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Hey Paaawwl and LSU fans.....suck on this.....
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I'm going to let you guys in on a secret. There are always rumors about how the SEC rigs games for Bama or LSU because they are the favorite. Fact is there is a conspiracy to help these teams win but it's not the SEC or the NCAA, no its Wal-Mart. If either of those two teams tank, do you realize the t-shirt revenue they would lose? It's staggering.
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Paul hasn't, doesn't and won't give a shit about anything but saying what pushes the ratings. That means licking LSU's ass in baseball and paying MSU dust. This will be the only week he talks baseball and then it'll be right back to sucking off Bama in football.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Hey Paaawwl and LSU fans.....suck on this.....
That's what happens when you have to count actual attendance. Instead of "paid attendance".
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Variables:
Population Density
Size of Enrollment/Alumni
Lack of success in other Sports
Sum of Ancillary Distractions (shit to do + other sports stuff)
Success (ie: national championships, conference championships, winning %, etc)
et al......
All being said, I'd say MSU baseball is a pretty big deal... it's not KY B-ball, Bammer football... and some others.... but it's kinda a "passionate" deal...
Where's Boom when we need the numbers run?
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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passion (noun) : an intense desire or enthusiasm for something
Not sure how titles are proof of being THE most passionate supporters.
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Paul can go 17 himself with a set of tweezers.
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Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Say what?? You don't think our fans are very bit as passionate about baseball as theirs? We own 18 of the top 25 all-time on-campus attendance records in the NCAA. We have been passionate about baseball long before LSU got excited about it when they started winning under Skip.
You are right. We were passionate about baseball long before LSU. But, again, its not 1985 anymore and they have long since passed us in overall fan support. Alex Box is a huge stadium that is packed to the max every Fri and Sat night on SEC weekend series. We couldn't even fill up our grandstand in 2016 when we were playing Arkansas for a f-ing SEC championship. Yea, we have a lot of large crowds but those are just about all during postseason play or SBW. We have never been able to truly fill up DNF for more than 3-4 games per season in the past 20 years.
The biggest part of that is that LSU just has more fans in general. Are those fans actually more "passionate" than ours? I have no idea. But unfortunately, attendence and how well the fans travel is pretty much the only way to measure it.
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Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
You are right. We were passionate about baseball long before LSU. But, again, its not 1985 anymore and they have long since passed us in overall fan support. Alex Box is a huge stadium that is packed to the max every Fri and Sat night on SEC weekend series. We couldn't even fill up our grandstand in 2016 when we were playing Arkansas for a f-ing SEC championship. Yea, we have a lot of large crowds but those are just about all during postseason play or SBW. We have never been able to truly fill up DNF for more than 3-4 games per season in the past 20 years.
The biggest part of that is that LSU just has more fans in general. Are those fans actually more "passionate" than ours? I have no idea. But unfortunately, attendence and how well the fans travel is pretty much the only way to measure it.
I think that's more LSU perception than reality. And the perception that they want to create.
What you are talking about is why MSU wants to centralize the crowd in the grandstand. Our issue is we have a lot of fans in the outfield and the bleachers and we spread our fans out making it look like fewer fans are there.
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Originally Posted by
HSVDawg
You are right. We were passionate about baseball long before LSU. But, again, its not 1985 anymore and they have long since passed us in overall fan support. Alex Box is a huge stadium that is packed to the max every Fri and Sat night on SEC weekend series. We couldn't even fill up our grandstand in 2016 when we were playing Arkansas for a f-ing SEC championship. Yea, we have a lot of large crowds but those are just about all during postseason play or SBW. We have never been able to truly fill up DNF for more than 3-4 games per season in the past 20 years.
The biggest part of that is that LSU just has more fans in general. Are those fans actually more "passionate" than ours? I have no idea. But unfortunately, attendence and how well the fans travel is pretty much the only way to measure it.
So attendance and traveling fans you say? So scroll up and see the tweet where we brought more fans to the CWS finals in 2013 than lsu this year. Or where we have 18 of the 25 largest on campus crowds in college baseball history, and the top 14 all belong to us. I fail to see how focusing on crowds hurts our argument. Lsu averages ~2K more than we do, sure, but they have a lot more students and are located in way larger metro area.
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Tommy Charles , Bham talk show host whipped Paul's ass once. then wrote a book.
