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Originally Posted by
louisvilledawg
Somebody get this phuggin guy out of here. Dude is a reb.
Nope not a Reb, just a "will believe it when I see it" kind of guy. No explanation needed.
Last edited by Lord McBuckethead; 07-18-2017 at 02:31 PM.
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400 scholarships over 50 years (FIFTY!)
50 year probation
20 year bowl ban
Removed from SEC
Forced to become a member of the SWAC
Must hire Croom for at least 10 years
Forfeit all wins in program history
$1B fine
No recruiting visits for 20 years
Lifetime ban for Hugh and Bjork
The Grove has to be burned and bulldozed
Cold chicken fingers outlawed in Oxford
This seems like a good start... (**)
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Originally Posted by
PMDawg
400 scholarships over 50 years (FIFTY!)
50 year probation
20 year bowl ban
Removed from SEC
Forced to become a member of the SWAC
Must hire Croom for at least 10 years
Forfeit all wins in program history
$1B fine
No recruiting visits for 20 years
Lifetime ban for Hugh and Bjork
The Grove has to be burned and bulldozed
Cold chicken fingers outlawed in Oxford
This seems like a good start... (**)
Someone's been reading the matrix.....
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
~35-40 scholarships over 4-5 years.
4-5 years probation.
3 year bowl ban.
Voided wins from 2013-2016.
Bowl revenue paid back from 2013-2016.
No incoming bowl revenue from 2016-2019.
~5 year show cause for Freeze.
Multiple assistants with show causes.
Possible show cause for Bjork, if they don't preemptively fire him.
And a muddy, empty grove until 2024.
If it's over 30 and 4 or more
Muddy empty grove for at LEAST 10 years
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
I am going with the NCAA will accept penalties already put forth by UM. Everyone goes about their business moving forward. I will not believe they will suffer, until it actually happens.
LOL You may be correct on your first part, but there will be additional penalties added on. Ole Miss and ULL's NCAA violation history's are not even in the same universe.
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Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
If it's over 30 and 4 or more
Muddy empty grove for at LEAST 10 years
I wonder if they can cut and sell the timber, disc the grove up, and plant soybeans to supplement their football program budget during these upcoming drought years?
Last edited by yjnkdawg; 07-19-2017 at 08:31 AM.
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I still like the idea (apologies, can't remember who originally posted it) of giving the OM fanbase a choice: 1.) 40 over 4, 3 year bowl ban, Freeze and Bjork gone; or 2.) NCAA accepts the self-imposed penalties, but the Grove is shut down for five years.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
4 year probation.
30 schollies.
2 year bowl ban
1 year suspension for Freeze
Millions in lost revenue
Vacated wins
Multiple show causes
And we will still say not enough.
This is the correct answer. However, PMDawg's post is certainly a good start.
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
I am going with the NCAA will **** them hard.
There I fixed it for you.
There you go.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
4 year probation.
30 schollies.
2 year bowl ban
1 year suspension for Freeze
Millions in lost revenue
Vacated wins
Multiple show causes
And we will still say not enough.
What I will say is that the NCAA did not follow their own matrix and that OM's continuation of cheating paid off. The picked up another out of state 5 star LT after being under investigation.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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Originally Posted by
PMDawg
400 scholarships over 50 years (FIFTY!)
50 year probation
20 year bowl ban
Removed from SEC
Forced to become a member of the SWAC
Must hire Croom for at least 10 years
Forfeit all wins in program history
$1B fine
No recruiting visits for 20 years
Lifetime ban for Hugh and Bjork
The Grove has to be burned and bulldozed
Cold chicken fingers outlawed in Oxford
This seems like a good start... (**)
You are assuming the SWAC would take them.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
You are assuming the SWAC would take them.
Oh the SWAC would take them. Trust me there are plenty of HBCUs that would get up for a game against the confederate flag toting Rebels who want to see "south rise again". There is a reason why OM has not followed our lead of playing JSU and Alcorn.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
What I will say is that the NCAA did not follow their own matrix and that OM's continuation of cheating paid off. The picked up another out of state 5 star LT after being under investigation.
That's my point. Expectations need to be tempered a bit. They will get hammered and their program set back 5 years, but the matrix will not be followed verbatim. They aren't getting 80 schollies and a 10 year bowl ban.
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30 scholarships would not be enough. With USC getting 30 the punishment would not fit the crime. 40-50 scholarships would be justice imo and not one under 40. Once these sort of numbers start coming into play a two year death penalty should at least be discussed by the decision makers.
Mudholing about to commence.
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I don't see how OM skirts the LOIC charge. They had/have 3 sports programs charged with infractions + Academic Fraud and this shit spans multiple years, multiple coaches, multiple AD's. Now add in just the stuff under Freeze, and they admittedly owned up to cheating while under investigation and that's solid proof that the Institution Lacked Control of their entire athletic department. Freeze had no system in place to monitor his own staff, active players, or the very recruiting process he put in place. So he gets slapped for FTM.
LOIC on University w/Bjork getting canned
32-36 over 4yr scholly reductions
5 yrs probation
2 yr bowl ban
50% reduction in recruiting contact and visits allowed
Show cause and FTM on Freeze
Show cause on 3-4 other coaches from Nutt's staff and Freeze's staff
Over a dozen "Boosters" disassociated
Relinquish SEC profit sharing revenue for 2 years
Completely re-vamp that clown show of a Compliance Department
Last edited by LockeDawg; 07-19-2017 at 01:55 PM.
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I thought Ole Miss would avoid LOIC until I read the second paragraph of their response, where they admitted that the cheating continued during the course of the investigation. When a school admits to that, they are screwed.
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Senior Member
Originally Posted by
Dolphus Raymond
I thought Ole Miss would avoid LOIC until I read the second paragraph of their response, where they admitted that the cheating continued during the course of the investigation. When a school admits to that, they are screwed.
I pegged them with LOIC when I saw 3 (THREE) different sports charged, and Academic Fraud. Not one soul was in charge up there, and they had no system in place to monitor their staff while the NCAA was all up in their shit for years on end.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
That's my point. Expectations need to be tempered a bit. They will get hammered and their program set back 5 years, but the matrix will not be followed verbatim. They aren't getting 80 schollies and a 10 year bowl ban.
I definitely could be talked into tempering hammer expectations if... TCUN had not been caught cheating while the investigation was ongoing and if... TCUN had not run rough-shod over keeping everything private (but instead sic'd the hounds on SA 39 & 40, and we all know they did). The ncaa will frown big time on these two caveats and viola' the new matrix is used to scare many a team going forward.
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Keeping in mind the issues with Freeze go back to the Oher issue and the Powe issue (when the Waynesboro testing center was set up by Saunders and Freeze) ...and that the whole college world is watching....I am betting at least 40 scholarships over 4 , three year bowl ban, 5 year probation , 10 year show cause for Freeze, Saunders and Fararr ...5 years show cause for Kiffin and Vaughn... and regardless of what the penalties are ...they won't quit cheating.
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