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    Very insightful Malik Newman article from KUsports.com

    Malik seems to be maturing, just sucks it isn't happening at State. (Queue the Haters)

    http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/m...-malik-newman/l;;ll.l]

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    I guess I am a hater bc I would love nothing more than bouncing Kansas and Baylor on the way to the final 4 next season.

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    I don't suppose it would be reasonable to expect any admittance that they were blaming the wrong people when they left us, but without that, I'm still not convinced either Malik or Horatio really get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Harbor View Post
    Malik seems to be maturing, just sucks it isn't happening at State. (Queue the Haters)

    http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/m...-malik-newman/l;;ll.l]
    I'm happy for him. Some kids mature faster, but you can't be too severe on a kid in his first year out of high school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Harbor View Post
    Malik seems to be maturing, just sucks it isn't happening at State. (Queue the Haters)

    http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/m...-malik-newman/l;;ll.l]
    When he was here neither he nor his father had to listen to Howland because they always had the option of going somewhere else. When he transferred to Kansas it became a "make or break" so he had to do what Self wanted to get playing time. If he had transferred from Kansas he risked being labeled a problem child that couldn't make it in college or the NBA. If he had stayed here and done what Howland wanted him to do I believe he'd have reached the same level of maturity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstatelp1 View Post
    When he was here neither he nor his father had to listen to Howland because they always had the option of going somewhere else. When he transferred to Kansas it became a "make or break" so he had to do what Self wanted to get playing time. If he had transferred from Kansas he risked being labeled a problem child that couldn't make it in college or the NBA. If he had stayed here and done what Howland wanted him to do I believe he'd have reached the same level of maturity.
    He also would have had to sit out another year and probably at a lower school. I guess they figured it wasn't worth transferring and sitting out at Mid Tenn St than just doing what Self wanted him to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstatelp1 View Post
    When he was here neither he nor his father had to listen to Howland because they always had the option of going somewhere else. When he transferred to Kansas it became a "make or break" so he had to do what Self wanted to get playing time. If he had transferred from Kansas he risked being labeled a problem child that couldn't make it in college or the NBA. If he had stayed here and done what Howland wanted him to do I believe he'd have reached the same level of maturity.
    Really good point. Even Daddy had to stop being the helicopter dad when the only option is the Baltics with the Balls.

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    Great article, Malik had to face growing up and getting 500+ Miles away from his helicopter father didn’t hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I guess I am a hater bc I would love nothing more than bouncing Kansas and Baylor on the way to the final 4 next season.
    Baylor is losing waaaayyy to much to be a tournament team next year....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezsoil View Post
    Baylor is losing waaaayyy to much to be a tournament team next year....
    Them sucking would be even better haha

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    Great article. My favorite part was that Malik thought that he had a good game if his shots went in, but he had to learn that you could have a good game via defense, rebounding, and creating even when the shots aren't falling. That's huge in the college game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Harbor View Post
    Malik seems to be maturing, just sucks it isn't happening at State. (Queue the Haters)

    http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/m...-malik-newman/l;;ll.l]
    Sounds more like Horatio is maturing, or just wising up and acknowledging this is his kid's last chance so maybe daddy should get out of the way. Malik was never the problem, Horatio was.

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    Newman wouldn't be a starter for us. He'd sub in with Carter and Holman off the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Newman wouldn't be a starter for us. He'd sub in with Carter and Holman off the bench.
    No need to say that. Nobody believes that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg View Post
    No need to say that. Nobody believes that.
    I believe dat, Newman ain't tough don't like to get durty, he soft, use hand lotion an shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg View Post
    No need to say that. Nobody believes that.
    IDK... I will take peters and nick over Malik

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg View Post
    No need to say that. Nobody believes that.
    It's the truth. Who you benching for Newman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    IDK... I will take peters and nick over Malik
    I think Newman's 40% 3 point shooting would have justified starting him over early season Peters given our shooting slump through the first half of the season. However, it's also valid to assume whatever caused that collective drought would likely also have affected Newman as well, in which case I also would take Nick and Peters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg View Post
    No need to say that. Nobody believes that.
    I believe. He would be 6th man AT BEST

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg View Post
    No need to say that. Nobody believes that.
    I'm not sure either. He'd definitely get a lot, maybe even equal minutes to Q, Nick, and Peters, which would slightly decrease their overall minutes and decrease Carter's.

    He's a slightly better natural scorer with more variety in his offensive game (mid range, better spot up 3 pt shooter) than our top 3 guards, but he's worse in every other aspect of the game by far.

    Our top 3 guards are vastly better on defense, and are head and shoulders more quick, powerful, and tough which makes all 3 better at getting into the lane, getting to the rim whenever they want, and better in transition.

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