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01-13-2018, 06:54 AM
#1801
Originally Posted by
msstate7
Urban? 8 since 2014... had several at Florida
ETA... sorry, 5 CBs and 3 safeties since 2014
Urban has done it both at Florida and Ohio State. Les Miles has put more corners at LSU.
For all the hoopla Saban gets for development he's ONLY had 1-2 corners All Pro in the NFL. That's Jackson with the Texans and maybe Kirkpatrick with the Bengals. He teaches them terrible technique to always get "Mossed" by WR's. That equates to a short career in the NFL.
Last edited by bulldawg28; 01-13-2018 at 07:03 AM.
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01-13-2018, 08:59 AM
#1802
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Urban has done it both at Florida and Ohio State. Les Miles has put more corners at LSU.
For all the hoopla Saban gets for development he's ONLY had 1-2 corners All Pro in the NFL. That's Jackson with the Texans and maybe Kirkpatrick with the Bengals. He teaches them terrible technique to always get "Mossed" by WR's. That equates to a short career in the NFL.
Hard to truly judge Saban's development ability anyway given he starts out with the most raw talent of any coach in the NCAA. It would look pretty bad if he didn't have quite a number of secondary players in the NFL.
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01-13-2018, 02:10 PM
#1803
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Urban has done it both at Florida and Ohio State. Les Miles has put more corners at LSU.
For all the hoopla Saban gets for development he's ONLY had 1-2 corners All Pro in the NFL. That's Jackson with the Texans and maybe Kirkpatrick with the Bengals. He teaches them terrible technique to always get "Mossed" by WR's. That equates to a short career in the NFL.
I'll defer to you on the NFL (bc I know less than dick about that)... I just want Saban to develop players (and DBs) well enough win NCs at Bammer... Maybe he'll improve as a coach in that regard over the next few years...
Thanks for the insight.
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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01-13-2018, 02:45 PM
#1804
Do we have any OV's this weekend or next?
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01-13-2018, 02:54 PM
#1805
Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Do we have any OV's this weekend or next?
Zero this weekend from unsigned players. Several next weekend though.
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01-13-2018, 04:19 PM
#1806
Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Zero this weekend from unsigned players. Several next weekend though.
Thanks. Hail State!
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01-13-2018, 04:20 PM
#1807
So recruiting experts, who we finish with?
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01-13-2018, 04:23 PM
#1808
Originally Posted by
msstate7
So recruiting experts, who we finish with?
You are on the wrong thread. This is the how well Saban puts DB's in the NFL thread.*****
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01-13-2018, 04:43 PM
#1809
Originally Posted by
TUSK
I'll defer to you on the NFL (bc I know less than dick about that)... I just want Saban to develop players (and DBs) well enough win NCs at Bammer... Maybe he'll improve as a coach in that regard over the next few years...
Thanks for the insight.
Jimbo Fisher does a great job developing that position. At least he did at Florida State
Last edited by bulldawg28; 01-13-2018 at 05:02 PM.
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01-14-2018, 06:58 PM
#1810
IYOK or Ari,, or both, how do you see us closing out the '18 class including our 5 remaining commits and any surprises you can talk about?
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01-15-2018, 10:39 AM
#1811
Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
IYOK or Ari,, or both, how do you see us closing out the '18 class including our 5 remaining commits and any surprises you can talk about?
I think we sign 7 more. Maybe 8 before all is said and done.
OL - McDowell and Winkel
WR - Patterson ( Juco)
DE - Lovett . Yeah I think we good now. Baker is huge and he finally has smart and rational people in his ear
CB- Smith . I just don’t think he goes to Bama . I think Williams flips to Tenn and I don’t think Furdge is in the class unless we miss on both .
DB - Myles
Ath - Watson. But wouldn’t be shocked at the last hour he flips to Aub.
And we absolutely make room for Caleb Tanner who we have a shot at and make room for Ellis this summer if he qualifies.
Things will change daily next few weeks. But this is where we are today
Last edited by Ari Gold; 01-15-2018 at 10:41 AM.
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01-15-2018, 10:54 AM
#1812
Love what you are saying on Lovett but forgive me if I'm skeptical.
However, if we do win this battle & reverse the momentum of Ole Miss on the player they targeted to flip from us, it would say an awful lot about this new staff's recruiting ability.
I can't help but wonder if Mullen's staff would've even attempted to win Lovett back?
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01-15-2018, 10:59 AM
#1813
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Love what you are saying on Lovett but forgive me if I'm skeptical.
However, if we do win this battle & reverse the momentum of Ole Miss on the player they targeted to flip from us, it would say an awful lot about this new staff's recruiting ability.
I can't help but wonder if Mullen's staff would've even attempted to win Lovett back?
Hell no they wouldn't have attempted. That's work and they have a marathon training schedule to keep.
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01-15-2018, 11:01 AM
#1814
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Love what you are saying on Lovett but forgive me if I'm skeptical.
However, if we do win this battle & reverse the momentum of Ole Miss on the player they targeted to flip from us, it would say an awful lot about this new staff's recruiting ability.
I can't help but wonder if Mullen's staff would've even attempted to win Lovett back?
Wouldn’t be shocked at all if Lovett goes to Umiss. But It’s not a slam dunk as those ****s up north would have everyone think. Lots of bullshit went down while the staff was in Jacksonville ..
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01-15-2018, 11:57 AM
#1815
Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
I think we sign 7 more. Maybe 8 before all is said and done.
OL - McDowell and Winkel
WR - Patterson ( Juco)
DE - Lovett . Yeah I think we good now. Baker is huge and he finally has smart and rational people in his ear
CB- Smith . I just don’t think he goes to Bama . I think Williams flips to Tenn and I don’t think Furdge is in the class unless we miss on both .
DB - Myles
Ath - Watson. But wouldn’t be shocked at the last hour he flips to Aub.
And we absolutely make room for Caleb Tanner who we have a shot at and make room for Ellis this summer if he qualifies.
Things will change daily next few weeks. But this is where we are today
Myles is going to Arkansas
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01-15-2018, 12:16 PM
#1816
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Myles is going to Arkansas
Where have you seen this?
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01-15-2018, 12:39 PM
#1817
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Where have you seen this?
I live here in Alabama in the same town. The word here is he's going to Arkansas. Fyi, the majority of the coaches on staff for his highschool are from Arkansas. The head man coached with Gus there.
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01-15-2018, 01:01 PM
#1818
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
I live here in Alabama in the same town. The word here is he's going to Arkansas. Fyi, the majority of the coaches on staff for his highschool are from Arkansas. The head man coached with Gus there.
Would be absurd to lose a defensive player to Arkansas IMO.
Here is our problem with Mason: I'm sure he just thinks he is doing the lord's work.
For some reason coaches getting involved like this, especially when both schools are out of state to the player, just agitates me.
Last edited by ShotgunDawg; 01-15-2018 at 01:05 PM.
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01-15-2018, 01:41 PM
#1819
So I go to look at 247 CBs and see Tyrese heard as the lead story for the day. Kinda gives me the feeling our staff agrees with bulldawg28 that mason to ark
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01-15-2018, 01:48 PM
#1820
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
I live here in Alabama in the same town. The word here is he's going to Arkansas. Fyi, the majority of the coaches on staff for his highschool are from Arkansas. The head man coached with Gus there.
Amazing the manipulation of HS coaches with some of these kids. He is being pushed to go about 4 times further away from his family to play for a program in much worse shape than ours? Ridiculous.
Last edited by maroonmania; 01-15-2018 at 01:54 PM.
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