Evidence that Dan was shopping himself before the Egg Bowl

[Todd4State]

The reality is we haven't had that many winning seasons in that short a span since the 40s. It doesn't fit your narrative but it's the truth. I'm greatful to Mullen for several things I thought I'd never see. That being said he is gone. He has moved on. I've moved on. It's time we all did.


Another thing: If JoMo is successful the rumors will start almost immediately. I hope they do!

There is no narrative. You're clueless about the state of college football now compared to decades past.

In 1989- 1990 we had two 5-6 seasons under Felker. In today's game with the added FCS team and added bowls both of those teams are bowl teams- much like Dan's 2011 and 2013 teams.

Between 1991-2000 Jackie would have gone:

1991- 8-5
1992- 8-5
1993- Who knows? Would have been 6-6 at best but with no OT we had two ties. I'm going to split hairs and guess that we beat Arkansas State in OT and lose to Arkansas on the road in Little Rock in OT to go 5-7. This would have been our first non-bowl season in four years by today's standards.
1994- 9-4
1995- 4-8
1996- 6-6
1997- 8-4 This team didn't go bowling despite 7 wins.
1998- 9-5 SEC West Champs
1999- 11-2
2000- 9-4

So, between 1996-2000 Jackie would have gone to four bowls in a row by today's standards. And would have definitively gone to 8 in 10 years while the program would have definitively gone to 10 in 12 years overall. And if things go our way in OT in 1993 it's 9 in 10 years and 11 in 12 years.

The 2000's sucked for us not because of our history but because we were being investigated, on probation, and made a bad hire that still managed to make a bowl in 2007. After 2009 we went right back on our trajectory in the 1990's- except with fewer big time wins than the 1990's.

2009- 5-7
2010- 9-4
2011- 7-6
2012- 8-5
2013- 7-6
2014- 10-3
2015- 9-4
2016- 6-7
2017- 9-4

[BuckyIsAB****]

There is no narrative. You're clueless about the state of college football now compared to decades past.

In 1989- 1990 we had two 5-6 seasons under Felker. In today's game with the added FCS team and added bowls both of those teams are bowl teams- much like Dan's 2011 and 2013 teams.

Between 1991-2000 Jackie would have gone:

1991- 8-5
1992- 8-5
1993- Who knows? Would have been 6-6 at best but with no OT we had two ties. I'm going to split hairs and guess that we beat Arkansas State in OT and lose to Arkansas on the road in Little Rock in OT to go 5-7. This would have been our first non-bowl season in four years by today's standards.
1994- 9-4
1995- 4-8
1996- 6-6
1997- 8-4 This team didn't go bowling despite 7 wins.
1998- 9-5 SEC West Champs
1999- 11-2
2000- 9-4

So, between 1996-2000 Jackie would have gone to four bowls in a row by today's standards. And would have definitively gone to 8 in 10 years while the program would have definitively gone to 10 in 12 years overall. And if things go our way in OT in 1993 it's 9 in 10 years and 11 in 12 years.

The 2000's sucked for us not because of our history but because we were being investigated, on probation, and made a bad hire that still managed to make a bowl in 2007. After 2009 we went right back on our trajectory in the 1990's- except with fewer big time wins than the 1990's.

2009- 5-7
2010- 9-4
2011- 7-6
2012- 8-5
2013- 7-6
2014- 10-3
2015- 9-4
2016- 6-7
2017- 9-4

Rep. Liverpool thinks we dont deserve no better than living with the shoes.

We should be glad Mullen used us!!! We were number 1 for like 5 weeks dude!!***

[Liverpooldawg]

Rep. Liverpool thinks we dont deserve no better than living with the shoes.

We should be glad Mullen used us!!! We were number 1 for like 5 weeks dude!!***

Unreal. EVERY coach uses every team. It?s a job and a business. JoMo is doing the same. So did Jackie.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Unreal. EVERY coach uses every team. It?s a job and a business. JoMo is doing the same. So did Jackie.

