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    Completely agree.

    If our players want to be better than Bama then you have to play like Bama every Saturday.

    You can't just pick & choose when you will play well. It has to become a habit & you must hold yourself to a standard.

    Last night showed me that Dan Mullen can win a national title at MSU. We went toe to toe with the most talented team in America with no gimmicks, no tricks, & pure smash mouth football. Playing the way we did last night with some slight talent upgrades at WR & DB, give us a chance to beat anyone in America.

    However, what makes Bama Bama is that they do it every weekend & that is what we have to show the next two weeks.

    Championship programs play like champions every week. Our guys have got to find a way to put last night behind them, get, focused, & knock the hell out of Arkansas next Saturday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Completely agree.

    If our players want to be better than Bama then you have to play like Bama every Saturday.

    You can't just pick & choose when you will play well. It has to become a habit & you must hold yourself to a standard.

    Last night showed me that Dan Mullen can win a national title at MSU. We went toe to toe with the most talented team in America with no gimmicks, no tricks, & pure smash mouth football. Playing the way we did last night with some slight talent upgrades at WR & DB, give us a chance to beat anyone in America.

    However, what makes Bama Bama is that they do it every weekend & that is what we have to show the next two weeks.

    Championship programs play like champions every week. Our guys have got to find a way to put last night behind them, get, focused, & knock the hell out of Arkansas next Saturday morning.


    The only way you can play like Bama every week is be Bama. Bama can't be up for every game, but Bama normaly has better players than other teams so they can win that way. This was a big emotional loss and it's difficult to get up the next week for a game. I would hope that we could beat ARK, with better talent and coaching and then be really fired up when OM comes in. Teams being able to turn on a switch and just be up for every game is just not reality. JWS has said that many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    The only way you can play like Bama every week is be Bama. Bama can't be up for every game, but Bama normaly has better players than other teams so they can win that way. This was a big emotional loss and it's difficult to get up the next week for a game. I would hope that we could beat ARK, with better talent and coaching and then be really fired up when OM comes in. Teams being able to turn on a switch and just be up for every game is just not reality. JWS has said that many times.
    No excuses

    This program is building towards a championship style of football. To do that, the expectations & standards must be raised.

    Although there are all the reasons in the world to have a let down game next weekend (I get it) everyone in this program from the players, coaches, & fans have to demand all week that that does not happen. Our players took to twitter last night saying they were better than Bama. Well.... lets see it. No excuses & I don't expect anyone here to make them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    No excuses

    This program is building towards a championship style of football. To do that, the expectations & standards must be raised.

    Although there are all the reasons in the world to have a let down game next weekend (I get it) everyone in this program from the players, coaches, & fans have to demand all week that that does not happen. Our players took to twitter last night saying they were better than Bama. Well.... lets see it. No excuses & I don't expect anyone here to make them either.

    I want an SEC West Championship and a National Championship as much as anybody else but I think some of your expectations are a little unrealsitic On just shaking things off and being up for the ARK game, I hope they can! I believe Jackie said you can get up for maybe 4 games a year and have maybe 2 letdown games and the let down games and the other games you have to win with better players and coaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    I want an SEC West Championship and a National Championship as much as anybody else but I think some of your expectations are a little unrealsitic On just shaking things off and being up for the ARK game, I hope they can! I believe Jackie said you can get up for maybe 4 games a year and have maybe 2 letdown games and the let down games and the other games you have to win with better players and coaching.
    Nothing is unrealistic. Stop making excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    I want an SEC West Championship and a National Championship as much as anybody else but I think some of your expectations are a little unrealsitic On just shaking things off and being up for the ARK game, I hope they can! I believe Jackie said you can get up for maybe 4 games a year and have maybe 2 letdown games and the let down games and the other games you have to win with better players and coaching.
    Honestly our ceiling is 12-0 during the regular season. Will we get there? Maybe not. And you know what? If we don't and we only average 9-10 wins over the next few years it's OK. If we do reach that ceiling it's going to be unbelieveable. The better you get and the higher you go the more difficult it is to achieve goals. But when you are an 8 win team like we are now getting to 9-10 needs to be the goal or we will get stagnant.

    And like Dan said after we win the first championship the next goal is to win the next championship after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Completely agree.

    If our players want to be better than Bama then you have to play like Bama every Saturday.

    You can't just pick & choose when you will play well. It has to become a habit & you must hold yourself to a standard.