Charles, Tommy (1996) I Hate Paul Finebaum: 303 Reasons Why You Should, Too. Birmingham: Crane Hill. ISBN 157587041X
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
So attendance and traveling fans you say? So scroll up and see the tweet where we brought more fans to the CWS finals in 2013 than lsu this year. Or where we have 18 of the 25 largest on campus crowds in college baseball history, and the top 14 all belong to us. I fail to see how focusing on crowds hurts our argument. Lsu averages ~2K more than we do, sure, but they have a lot more students and are located in way larger metro area.
To put it another way...LSU's average attendance is 36% of their enrollment. Miss. State's average attendance is 41% of our enrollment. And we live in a state where there are 2 P5 & 2 SEC teams, whereas LSU is the only of both.
LSU averaged 2655 more per game than we did. Wouldn't surprise me if it was actually less, given how many we get in the LFL.
There is no way LSU is more passionate about their baseball team than we are. They are passionate about winning championships, and baseball has brought them plenty of that. But if the roles were reversed, and we were the ones with those championships, and they not, I doubt they'd average as much as we do now.
PF is a moron.
Last edited by blacklistedbully; 06-27-2017 at 05:10 PM.
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Furthermore, Oktibbeha County has a population of just over 47,000. East Baton Rouge Parish, roughly the same size, has a population of over 440,000. The fact that LSU averages less than 3,000 more per game than we do with that big of an advantage in local population is a testament to our passion...not theirs.
Last edited by blacklistedbully; 06-27-2017 at 05:20 PM.
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Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Furthermore, Oktibbeha County has a population of just over 47,000. East Baton Rouge Parish, roughly the same size, has a population of over 440,000. The fact that LSU averages less than 3,000 more per game than we do with that big of an advantage in local population is a testament to our passion...not theirs.
Very well put
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
So attendance and traveling fans you say? So scroll up and see the tweet where we brought more fans to the CWS finals in 2013 than lsu this year. Or where we have 18 of the 25 largest on campus crowds in college baseball history, and the top 14 all belong to us. I fail to see how focusing on crowds hurts our argument. Lsu averages ~2K more than we do, sure, but they have a lot more students and are located in way larger metro area.
LSU has won 7 or 8 national titles in baseball in the past 25 years, plus 2 NC's in football and numerous others in smaller sports. You're comparing their fans attendence in their 8th or 9th trip to the CWS finals to our fans attendence in our very first appearance in any national title game, ever. There are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of LSU fans that probably said "meh, been there done that" after the 3rd or 4th title win under Bertman in the 90's. I'd never in a million years expect their fans to outnumber ours under those circumstances. The points above are valid about percentage of enrollment / population that make up our attendence, but this is a bogus comparison. It's similar to Clemson vs. Alabama in the NC game the past 2 years where Clemson fans outnumbered Alabama fans 60/40 or so each time. Do you really think Clemson football has more fans or more passionate fans than Alabama?
Last edited by HSVDawg; 06-27-2017 at 06:04 PM.
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Here's a timeline of Paul Finebaum's opinions
1999- Bammers hated him because he was a Tennessee grad and loved Auburn.
Ole Miss hated him because he was dogging their program, then talked about the first time Memphis State beat Ole Miss in 1966.
He's an entertainer. Nothing more.
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"The Finbaum passion for Freeze is really unmatched anywhere within the SEC ."
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Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Furthermore, Oktibbeha County has a population of just over 47,000. East Baton Rouge Parish, roughly the same size, has a population of over 440,000. The fact that LSU averages less than 3,000 more per game than we do with that big of an advantage in local population is a testament to our passion...not theirs.
I looked up these statistics as well. Its location does give LSU quite an advantage in terms of population. However, the simple fact remains that Alec Box seats approximately 3,000 more than the Dude. As long as this is the case and they continue to win, they will outdraw us.
Two points I would like to make: 1) It is impossible to quantify passion. 2) Who cares what Finebaum has to say or thinks.
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Hey! We still hold the attendance record!
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Originally Posted by
Mutt the Hoople
1999- Bammers hated him because he was a Tennessee grad and loved Auburn.
Ole Miss hated him because he was dogging their program, then talked about the first time Memphis State beat Ole Miss in 1966.
He's an entertainer. Nothing more.
Finally, somebody here gets it....
+1, Mutt
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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