The US....

[Outside Dawg]

I care. They should be embarrassed. One of the worst nights in US Soccer history. Fire Bruce.

[Liverpooldawg]

I care. They should be embarrassed. One of the worst nights in US Soccer history. Fire Bruce.

And fire whoever hired him. Any player who has national team aspirations needs to be in Europe. I'd rather see them playing for Brentford or even Southend that playing the MLS. MLS is fun to watch, but the competition is no better than third tier in Europe. It sucks but it is what it is.

[ShotgunDawg]

And fire whoever hired him. Any player who has national team aspirations needs to be in Europe. I'd rather see them playing for Brentford or even Southend that playing the MLS. MLS is fun to watch, but the competition is no better than third tier in Europe. It sucks but it is what it is.

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USNT needs to take hiring a new coach seriously. The time for lazy hires is over. Soccer in this country has come way to far over the past 20 years to make lazy, nostalgia hires.

Whoever hired Arena should be fired with Arena & the USNT needs to go far & wide to find a Saban/Belichick type personality that can take this program to the next level.

Perhaps in the end, this will be best for the national team as the embarrassment will force much needed changes.

[BrunswickDawg]

And fire whoever hired him. Any player who has national team aspirations needs to be in Europe. I'd rather see them playing for Brentford or even Southend that playing the MLS. MLS is fun to watch, but the competition is no better than third tier in Europe. It sucks but it is what it is.

I disagree. Atlanta was fun as hell to watch this season. The problem is MLS is too big and the talent pool too spread out. Break the top 15/16 into MLS Premiership, then drop the rest into MLS 1st Division. That will force teams to consolidate talent or get relegated. Let teams develop organically - like Detroit and Miami in USL have and let them their way up and develop talent and fan bases.

[Liverpooldawg]

I disagree. Atlanta was fun as hell to watch this season. The problem is MLS is too big and the talent pool too spread out. Break the top 15/16 into MLS Premiership, then drop the rest into MLS 1st Division. That will force teams to consolidate talent or get relegated. Let teams develop organically - like Detroit and Miami in USL have and let them their way up and develop talent and fan bases.

MLS is fun, and the crowds are getting better all the time, but the level of competition is just not good. It?s seen as a retirement league in Europe. The Latin Americans that come are the ones that have little to no shot at Europe or playing big time in Argentina, Brazil, or Mexico. The US team has declined as more of the bigger stars came home. Until we produce enough homegrown players to staff MLS at a higher level it?s always going to be that way. For now the guys in the national team need to be in Europe, even if it?s not a top tier league. In England the championship is defiantly better than MLS. I think League one is at least as good, and it?s a tougher, more hard nosed league. It will build backbone more than MLS will at the moment.