Is Mullen/MSU football taking another step?

[ShotgunDawg]

I talked to a HS coach that attended one of our spring practices and he said the one thing that stood out in his mind was Hevesy and how he wouldn't want any of his kids playing for him....

Not a Hevesy fan here, but I wonder if the myth of him being a bad coach has surpassed the reality.

1. How come none of our former players ever have a bad thing to say about Hevesy? Not saying he's great, but if he were awful, wouldn't one of the former players have said something publicly by now?

2. I would question if your HS coach friend was an MSU fan & if he already had a poor perception of Hevesy before attending practice. Just seems like their could have been a heavy dose of confirmation bias here if your HS coach friend was able to attend one single practice & determine that he wouldn't want his kids playing for Hev. Again, not a fan here & not saying he's wrong, but it seems like the myth may have surpasses reality at this point. I mean, the guy has now been an SEC OL coach for 8 years &, unless we have the wrong RB or QB playing, we've virtually been able to run the football the entire time. So he can't be awful & accomplish that.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Not a Hevesy fan here, but I wonder if the myth of him being a bad coach has surpassed the reality.

1. How come none of our former players ever have a bad thing to say about Hevesy? Not saying he's great, but if he were awful, wouldn't one of the former players have said something publicly by now?

2. I would question if your HS coach friend was an MSU fan & if he already had a poor perception of Hevesy before attending practice. Just seems like their could have been a heavy dose of confirmation bias here if your HS coach friend was able to attend one single practice & determine that he wouldn't want his kids playing for Hev. Again, not a fan here & not saying he's wrong, but it seems like the myth may have surpasses reality at this point. I mean, the guy has now been an SEC OL coach for 8 years &, unless we have the wrong RB or QB playing, we've virtually been able to run the football the entire time. So he can't be awful & accomplish that.

The High School Coach is a MSU Grad....we have never been able to run the ball against an upper tier SEC defense...

[ShotgunDawg]

The High School Coach is a MSU Grad....we have never been able to run the ball against an upper tier SEC defense...

No one runs against those guys. Your friend being an MSU fan tells me that he had preconceived notions about Hevesy and likely used a healthy dose of confirmation bias.

Not saying he's wrong, but I'd be much more interested in the opinion of someone not associated with anything MSU. A fresh set of eyes. Your buddy maybe a great coach, but even great coaches are still fans of their favorite team and become emotional.

[Tbonewannabe]

No one runs against those guys. Your friend being an MSU fan tells me that he had preconceived notions about Hevesy and likely used a healthy dose of confirmation bias.

Not saying he's wrong, but I'd be much more interested in the opinion of someone not associated with anything MSU. A fresh set of eyes. Your buddy maybe a great coach, but even great coaches are still fans of their favorite team and become emotional.

It could also be a difference in coaching styles that he dislikes. Some coaches don't like the get all in your ass yelling technique. Could be the difference between a coach like Cohen and Canny.

[BrunswickDawg]

No one runs against those guys. Your friend being an MSU fan tells me that he had preconceived notions about Hevesy and likely used a healthy dose of confirmation bias.

Not saying he's wrong, but I'd be much more interested in the opinion of someone not associated with anything MSU. A fresh set of eyes. Your buddy maybe a great coach, but even great coaches are still fans of their favorite team and become emotional.

So here is a question I've wanted to ask for a long time -
Who played a sport at a high level (top tier HS, college, or pro) who didn't have either a head coach/assistant coach/position coach that was a dick? I played top tier HS baseball and summer leagues (pre-travel ball era) in Georgia, and the number of dick coaches I encountered goes head-to-head with the number of "likeable" coaches. My HS strength coach was a dick. The OL coach, RB coach, and DB coach at my HS had reps as being dicks. But, players busted their asses for them. Some of the dickish coaches I had ended up being my favorite coaches I've ever played for. At some positions, like OL coach, the majority of coaches I've ever met had the rep as being a dick. What makes Hev such an uber dick?

[Liverpooldawg]

The High School Coach is a MSU Grad....we have never been able to run the ball against an upper tier SEC defense...

Serious question: Who does?

[ILOATHEBears]

Not a Hevesy fan here, but I wonder if the myth of him being a bad coach has surpassed the reality.

1. How come none of our former players ever have a bad thing to say about Hevesy? Not saying he's great, but if he were awful, wouldn't one of the former players have said something publicly by now?

2. I would question if your HS coach friend was an MSU fan & if he already had a poor perception of Hevesy before attending practice. Just seems like their could have been a heavy dose of confirmation bias here if your HS coach friend was able to attend one single practice & determine that he wouldn't want his kids playing for Hev. Again, not a fan here & not saying he's wrong, but it seems like the myth may have surpasses reality at this point. I mean, the guy has now been an SEC OL coach for 8 years &, unless we have the wrong RB or QB playing, we've virtually been able to run the football the entire time. So he can't be awful & accomplish that.

I would say Hev if u have ever spent 5 minutes with the guy u would think he is a jerk however once his players are in he really builds great relationships with them. I've seen him grab a couple of oline and go watch a men's basketball game and they are cutting up having a good time. Hev issue recruiting is he needs to recruit the high school coaches first. He needs a strong rapport with them first to ever get to the player because they are the gatekeeper in most instances but when u walk in all Billy Bada$$ and I'm the sec coach acting bigger/better than the gatekeeper then u don't get far