Want To Know How Much Expectations Have Been Raised at MSU?

[Liverpooldawg]

THIS MAN GETS IT! Thank you!

You.need to take that post to heart. . His post is by far the best one I have read on here in a long time.

[Todd4State]

You.need to take that post to heart. . His post is by far the best one I have read on here in a long time.

It said a lot of the things I have been saying. You told me it would take 20 years.

[Liverpooldawg]

It said a lot of the things I have been saying. You told me it would take 20 years.

It also directly refutes much of you stuff. I thought it was a great post. Slow and steady is the only real way.

[Todd4State]

It also directly refutes much of you stuff. I thought it was a great post. Slow and steady is the only real way.

Like what?

[Liverpooldawg]

Like what?

You are all publicly all over Mullen dude, you never quite call for his head, but we all get your drift. If that's not what you mean then maybe tone it down a bit. The essence of that was stay the course and slowly build. Unless you want to do a Bucky, it's the only way. I'd like to be ahead of where we are sure, but I'm happy with the course we are on overall. I see my part in it as being to PUBLICLY stand behind what we are doing. It doesn't get much more public than an internet message board. Good vibes breed good vibes. If I have gripes, I keep them close at hand. Just my two cents.

[Todd4State]

You are all publicly all over Mullen dude, you never quite call for his head, but we all get your drift. If that's not what you mean then maybe tone it down a bit. The essence of that was stay the course and slowly build. Unless you want to do a Bucky, it's the only way. I'd like to be ahead of where we are sure, but I'm happy with the course we are on overall. I see my part in it as being to PUBLICLY stand behind what we are doing. It doesn't get much more public than an internet message board. Good vibes breed good vibes. If I have gripes, I keep them close at hand. Just my two cents.

If I think Dan should be fired I will say that I think Dan should be fired. Just like I think Hevesy should have been fired in the past. Have I had complaints about Dan? Absolutely. Has Dan responded to and fixed most of those complaints? Yes. And the one thing that he hasn't done- get rid of Hevesy- he has been rumored to have at least had a come to Jesus talk with him.

The way I see things a coach is allowed to make mistakes but they are also given an opportunity to fix them. If he doesn't do that then that may constitute firing depending on the situation. To Dan's credit- which I have given him MULTIPLE times- Dan has changed everything I wanted except for Hevesy. Most of the things I wanted changed were very simple things that many fans wanted changed and have helped us get to the position we are now and poised to take the next step. And if Hevesy improved his recruiting and his unit plays better then that's fine too.

Dan has come a looonnggg way since the end of 2015 and then losing to South Alabama. New DC, better recruiting, not playing upperclassmen as much, and improved special teams play are all things that many have clamored for and are controllable things that Dan has changed since the South Alabama game- and are all things that will help put us over the top once our better WR prospects get here next year. And it didn't take 20 years to do it.

And while no I don't think I had anything personally to do with Dan's changes I think it's pretty awesome that someone who does matter with such decisions actually agreed with me to help with the necessary changes. Blind loyalty like yours would have probably led to more South Alabama losses and guys like Damien Williams starting at QB for us.

[Liverpooldawg]

If I think Dan should be fired I will say that I think Dan should be fired. Just like I think Hevesy should have been fired in the past. Have I had complaints about Dan? Absolutely. Has Dan responded to and fixed most of those complaints? Yes. And the one thing that he hasn't done- get rid of Hevesy- he has been rumored to have at least had a come to Jesus talk with him.

The way I see things a coach is allowed to make mistakes but they are also given an opportunity to fix them. If he doesn't do that then that may constitute firing depending on the situation. To Dan's credit- which I have given him MULTIPLE times- Dan has changed everything I wanted except for Hevesy. Most of the things I wanted changed were very simple things that many fans wanted changed and have helped us get to the position we are now and poised to take the next step. And if Hevesy improved his recruiting and his unit plays better then that's fine too.

Dan has come a looonnggg way since the end of 2015 and then losing to South Alabama. New DC, better recruiting, not playing upperclassmen as much, and improved special teams play are all things that many have clamored for and are controllable things that Dan has changed since the South Alabama game- and are all things that will help put us over the top once our better WR prospects get here next year. And it didn't take 20 years to do it.

And while no I don't think I had anything personally to do with Dan's changes I think it's pretty awesome that someone who does matter with such decisions actually agreed with me to help with the necessary changes. Blind loyalty like yours would have probably led to more South Alabama losses and guys like Damien Williams starting at QB for us.

As I said..