    Last night showed me that Dan Mullen can win a national title at MSU. We went toe to toe with the most talented team in America with no gimmicks, no tricks, & pure smash mouth football. Playing the way we did last night with some slight talent upgrades at WR & DB, give us a chance to beat anyone in America.

    However, what makes Bama Bama is that they do it every weekend & that is what we have to show the next two weeks.

    Championship programs play like champions every week. Our guys have got to find a way to put last night behind them, get, focused, & knock the hell out of Arkansas next Saturday morning.
    THIS 100%.

    I don't expect us to win a National Championship every year- but if we come out with this attitude we will give ourselves a chance to maximize our talent and further our program beyond what many of our fans expected or dreamed of. All I really ask is that we win the games we're supposed to- Dan has done that at probably over 90% which is acceptable to me- and then in the games against the SEC bluebloods play as hard as we can and give ourselves a chance to win- last night was acceptable. We won't win every game against every blueblood- but we will give ourselves a good chance at pulling it off from time to time.

    Our fans are scarred from Jackie and his "you can only get up for three games theory". That may or may not be true- but the problem is he coached like that. And you can't do that- that's how you beat Alabama and Ole Miss and then lose to Louisiana Tech and Kentucky in the same season. Or beat Alabama and Auburn but lose to a 3 win LSU team by 35 and an average Arkansas team. Dan is a better coach than that- and that's why I love some of the things he does like "We don't lose to Kentucky". That sets the tone and expectation and raises awareness and intensity just enough that it's only happened once in his tenure even though they aren't a rival. And that was with a Sirmon defense and on a long field goal at the end of the game.

    I think this loss could have an opposite effect too though- it may make our guys more focused on what they need to do to get to the Alabama level and more confidence in themselves than ever. And based on the stats I could totally see us tearing Arkansas and Ole Miss a new one on the ground. I'm sure we'll give up a few bombs to both of them but it is what it is at this point. We should be good enough to play well enough to beat both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    THIS 100%.

    I don't expect us to win a National Championship every year- but if we come out with this attitude we will give ourselves a chance to maximize our talent and further our program beyond what many of our fans expected or dreamed of. All I really ask is that we win the games we're supposed to- Dan has done that at probably over 90% which is acceptable to me- and then in the games against the SEC bluebloods play as hard as we can and give ourselves a chance to win- last night was acceptable. We won't win every game against every blueblood- but we will give ourselves a good chance at pulling it off from time to time.

    Our fans are scarred from Jackie and his "you can only get up for three games theory". That may or may not be true- but the problem is he coached like that. And you can't do that- that's how you beat Alabama and Ole Miss and then lose to Louisiana Tech and Kentucky in the same season. Or beat Alabama and Auburn but lose to a 3 win LSU team by 35 and an average Arkansas team. Dan is a better coach than that- and that's why I love some of the things he does like "We don't lose to Kentucky". That sets the tone and expectation and raises awareness and intensity just enough that it's only happened once in his tenure even though they aren't a rival. And that was with a Sirmon defense and on a long field goal at the end of the game.

    I think this loss could have an opposite effect too though- it may make our guys more focused on what they need to do to get to the Alabama level and more confidence in themselves than ever. And based on the stats I could totally see us tearing Arkansas and Ole Miss a new one on the ground. I'm sure we'll give up a few bombs to both of them but it is what it is at this point. We should be good enough to play well enough to beat both of them.
    Totally agree.

    Jackie may be right or Jackie may be wrong but that quote is a terrible excuse that MSU fans continue to use, and, to be honest, I can?t imagine Mullen ever saying this.

    The point is that we should and must hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Totally agree.

    Jackie may be right or Jackie may be wrong but that quote is a terrible excuse that MSU fans continue to use, and, to be honest, I can?t imagine Mullen ever saying this.

    The point is that we should and must hold ourselves to a higher standard than this.
    I can't either- last night he pretty much said his goal was to win a championship. The closest he normally comes to a "let down" is something like the UMass game where he is trying to save the QB from taking a pounding which is logical. But at least if he sees that we are down he rips their ass at halftime and then starts running the QB to win the game. Which is what happened.

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    I agree Shotgun. What we need to remember is that they played as well as they did last night after losing to both Auburn and GA. They know that the remaining games are games we always said we could win.

    They will be fine. They know what they must do, and if we think we want them to win, we mist realize how badly they want to prove what they are made out of.

    Winners find a way to win.

    Our job here is to support our team.

    Go dogs. You can do this and we believe you can do it, too.

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