Baseball the last 10 years....

[Doggie_Style]

we are without a doubt at a fork in the road. If Cohen makes the right hire we are back in business.....if he makes a mediocre hire like the Cann fiasco then we are screwed for a decade...

[dawgs]

we are without a doubt at a fork in the road. If Cohen makes the right hire we are back in business.....if he makes a mediocre hire like the Cann fiasco then we are screwed for a decade...

I don't really blame Cohen for cann. We weren't pulling a proven HC in November after Cohen took the AD gig. Cann appeared to be a good coach with a promising future after 2017. Stacked recruiting classes, a super regional appearance, best stadium in the country incoming, we were all stoked for the future under cann. No one could predict that he wouldn't be able to keep his dick in his pants and would be more interested in sexting his side piece instead of coaching the team heading into year 2. Cohen now has an opportunity to make a hire in the normal course of coaching turnover (vs. a hire after fall practice), and I can't imagine there will be a more desirable gig out there come the end of the season than MSU. I understand why he hired an unknown giving the timing before, but there no excuse to not go get a guy with a proven track record this time around because timing ain't an excuse.

I do think the right hire will turn us around overnight. There is no excuse to not at least be a regional team next year, and by 2020 be competing for a national seed/sec title/CWS spot, and that should be the status quo moving forward. Otherwise why even invest in the facilities like we have if we are going to merely expect a 3 year cycle of losing/mediocre season > regional > maybe CWS > start over. We should be able to restock, not rebuild, and the right hire will have our down years as 2 seeds in a regional, not a losing record.

[Todd4State]

I don't really blame Cohen for cann. We weren't pulling a proven HC in November after Cohen took the AD gig. Cann appeared to be a good coach with a promising future after 2017. Stacked recruiting classes, a super regional appearance, best stadium in the country incoming, we were all stoked for the future under cann. No one could predict that he wouldn't be able to keep his dick in his pants and would be more interested in sexting his side piece instead of coaching the team heading into year 2. Cohen now has an opportunity to make a hire in the normal course of coaching turnover (vs. a hire after fall practice), and I can't imagine there will be a more desirable gig out there come the end of the season than MSU. I understand why he hired an unknown giving the timing before, but there no excuse to not go get a guy with a proven track record this time around because timing ain't an excuse.

Cohen is certainly partially to blame. If we have the interest that we allegedly do now I guarantee that we would have had the same interest in our job and a much larger pool to draw from than we did in November of 2016 by going through 2017 with Henderson as the interim coach and then hiring someone elite in the offseason.

[dawgs]

Cohen is certainly partially to blame. If we have the interest that we allegedly do now I guarantee that we would have had the same interest in our job and a much larger pool to draw from than we did in November of 2016 by going through 2017 with Henderson as the interim coach and then hiring someone elite in the offseason.

No elite HC is going to leave a HC job in November after fall practice. Just not happening. Sure, we could've maybe mailed in the 2017 season with Henderson as interim and gone with a full search at the end of the season, but I don't fault Cohen for going an getting a guy who appeared to be a rising star (and who produced on the field in 2017 beyond all our expectations). The off field stuff was unpredictable (unless there were known extramarital affairs before and we overlooked them).

[Todd4State]

No elite HC is going to leave a HC job in November after fall practice. Just not happening. Sure, we could've maybe mailed in the 2017 season with Henderson as interim and gone with a full search at the end of the season, but I don't fault Cohen for going an getting a guy who appeared to be a rising star (and who produced on the field in 2017 beyond all our expectations). The off field stuff was unpredictable (unless there were known extramarital affairs before and we overlooked them).

Obviously I agree that no elite coach is going to join us in November. But if Cohen is right about the interest in our job it tells me that he either 1. underestimated the potential of our job or 2. he took a needless chance. What we did would be like Alabama hiring Hugh Freeze coming off of being an OC somewhere when they could have had Saban or Urban Meyer.

[dawgs]

Obviously I agree that no elite coach is going to join us in November. But if Cohen is right about the interest in our job it tells me that he either 1. underestimated the potential of our job or 2. he took a needless chance. What we did would be like Alabama hiring Hugh Freeze coming off of being an OC somewhere when they could have had Saban or Urban Meyer.

Well, as much potential as we have in baseball, we aren't bama in football. It'd be like if Doug Petersen stepped down at Washington in June, and instead of going with an interim HC (in a season where they hope to make another playoff run), the hire a top notch coordinator. The coordinator gets them to a NY6 bowl (~equivalent of a SR) and everyone is stoked for the future. Cohen probably thought we still had a chance to be good in 2017 and going with an interim he wasn't committed too either leads to throwing away a season or if we were good, putting us in an awkward position of not giving the permanent gig to an interim we aren't excited about (and probably ripped in the media for it and potentially turning off coaches who perceive us having unrealistic expectations if we don't want the interim who just took us to a SR or even just a regional). It was a calculated risk that appeared to be paying off until events we could not possibly anticipate went down.