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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1 View Post
    Dan would’ve still been conservative in big games and choke them away.
    The 98',99', and 2000 teams would have won 6 games max in the SEC west Dan's teams competed in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    The 98',99', and 2000 teams would have won 6 games max in the SEC west Dan's teams competed in.
    I think Jackie could?ve managed at least 3 SEC wins a year, plus the 4 cupcakes Mullins played. That?s at leaat 7 wins right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    The 98',99', and 2000 teams would have won 6 games max in the SEC west Dan's teams competed in.
    This.

    Dan's SEC and especially SEC West were as strong as any division has been... ever.

    Jackie won while LSU & Bama were WAY down from what they've been the last 10 years, and while Auburn had some dips.

    The East was the bear back then and Jackie avoided playing even 1 of UF, UGA, and UT in many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofozarka View Post
    This.

    Dan's SEC and especially SEC West were as strong as any division has been... ever.

    Jackie won while LSU & Bama were WAY down from what they've been the last 10 years, and while Auburn had some dips.

    The East was the bear back then and Jackie avoided playing even 1 of UF, UGA, and UT in many years.
    Dan won 6 games because he loaded up with 4 La tech’s, trashy UK, and beat Ark/OM, or aTm. Not that hard. JWS played a tougher NC schedule. I’ll give Dan credit, he was a good developer, but if he was half as good as he thought he was, we’d of won 2 Titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1 View Post
    Dan won 6 games because he loaded up with 4 La tech’s, trashy UK, and beat Ark/OM, or aTm. Not that hard. JWS played a tougher NC schedule. I’ll give Dan credit, he was a good developer, but if he was half as good as he thought he was, we’d of won 2 Titles.
    As opposed to Jackie? First of all we always play UK no matter what. This wasn't a scheduling tactic by Mullen. Also, Jackie lost to UK in the 98 SECW Champ season.

    Next here is a list of all non conference opponents from 1992-2000

    1992
    Texas
    Memphis
    Ark St

    1993
    Tulane
    Ark St
    Mem

    1994
    Mem
    Ark St.
    Tulane

    1995
    Baylor
    NE Louisiana
    Memphis

    1996
    La Tech
    Memphis
    NE Lousiana

    1997
    Memphis
    NE Louisiana
    UCF

    1998
    Memphis
    E Tenn St.
    Ok St

    1999
    Ok St
    MTSU
    Memphis

    2000
    BYU
    Memphis
    MTSU

    So in his first nine years Jackie played a total 3 power 5 teams:

    1992 Texas 6-5
    1995 Baylor 7-4
    1998 Ok St. 5-6 (Beat State SECW Champs)
    1999 Ok St. 5-6

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    As opposed to Jackie? First of all we always play UK no matter what. This wasn't a scheduling tactic by Mullen. Also, Jackie lost to UK in the 98 SECW Champ season.

    Next here is a list of all non conference opponents from 1992-2000

    1992
    Texas
    Memphis
    Ark St

    1993
    Tulane
    Ark St
    Mem

    1994
    Mem
    Ark St.
    Tulane

    1995
    Baylor
    NE Louisiana
    Memphis

    1996
    La Tech
    Memphis
    NE Lousiana

    1997
    Memphis
    NE Louisiana
    UCF

    1998
    Memphis
    E Tenn St.
    Ok St

    1999
    Ok St
    MTSU
    Memphis

    2000
    BYU
    Memphis
    MTSU

    So in his first nine years Jackie played a total 3 power 5 teams:

    1992 Texas 6-5
    1995 Baylor 7-4
    1998 Ok St. 5-6 (Beat State SECW Champs)
    1999 Ok St. 5-6
    Notice that Jackie only got 3 non-conference to Mullen's 4 gimmie wins.

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    Yeah and notice all the cupcakes, I'm sure he would have scheduled a 4th if it were allowed

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    Yeah and notice all the cupcakes, I'm sure he would have scheduled a 4th if it were allowed
    those teams werent cupcakes when Jackie took over and were on our level in both money and facilities
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    As opposed to Jackie? First of all we always play UK no matter what. This wasn't a scheduling tactic by Mullen. Also, Jackie lost to UK in the 98 SECW Champ season.

    Next here is a list of all non conference opponents from 1992-2000

    1992
    Texas
    Memphis
    Ark St

    1993
    Tulane
    Ark St
    Mem

    1994
    Mem
    Ark St.
    Tulane

    1995
    Baylor
    NE Louisiana
    Memphis

    1996
    La Tech
    Memphis
    NE Lousiana

    1997
    Memphis
    NE Louisiana
    UCF

    1998
    Memphis
    E Tenn St.
    Ok St

    1999
    Ok St
    MTSU
    Memphis

    2000
    BYU
    Memphis
    MTSU

    So in his first nine years Jackie played a total 3 power 5 teams:

    1992 Texas 6-5
    1995 Baylor 7-4
    1998 Ok St. 5-6 (Beat State SECW Champs)
    1999 Ok St. 5-6
    I wish you’d point to anywhere in my posts and show me where I blamed Mullen for playing UK. You won’t find anything. You said JWS wouldn’t win more than 6 games now, and I said JWS would win 7 games at least once. That?s all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofozarka View Post
    Jackie won while LSU & Bama were WAY down from what they've been the last 10 years, and while Auburn had some dips.

    The East was the bear back then and Jackie avoided playing even 1 of UF, UGA, and UT in many years.
    Dan was 2-16 vs Bama and LSU...Jackie had a couple more overall. But it still comes down to games vs the rest of the SEC when judging them. Games vs Bama and LSU have never been the way to judge our program
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