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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    I was a staunch republican when I got to DC in 2004. By the end of Bush?s 2nd term I had registered as an independent. I was and still am a big states rights advocate. When the GOP abandoned that platform after taking power in DC, and started pandering to special interests for campaign contributions, I was done. I don?t support either party now, have worked for both, but generally find myself siding more and more with Dems on most issues outside of entitlement spending. The middle needs a voice and the two party system doesn?t provide that.
    When Bush said he would sign a bill to end partial birth abortion? is that what you are referring to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    when did earmarks end?
    2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheltonChoked View Post
    I don't know how you get your internet, but I pay for Bandwidth. I pay for 100 Mbps. I should be able to use that in any legal way I wish. I can pay more for 1 Gbps, or less for 18 Mbps. Before Net Neutrality, I could not watch Netflix after work because it ate up 60% of all backbone traffic, and my ISP at the time would throttle them. That's not my problem. I pay for 100 Mbps. I should be able to stream at that rate all day.

    If all I wanted to do was look at elitedawgs, I could pick a lower plan, I didn't. And I should be able to get those bits, and not pay extra for some over others.
    So now the corporation can charge you for your bandwith which is the actual service you are paying for and they will also get to charge the companies you are accessing for the right to do business with you. This will in turn force the companies to either take an increase in Expenses and cut into their profit or the actual outcome of increasing what you pay. The only thing this does is either 1) take away choices from you in the form of possibly no Netflix if you have Comcast or 2) It cost you more to access Netflix if you have Comcast.

    All regulations aren't bad. I know a lot of people in the banking industry hate all the regulations but if a large percentage of mortgages weren't set up to screw the customer then it wouldn't be necessary.

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    Ban net neutrality ? the internet dies

    Drill in AK? Reindeer die (right before Christmas)

    Travel Ban? you hate muslims

    Repeal Obama care ? people die

    Back out of Paris Accord? the World Dies..

    Build the Wall? you hate Mexicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    So now the corporation can charge you for your bandwith which is the actual service you are paying for and they will also get to charge the companies you are accessing for the right to do business with you. This will in turn force the companies to either take an increase in Expenses and cut into their profit or the actual outcome of increasing what you pay. The only thing this does is either 1) take away choices from you in the form of possibly no Netflix if you have Comcast or 2) It cost you more to access Netflix if you have Comcast.

    All regulations aren't bad. I know a lot of people in the banking industry hate all the regulations but if a large percentage of mortgages weren't set up to screw the customer then it wouldn't be necessary.
    You are going to pay for more bandwidth regardless. Everybody is using more bandwidth, so somebody is going to have to pay to install more bandwidth or some people are going to have to pay more to avoid being throttled and the ones that don't will get throttled or just have a right to less bandwidth to begin with.

    Net Neutrality might not be bad, but I don't think it's going to suddenly create a wasteland like people are freaking out about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    Ban net neutrality ? the internet dies

    Drill in AK? Reindeer die (right before Christmas)

    Travel Ban? you hate muslims

    Repeal Obama care ? people die

    Back out of Paris Accord? the World Dies..

    Build the Wall? you hate Mexicans.
    Build the wall if you hate being fiscally responsible. Want to talk about bankrupting the country. Pres 45 isn't going to get Mexico to build the wall for us. We can either actually fund our education system like a world power should or build a wall that will be roughly 20% effective. The Wall is the dumbest thing I have seen in a while. I am sure there are some great construction companies that would love to fleece the American people out of billions of dollars to build some wall with probably illegals from Mexico, maybe that is what 45 is referring to when he says Mexico will build it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    Since you worked up there I?d like your opinion on a theory of mine. Here it goes: The elimination of earmarks has killed the incentive for politicians to work together. In the old days, earmarks and support for pet projects in sub committees was how the parties bargained with each other. I?ll swap you this for that. With nothing to trade, the incentive to cooperate is eliminated.

    Thoughts?
    Earmarks were big for spending bills. And maybe the lack of that back and forth has also hurt cooperation on non-spending bills. But the bigger problem is that a lot of the "grease" that amde everything work before was the ability to provide benefits now and put the burdens off on future tax payers. The road doesn't look long enough for agreeing to kick the can to continue to work like it used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    You are going to pay for more bandwidth regardless. Everybody is using more bandwidth, so somebody is going to have to pay to install more bandwidth or some people are going to have to pay more to avoid being throttled and the ones that don't will get throttled or just have a right to less bandwidth to begin with.

    Net Neutrality might not be bad, but I don't think it's going to suddenly create a wasteland like people are freaking out about.
    It will not create a wasteland but it will give the big Telecom corporations the ability to create a Revenue stream that is not currently there. People streaming entertainment at the pace we do now is still relatively new which is why those corporations poured in more than $160 Million dollars into politicians pockets to get the Net Neutrality reversed. The corporations will charge someone and I hate to break it to you but eventually it is the people who get on the internet. You might not care about a few dollars here or there but it will add up for people that use it. I now even just buy my movies on Itunes and stream them instead of buying Blurays.

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    I'd love to know how they are going to affect payment processing businesses, the entire banking industry, and the stockmarket. What if Comcast starts slowing bandwidth to certain brokerage firms. picks mastercard over visa etc etc. you dumfacks too stubburn to think big will be at the sonic where i'm gonna whip your ass and then you realize that your local ISP is charging 5 dollars to make a payment using visa or mastercard but free for discover cards. that sonic slushy will get expensive real quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Build the wall if you hate being fiscally responsible. Want to talk about bankrupting the country. Pres 45 isn't going to get Mexico to build the wall for us. We can either actually fund our education system like a world power should or build a wall that will be roughly 20% effective. The Wall is the dumbest thing I have seen in a while. I am sure there are some great construction companies that would love to fleece the American people out of billions of dollars to build some wall with probably illegals from Mexico, maybe that is what 45 is referring to when he says Mexico will build it.
    that's the stupidest shit I've seen in a long time. congrats

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    Wanting the government regulating the internet is dumb.

    Socialism doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgoneyall View Post
    Wanting the government regulating the internet is dumb.

    Socialism doesn't work.
    You keep using this word, and I'm not convinced you know what it means...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    that's the stupidest shit I've seen in a long time. congrats
    Great counterpoints, just keep Making America Great Again without actually looking at the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    Great counterpoints, just keep Making America Great Again without actually looking at the results.
    check out GDP, manufacturing job creation, consumer confidence, etc...you should educate yourself.

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