Why Ole Miss should be afraid of coming NCAA sanctions

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I still don't see the DP happening, but if the NCAA has found that UM won't stop cheating long enough for them to stop their investigation, what other option do they have?

I see alot of people saying that they don't expect DP. Just curious to your reason. Is it because that is what you want but it would be too good to be true and you don't want to jinx it? Because as laid out in the original post, it is possible and I am feeling lately like it is more likely.

[Dawgology]

I see alot of people saying that they don't expect DP. Just curious to your reason. Is it because that is what you want but it would be too good to be true and you don't want to jinx it? Because as laid out in the original post, it is possible and I am feeling lately like it is more likely.

I think this is it exactly. Ya'll are going to start listening to me after all of this.

[bulldogcountry1]

I see alot of people saying that they don't expect DP. Just curious to your reason. Is it because that is what you want but it would be too good to be true and you don't want to jinx it? Because as laid out in the original post, it is possible and I am feeling lately like it is more likely.

My main reasoning is that I just don't know all the facts, so it's hard for me to expect the worst case punishment. Also, I just couldn't see a big money SEC school being given the DP, unless they kept breaking the rules after sanctions were handed out. But, the more this thing goes on and gets crazier and crazier, it seems possible...if half of the rumors are true.

[sandwolf]

I see alot of people saying that they don't expect DP. Just curious to your reason. Is it because that is what you want but it would be too good to be true and you don't want to jinx it? Because as laid out in the original post, it is possible and I am feeling lately like it is more likely.

It is delusional to think that the death penalty is even a consideration based on what was in the first NOA. And for it to become a legitimate consideration, the amended NOA would have to be completely nuclear. They would need something like hard evidence of OM coaches actively working with a group of boosters to provide benefits to recruits or players (in other words, solid evidence of the network), or they would need for the Tunsil draft night fiasco to have lead them to hard evidence of a big pay for play scheme involving multiple players totaling large dollar amounts.......the allegations have to be eye popping.

The NCAA has enough to hammer OM, and I think that is exactly what they are going to do. But they aren't going to issue the death penalty to a school that isn't a repeat offender without hard evidence of widespread cheating throughout the program, and that is really hard to come by without subpoena power.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

...without hard evidence

This is it. We all know it is happening, it is just whether or not they were smart enough to cover it up. I honestly think the NCAA does have hard evidence of this happening and they are about to go Negan on OM.

[iPat09]

This is it. We all know it is happening, it is just whether or not they were smart enough to cover it up well enough. I honestly think the NCAA does have hard evidence of this happening and they are about to go Negan on OM.

You mean like this?

https://youtu.be/EtebQUwGNO0

[WSOPdawg]

It is delusional to think that the death penalty is even a consideration based on what was in the first NOA. And for it to become a legitimate consideration, the amended NOA would have to be completely nuclear. They would need something like hard evidence of OM coaches actively working with a group of boosters to provide benefits to recruits or players (in other words, solid evidence of the network), or they would need for the Tunsil draft night fiasco to have lead them to hard evidence of a big pay for play scheme involving multiple players totaling large dollar amounts.......the allegations have to be eye popping.

The NCAA has enough to hammer OM, and I think that is exactly what they are going to do. But they aren't going to issue the death penalty to a school that isn't a repeat offender without hard evidence of widespread cheating throughout the program, and that is really hard to come by without subpoena power.

Like Tunsil texts implicating Barney on cash payments, or prospective Tunsil's familyhousing being paid for by a booster, or Coach Hugh Freeze taking prospects to a booster's house for "freebie benefits," or... oh for God's sake, they've been doing this stuff for the better part of a decade now.

This is exactly why Ole Miss should be worried about the NCAA and what they're gonna do to their program. As Dawg-Gone alluded to, here comes Lucille.

[Johnson85]

Like Tunsil texts implicating Barney on cash payments, or prospective Tunsil's familyhousing being paid for by a booster, or Coach Hugh Freeze taking prospects to a booster's house for "freebie benefits," or... oh for God's sake, they've been doing this stuff for the better part of a decade now.

This is exactly why Ole Miss should be worried about the NCAA and what they're gonna do to their program. As Dawg-Gone alluded to, here comes Lucille.

Ole Miss should be worried, but not about the death penalty. The death penaly would impact other members of the conference too much. None of the power conferences woudl want the death penalty to be on the table for any of their members. Sanctions thath cripple a program but dont' mess with TV contracts or scheduling conferences can handle, but they're not going to sign off on a situation that screws up their tv schedule for football, so it's not going to happen. At worst Ole Miss would end up having to fill out a team with mostly walk-ons.

[smootness]

It is delusional to think that the death penalty is even a consideration based on what was in the first NOA. And for it to become a legitimate consideration, the amended NOA would have to be completely nuclear. They would need something like hard evidence of OM coaches actively working with a group of boosters to provide benefits to recruits or players (in other words, solid evidence of the network), or they would need for the Tunsil draft night fiasco to have lead them to hard evidence of a big pay for play scheme involving multiple players totaling large dollar amounts.......the allegations have to be eye popping.

The NCAA has enough to hammer OM, and I think that is exactly what they are going to do. But they aren't going to issue the death penalty to a school that isn't a repeat offender without hard evidence of widespread cheating throughout the program, and that is really hard to come by without subpoena power.

Exactly this. We can talk all day about rumors of what is going on and what the NCAA has found or may find or whatever. But unless it's on the NOA, it won't affect anything. So we have to see the addendum before we can start to speculate on punishment. The violations in the first NOA are probably good for a bowl ban for a year or two and a pretty significant loss of scholarships. In order to reach a place where they considered the death penalty, the addendum would have to be about 5 times as bad as what is on the initial NOA.