit for someone else and although it might be legal it's bullshit and unethical ..... I can't wait for him to lose to a South Alabama type opponent because I'm throwing down some Makers Mark when it happens
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Per Steve, Carvin hasn't committed to anyone and reports that he has is false. FWIW
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Originally Posted by
FISHDAWG
cmon Dawg ... he IS poaching us and he knew back when his expense and salary was being paid by us that he was actually recruiting for some other school ... we basically paid him and his assistants to recruit for someone else and although it might be legal it's bullshit and unethical ..... I can't wait for him to lose to a South Alabama type opponent because I'm throwing down some Makers Mark when it happens
Well he got us 23 other commits including a great QB, RB and looks to be 2 excellent WRs so I can deal with him poaching 1 OL and a kicker we don't need. I am no Don Muffin fan right now and that should be obvious but he left us a great class to sign and it's only the early period. Joe can fill any remaining holes, which looks to be only 2 spots, by NSD.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Per Steve, Carvin hasn't committed to anyone and reports that he has is false. FWIW
No one was saying he was committed to anyone. Just that there were 3-4 crystal ball predictions of him to Florida in last 24 hours. One of those predictions being our own Robbie Faulk.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
No one was saying he was committed to anyone. Just that there were 3-4 crystal ball predictions of him to Florida in last 24 hours. One of those predictions being our own Robbie Faulk.
Actually this was all stirred up by Gator Country reporting he had committed to the Florida staff. Not saying there's not smoke but just passing along what Carvin told Steve a little while ago
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Last edited by yjnkdawg; 12-11-2017 at 03:06 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Actually this was all stirred up by Gator Country reporting he had committed to the Florida staff. Not saying there's not smoke but just passing along what Carvin told Steve a little while ago
Carvin told Steve he committed to FL?
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Originally Posted by
Bully13
Carvin told Steve he committed to FL?
No. Carvin told Steve he hadn't committed to anyone and anybody that stated he had is false
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