No they dont. According to you and others Mullen was never using us to begin with

[MagicDawg]

Yawn.
C'mawn.
He gawn.
Moving awn.

Get off my lawn.

[Liverpooldawg]

Yawn.
C'mawn.
He gawn.
Moving awn.

Get off my lawn.

Yep.

[Liverpooldawg]

No they dont. According to you and others Mullen was never using us to begin with

Yes they do. They use us and we use them. That's the way the world works.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Yes they do. They use us and we use them. That's the way the world works.

Mike Gundy talked to UT but he didnt do it the day before they played oklahoma. So is it you're wrong or Mullen was just sorry? In Liverpools world we shouldve built mullen a statue and should feel grateful he blessed us with his presence for 9 years

[BrunswickDawg]

The 2000's sucked for us not because of our history but because we were being investigated, on probation, and made a bad hire that still managed to make a bowl in 2007. After 2009 we went right back on our trajectory in the 1990's- except with fewer big time wins than the 1990's.

Good post Todd, but I'm going to push back a little on the more "Big Wins" in the 90s. I consider "Big Wins" as SEC games, Top 25 wins, P5 Regular season wins, and Bowls.
JWS - 42-60-1 (.408) vs.SEC; 9-34 (.209) v. Top 25; 5-4 (.556) v. P5 in regular season; and 2-4 (.333) in Bowls
CDM - 31-41 (.431) v SEC; 7-33 (.175) v. Top 25 (in 4 fewer seasons); 1-3 (.250) v. P5; and 6-2 (.750) in Bowls

The only real difference is Jackie beat Alabama and Dan didn't, and Dan played far tougher SEC competition season to season.

[Bully13]

Good post Todd, but I'm going to push back a little on the more "Big Wins" in the 90s. I consider "Big Wins" as SEC games, Top 25 wins, P5 Regular season wins, and Bowls.
JWS - 42-60-1 (.408) vs.SEC; 9-34 (.209) v. Top 25; 5-4 (.556) v. P5 in regular season; and 2-4 (.333) in Bowls
CDM - 31-41 (.431) v SEC; 7-33 (.175) v. Top 25 (in 4 fewer seasons); 1-3 (.250) v. P5; and 6-2 (.750) in Bowls

The only real difference is Jackie beat Alabama and Dan didn't, and Dan played far tougher SEC competition season to season.

Deldte

[Todd4State]

Good post Todd, but I'm going to push back a little on the more "Big Wins" in the 90s. I consider "Big Wins" as SEC games, Top 25 wins, P5 Regular season wins, and Bowls.
JWS - 42-60-1 (.408) vs.SEC; 9-34 (.209) v. Top 25; 5-4 (.556) v. P5 in regular season; and 2-4 (.333) in Bowls
CDM - 31-41 (.431) v SEC; 7-33 (.175) v. Top 25 (in 4 fewer seasons); 1-3 (.250) v. P5; and 6-2 (.750) in Bowls

The only real difference is Jackie beat Alabama and Dan didn't, and Dan played far tougher SEC competition season to season.

I just consider big wins very broadly- top 25 wins. It should be noted that Jackie's last three seasons skew his SEC and overall win totals when you compare them to today.

[bulldawg28]

I just consider big wins very broadly- top 25 wins. It should be noted that Jackie's last three seasons skew his SEC and overall win totals when you compare them to today.

There is no skewing he sucked it up big time during those years. It is exactly what it is. Your making excuses. His entire body of work is less than Mullen.

[ababyatemydingo]

Do you understand the definition of skewing? And apparently you didn?t watch much MSU football in the 90?s. I know sitting my ass in the Georgia dome for the sec championship game felt a lot better than sitting my ass in Bryant Denny in 2014.

[Todd4State]

There is no skewing he sucked it up big time during those years. It is exactly what it is. Your making excuses. His entire body of work is less than Mullen.

Actually it looks the same at worst even if you include his last three seasons.