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    You guys act like basketball is football. It shouldn't take 4 years to win some games. Bring in a couple stud players in basketball and you can make the tourney if you can coach. He's getting one more year though unless something really blows up this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    You guys act like basketball is football. It shouldn't take 4 years to win some games. Bring in a couple stud players in basketball and you can make the tourney if you can coach. He's getting one more year though unless something really blows up this season.
    Not where our program was. That was never going to happen after the Ray debacle. Howland is bringing us back from Loafers’s self imposed 3 year death penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    You guys act like basketball is football. It shouldn't take 4 years to win some games. Bring in a couple stud players in basketball and you can make the tourney if you can coach.
    This gets thrown around a lot and it's greatly exaggerated and misunderstood. If by "stud players" you mean top 15, sure thing one-and-done guys, then yes, you can and should expect a quick turnaround with good coaching. But what happens is that people assume top 100 in basketball is the same as top 100 in football, see a program like us land a few top 50-100 guys, and assume we should immediately start winning big, when in reality we have a young team of high 3/low 4 star guys in football terms. We have never recruited at that instant win level, not even under Stansbury. Howland really hasn't ever either; for all the players he's put in the NBA, only a select few were one-and-dones. He's never had a Calipari-esque team where he's starting 2-3 freshmen who will be in the NBA the next year. If anything, the fact that he's gotten so many guys to the NBA after two or more years should give us confidence going forward; shows that he's a good developer in addition to a good recruiter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    This gets thrown around a lot and it's greatly exaggerated and misunderstood. If by "stud players" you mean top 15, sure thing one-and-done guys, then yes, you can and should expect a quick turnaround with good coaching. But what happens is that people assume top 100 in basketball is the same as top 100 in football, see a program like us land a few top 50-100 guys, and assume we should immediately start winning big, when in reality we have a young team of high 3/low 4 star guys in football terms. We have never recruited at that instant win level, not even under Stansbury. Howland really hasn't ever either; for all the players he's put in the NBA, only a select few were one-and-dones. He's never had a Calipari-esque team where he's starting 2-3 freshmen who will be in the NBA the next year. If anything, the fact that he's gotten so many guys to the NBA after two or more years should give us confidence going forward; shows that he's a good developer in addition to a good recruiter.
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