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    Anyone have the time frame for this? I'd like to see what the avg offensive ranking for each team is over the period also.

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    Won't argue this point at all, even though for the most part Random and I disagree on the job Mullen's done here. We need better recruiting on the offensive line for sure.

    I think we're doing pretty well everywhere else honestly - better than we ever did under Croom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX View Post
    They also had Cam Newton and have an average recruiting ranking in the Top 10...then the talent left and they're 6-10 in the SEC since 2013.
    One of their 3 was last year... shon Coleman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    Agenda again.

    Why don't you do it for every position then.
    DL
    Lbs
    CB
    S
    Wr
    Rb

    I would have to say we are at the bottom in all of them.

    So I guess we might have a hell of a coach who can win more than 70% of his games over 7 years.
    Is Hev your wife or are you his?***

    Kidding of course, but your agenda seems to be pushing that someone else has an agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    One of their 3 was last year... shon Coleman.
    Auburn's lack of NFL OL guys shows you why they have been so inconsistent the last 5-6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption View Post
    Won't argue this point at all, even though for the most part Random and I disagree on the job Mullen's done here. We need better recruiting on the offensive line for sure.

    I think we're doing pretty well everywhere else honestly - better than we ever did under Croom.
    I don't think RP would argue that CDM hasn't done a great job here. He just thinks he's capped out and things are trending the wrong direction right now. I don't think he's necessarily capped out, but I do think it's his fault that we're sliding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Anyone have the time frame for this? I'd like to see what the avg offensive ranking for each team is over the period also.
    Total offense by year:

    2009 - 73rd
    2010 - 49th
    2011 - 73rd
    2012 - 60th
    2013 - 76th
    2014 - 17th
    2015 - 33rd
    2016 - 75th (to-date)

    For reference, under Croom:
    2004 - 118th
    2005 - 114th
    2006 - 97th
    2007 - 97th
    2008 - 116th

    Source: http://www.sports-reference.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Freeze has 2 in the NFL after only 4 years of coaching. Don't forget Cooper
    Paid and bought for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Auburn's lack of NFL OL guys shows you why they have been so inconsistent the last 5-6 years.
    From '09-'14, auburn had 2 olinemen drafted. During that time, auburn won a natty and was a runner up.

    Auburn has had 1 NFL olineman drafted the last 2 years and they haven't been real good.

    Not sure olinemen are the key factor is their success

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuadrupleOption View Post
    Total offense by year:

    2009 - 73rd
    2010 - 49th
    2011 - 73rd
    2012 - 60th
    2013 - 76th
    2014 - 17th
    2015 - 33rd
    2016 - 75th (to-date)

    For reference, under Croom:
    2004 - 118th
    2005 - 114th
    2006 - 97th
    2007 - 97th
    2008 - 116th

    Source: http://www.sports-reference.com
    Thanks. I was gonna go get each team's ranking and stack it against the olinemen drafted rankings to see how it relates to offensive success

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    One of their 3 was last year... shon Coleman.
    Shon Coleman signed in the 2010 class and had cancer that prevented him from playing until 2013....he is an outlier

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    I would look at scoring O and red zone efficiency as opposed to overall offense (both against SEC W only competition). You may can get by between the 20's with an average 0 line, but getting into the end zone inside the 20 is another matter.

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    And even better stat would be.
    How many ALL SEC Olineman at the end of each season have we had over the last 8 years. (1st 2nd or 3rd team)
    I wonder how we rank there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic View Post
    And even better stat would be.
    How many ALL SEC Olineman at the end of each season have we had over the last 8 years. (1st 2nd or 3rd team)
    I wonder how we rank there..
    That would be telling.

    Auburn and State had runs because we had great QBs who helped negate not so great OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic View Post
    And even better stat would be.
    How many ALL SEC Olineman at the end of each season have we had over the last 8 years. (1st 2nd or 3rd team)
    I wonder how we rank there..
    Strictly guessing, but sherrod, Jackson, day, and beckwith
    Last edited by mic; 09-28-2016 at 10:38 AM.

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    eh, same could be said for WR and RB and Safety...

    Last edited by bullygrowl; 09-28-2016 at 10:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    From '09-'14, auburn had 2 olinemen drafted. During that time, auburn won a natty and was a runner up.

    Auburn has had 1 NFL olineman drafted the last 2 years and they haven't been real good.

    Not sure olinemen are the key factor is their success
    Not to mention they have two NFL guards now in kozan and smith now and they will be 7-5 at best, prob 6-6.

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    I posted that a while back about the disparity between D personnel and O personnel in the league. Seeings as how Mullen is an OC I kinda expect it to be more equal than it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Strictly guessing, but sherrod, Jackson, day, and beckwith
    Take Sherrod off the list he was already here..
    So if it's just 3 guys to make 1st 2nd or 3rd team at the end of the season , that's even more pathetic than having 1 NFL guy..

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    Freeze is not a great recruiter nor is he a good coach. He is a good salesman. That's it. Once he gets them, he lets them run the show. They do what they want for 3 or 4 years then when they try to make it in the NFL, they get a huge wake up call. I compare it to the Academy that I went to. I goofed off all through junior high and high school, teachers didnt care, and then when I got to junior college I was lost. I had to take intermediate Algebra before I could even take an Algebra class.

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