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    Bulldogs in MLB updates...

    Kendall Graveman is projected as the A's #1 starter this year, Chris Stratton is expected to be the Giants #5 starter. Pretty amazing what Graveman has become. Moreland will continue to be in a platoon at 1b for the Red Sox this year. Adam Frazier should continue to see lots of ABs for the Pirates 4th OF and backup 2b. Justin Holder is in the Yankees bullpen again and Jacob Lindgren is expected to break camp in the Braves bullpen. Hunter Renfroe is the Padres 4th OF. Who am I forgetting?

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    Woodruff? Tyler Moore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydawg1 View Post
    Woodruff? Tyler Moore?
    Looks like Woodruff is starting the year in AAA for Brewers and Moore is a free agent still so his career may be winding down.

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    Woodruff probably won't be down long- at least until his super two eligibility expires. I think Dakota Hudson makes it up this year with the Cardinals. Probably in the bullpen but starting is a possibility as well. Rooker could make it with a strong year also but not until September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Kendall Graveman is projected as the A's #1 starter this year, Chris Stratton is expected to be the Giants #5 starter. Pretty amazing what Graveman has become. Moreland will continue to be in a platoon at 1b for the Red Sox this year. Adam Frazier should continue to see lots of ABs for the Pirates 4th OF and backup 2b. Justin Holder is in the Yankees bullpen again and Jacob Lindgren is expected to break camp in the Braves bullpen. Hunter Renfroe is the Padres 4th OF. Who am I forgetting?
    Jonathan Holder**

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvilledawg View Post
    Jonathan Holder**
    I haven't kept up w holder this spring but I knew his velo was down from 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Kendall Graveman is projected as the A's #1 starter this year, Chris Stratton is expected to be the Giants #5 starter. Pretty amazing what Graveman has become. Moreland will continue to be in a platoon at 1b for the Red Sox this year. Adam Frazier should continue to see lots of ABs for the Pirates 4th OF and backup 2b. Justin Holder is in the Yankees bullpen again and Jacob Lindgren is expected to break camp in the Braves bullpen. Hunter Renfroe is the Padres 4th OF. Who am I forgetting?
    Justin in Jonathans little brother. Who probably will be better than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Justin in Jonathans little brother. Who probably will be better than him.
    We on him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    We on him?
    He is in the 9th grade.

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    Renfroe can destroy lefthanders. But can't hit righthanders. He's destined to platoon unless he figures it out. Strikeout/walk ratio is killing him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Kendall Graveman is projected as the A's #1 starter this year, Chris Stratton is expected to be the Giants #5 starter. Pretty amazing what Graveman has become. Moreland will continue to be in a platoon at 1b for the Red Sox this year. Adam Frazier should continue to see lots of ABs for the Pirates 4th OF and backup 2b. Justin Holder is in the Yankees bullpen again and Jacob Lindgren is expected to break camp in the Braves bullpen. Hunter Renfroe is the Padres 4th OF. Who am I forgetting?
    Graveman was pretty good all along. A guy in college who threw a sinker that most hitters could do nothing with but ground it into the turf and then follow up with fastballs in the low 90's. Felt pretty sure he was headed for success in the pros even while at MSU. But yeah, the top pitcher for the A's is really great for him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    Renfroe can destroy lefthanders. But can't hit righthanders. He's destined to platoon unless he figures it out. Strikeout/walk ratio is killing him.
    He's never going to hit for avg. what he can do is hit 25/30 hr. If you want a 275 hitter he's not your guy. Padres should have known this. Some teams deal w it. Some don't or won't. Reds didn't mind Dunn k'd 200 times a year for 40 hr. Same w renfroe. Parallel is the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    He's never going to hit for avg. what he can do is hit 25/30 hr. If you want a 275 hitter he's not your guy. Padres should have known this. Some teams deal w it. Some don't or won't. Reds didn't mind Dunn k'd 200 times a year for 40 hr. Same w renfroe. Parallel is the same
    What killed Renfroe is his OBP (.284). Dunn is similar in that both have big power and terrible defense, but Dunn has a career walk rate of 15.8% which resulted in a career .364 obp. Renfroe just cannot get on base enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    What killed Renfroe is his OBP (.284). Dunn is similar in that both have big power and terrible defense, but Dunn has a career walk rate of 15.8% which resulted in a career .364 obp. Renfroe just cannot get on base enough
    I actually thought Renfroe was one of the better defensive right fielders in the game was he not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choctaw Dawg View Post
    I actually thought Renfroe was one of the better defensive right fielders in the game was he not?
    No. Baseball reference and fangraphs rate him a negative defender in both of his seasons. He was pretty bad according to their ratings last season

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    No. Baseball reference and fangraphs rate him a negative defender in both of his seasons. He was pretty bad according to their ratings last season
    Did they rate anyone as "good"? I'm being serious.

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    Sure.

    2017 fangraph dWAR leaders:
    1. Andrelton Simmons
    2. Anthony rendon
    3. Mookie betts
    4. Brandon Crawford
    5. Francisco lindor
    6. Yadier Molina
    7. Corey seagar
    8. JT realmuto
    9. Byron buxton
    10. Didi gregorius
    Last edited by msstate7; 03-13-2018 at 10:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Sure.

    2017 fangraph dWAR leaders:
    1. Andrelton Simmons
    2. Anthony rendon
    3. Mookie betts
    4. Brandon Crawford
    5. Francisco lindor
    6. Yadier Molina
    7. Corey seagar
    8. JT realmuto
    9. Byron buxton
    10. Didi gregorius
    Not fair to even list these guys. Some of these dudes are HOF type defenders. How did Renfroe rate defensively vs other rookie OFs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Not fair to even list these guys. Some of these dudes are HOF type defenders. How did Renfroe rate defensively vs other rookie OFs?
    Aaron judge = -1.3
    Andrew Benintendi = -3.9
    Manuel Margot = 7.0

    Just 3 I could think of off top of my head. To show you how bad Renfroe was...

    Renfroe = -11.1
    Matt kemp = -13.9

    All dWAR using fangraphs

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    I'll trade dansby for Simmons. BTW Who did we get when we traded Simmons?

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