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[msstate7]

we wont, since Carmago is a utility bench bat.

You must want to argue haha

[MetEdDawg]

You must want to argue haha

Well there's a lot of folks that think Camargo is a bench bat. I wouldn't count on it personally based on the types of things he's doing at the plate and the approach he takes. He's a good hitter and will be around long enough to prove folks wrong as long as he stays healthy. The stats say his stretch has statistically been at worst comparable to Swanson's 2016 season.

Swanson had a couple percentage points higher K%, lower WAR, lower ISO, lower slugging %, few other things. Camargo is going to be fine, but the hype around Swanson and Albeis is and has been so high that people have to say Camargo can't fit into the plans. So many people see these guys in AA and AAA and these certain guys get hyped like crazy. Camargo wasn't one of those. Camargo will be on the 25 man roster next year and unless he has just an abysmal end of the season, I bet he starts opening day.

[BoomBoom]

Well there's a lot of folks that think Camargo is a bench bat. I wouldn't count on it personally based on the types of things he's doing at the plate and the approach he takes. He's a good hitter and will be around long enough to prove folks wrong as long as he stays healthy. The stats say his stretch has statistically been at worst comparable to Swanson's 2016 season.

Swanson had a couple percentage points higher K%, lower WAR, lower ISO, lower slugging %, few other things. Camargo is going to be fine, but the hype around Swanson and Albeis is and has been so high that people have to say Camargo can't fit into the plans. So many people see these guys in AA and AAA and these certain guys get hyped like crazy. Camargo wasn't one of those. Camargo will be on the 25 man roster next year and unless he has just an abysmal end of the season, I bet he starts opening day.

i wish i could find the article, but this question was asked of an expert, i think Keith Law, and he pointed out stats that makes the case he is a Utility guy even better than anyone here did. Even though his BABIP is extremely high, his line drive %, his exit velocity, etc, all the stats that would show if he was just barreling the ball or getting lucky, show that he's just been lucky. he's not hitting the ball hard, he's not hitting line drives, but his BABIP is high = lucky.

if Swanson never adjusts to the slider, then they will slide Albies over and go find a 2B. it won't be Carmago. he is the current Jace Peterson.

ETA, found it:

“Coming up through the Braves system Johan Camargo was primarily known solely for his defense. He carried with him the ability to hit for contact, but that was about it, from an offensive standpoint. Even taking into consideration the small sample size and all, is Camargo’s early success sustainable? And also, I’m just curious, but should the Braves consider trading Johan Camargo over the off-season?” — Richard C.

I don’t think it’s all that sustainable. Camargo’s sporting a .371 BABIP that is 30 points higher than his mark in a small sample at Triple-A this year and nearly 60 points higher than the .317 mark he had in a full season at Double-A in 2016. He’s doing so despite the fact that his 27.2 percent hard-contact rate is more than five percent worse than the league average. Camargo doesn’t make much hard contact — there are more than 200 players with a higher average exit velocity than his 87.3 mph — and he hasn’t shown much in the way of discipline. He’s posted a 4.4 percent walk rate and a 36 percent chase rate on pitches out of the strike (league average this year is 29.8 percent).

Maybe he’s a useful utility player moving forward, but I can’t imagine him displacing Swanson or Albies as a long-term piece in the middle infield. (Camargo is at .302/.331/.477 through 182 PAs to Swanson’s .273/.330/.406 through his first 183 career PAs at a younger age and without any Triple-A development.) I also can’t envision any team parting with a significant haul to get him based on roughly two months of largely BABIP-fueled production. His bat is already coming back down to earth; it’ll take signs of more sustainable improvement to buy into him as a future regular."