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Chipper was one of the smartest hitters to ever play. Prolly the smartest of his time...maybe second to bonds. Loved watching him play.
However, as fun as he was to watch on the diamond he's equally as cringeworthy on his hunting show he does nowadays.
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
Chipper was one of the smartest hitters to ever play. Prolly the smartest of his time...maybe second to bonds. Loved watching him play.
However, as fun as he was to watch on the diamond he's equally as cringeworthy on his hunting show he does nowadays.
Have to agree. One of my favorite players of all time. Watched his show a couple of times and you're right cringeworthy is the best way to describe it.
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
Chipper was one of the smartest hitters to ever play. Prolly the smartest of his time...maybe second to bonds. Loved watching him play.
However, as fun as he was to watch on the diamond he's equally as cringeworthy on his hunting show he does nowadays.
Don't forget about his defense.
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
Don't forget about his defense.
Other than Brooks Robinson, Chipper was the best I ever saw at charging slow rollers and bunts and making that off balance throw for the out. He had a dang strong arm too, especially when he was younger. Chipper would boot a routine grounder every now and then. Watching the Braves hasn't been the same since Larry Wayne retired.
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Also, a fun discussion:
Recently I've seen videos of Palmeiro trying to make a comeback. I think he's serious- though I doubt he makes it back (think he's 55.)
Do you think he's trying to make a comeback because he sincerely thinks he can play at an MLB level?
Or do you think he's just trying to make a comeback in order to reset his HOF clock and hopefully let the substance issue awareness get further and further from our perception of him?
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Originally Posted by
louisvilledawg
Also, a fun discussion:
Recently I've seen videos of Palmeiro trying to make a comeback. I think he's serious- though I doubt he makes it back (think he's 55.)
Do you think he's trying to make a comeback because he sincerely thinks he can play at an MLB level?
Or do you think he's just trying to make a comeback in order to reset his HOF clock and hopefully let the substance issue awareness get further and further from our perception of him?
I read about that too. I honestly think he's trying to reset the clock. Without the substance issue he would already be in. Had such a sweet swing. It's a shame.
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
Chipper was one of the smartest hitters to ever play. Prolly the smartest of his time...maybe second to bonds. Loved watching him play.
However, as fun as he was to watch on the diamond he's equally as cringeworthy on his hunting show he does nowadays.
Speaking of Bonds, i heard somewhere if you were to take all of Bonds' homeruns and turn them into Ks, he would still have fewer strikeouts than Alex Rodriguez. Just a fun fact for you. Dude was one of the best hitters of all time.
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Originally Posted by
louisvilledawg
Speaking of Bonds, i heard somewhere if you were to take all of Bonds' homeruns and turn them into Ks, he would still have fewer strikeouts than Alex Rodriguez. Just a fun fact for you. Dude was one of the best hitters of all time.
He really was one of the greatest hitters ever. He never needed to cheat. His flaw was being mentally and socially week. If he could have overcome those insecurities and just played the game he would be revered with mantle and mays.
I was a bonds fan until he went all mutant....and made the comment that he was better than ted Williams because he had hit more homers, without regard for the fact that teddy ballgame missed years of his prime fighting for our country.
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
He really was one of the greatest hitters ever. He never needed to cheat. His flaw was being mentally and socially week. If he could have overcome those insecurities and just played the game he would be revered with mantle and mays.
I was a bonds fan until he went all mutant....and made the comment that he was better than ted Williams because he had hit more homers, without regard for the fact that teddy ballgame missed years of his prime fighting for our country.
Great post! I agree with everything you said. Bonds was a tremendous all around baseball player, one of the best ever, and then he blew it. Williams missed almost 5 years due to military service. No telling what numbers he wouldve finished with.
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
He really was one of the greatest hitters ever. He never needed to cheat. His flaw was being mentally and socially weak. If he could have overcome those insecurities and just played the game he would be revered with mantle and mays.
I was a bonds fan until he went all mutant....and made the comment that he was better than ted Williams because he had hit more homers, without regard for the fact that teddy ballgame missed years of his prime fighting for our country.
That was definitely his downfall. He was the best all around player in the game but couldn't stand McGwire and Sosa getting all of the attention. I do wonder how much the roids helped his batting average. He had a great eye but I imagine increasing his swing speed probably helped get to some pitches he might not have before he went HULK. The guy still hardly struck out while hitting like that. He had a couple of the best seasons in baseball history. If he had a little more help, he would have had several rings.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
That was definitely his downfall. He was the best all around player in the game but couldn't stand McGwire and Sosa getting all of the attention. I do wonder how much the roids helped his batting average. He had a great eye but I imagine increasing his swing speed probably helped get to some pitches he might not have before he went HULK. The guy still hardly struck out while hitting like that. He had a couple of the best seasons in baseball history. If he had a little more help, he would have had several rings.
His swing was pretty awesome from day 1. I don't think the roids helped him there but definitely helped in the power department. Bonds did an interview about his swing with rick sutcliffe one time and it was amazing listening to him describe how he focused on one spot and when he got a pitch there he just didn't miss it.
In today's game the only guy that even remotely has the hands and a similar swing to bonds is Robinson cano. They both have/had the ability to keep their hands inside a ball that was thrown right off their hip and barrel it up. I love watching cano hit.
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Originally Posted by
shoeless joe
His swing was pretty awesome from day 1. I don't think the roids helped him there but definitely helped in the power department. Bonds did an interview about his swing with rick sutcliffe one time and it was amazing listening to him describe how he focused on one spot and when he got a pitch there he just didn't miss it.
In today's game the only guy that even remotely has the hands and a similar swing to bonds is Robinson cano. They both have/had the ability to keep their hands inside a ball that was thrown right off their hip and barrel it up. I love watching cano hit.
Great point. Most mere mortals when they try to get to that pitch either breaks their bat or if they get the barrell to it they pull it foul. Cano has great hands just like Bonds did. Another one that could get that pitch and hammer it was Edgar Martinez. He hit one in an All Star game at Fenway on a 97mph fastball way in off the plate. Pulled his hands in and just hammered it. I saw him do that numerous times. Dude was a great hitter, with bad knees and back, and couldn't play defense. But he could pure rake.
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